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FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 14 @ 3:18 PM ET
FALSE

in no order.. Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, Ovie, H. Sedin are above him...

And even a good argument could be made for Toews, Zetterberg, St. Louis, Perry, and even Iginla or Staal.

Thanks for playing... remove the Homer glasses son!

- JVince117

Ovi had one of the best playmakers in rhe league feeding him an he still sucked.

Stamkos isnt as complete as Giroux.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:19 PM ET
Who would you choose to build your team around Giroux or Kovy?
- Flyfreaky


If I was starting a brand new franchise... and it had to be at the same dollar amount they were at currently....

I think i would still pick Kovy. although it would be a very hard choice..
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 14 @ 3:19 PM ET
you can use whoever you want the point is Giroux is a top 3 player in this league
- baldo14


top 5 but id take stamkos crosby and malkin before giroux
baldo14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.31.2009

Jun 14 @ 3:20 PM ET
FALSE

in no order.. Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, Ovie, H. Sedin are above him...

And even a good argument could be made for Toews, Zetterberg, St. Louis, Perry, and even Iginla or Staal.

Thanks for playing... remove the Homer glasses son!

- JVince117

ill give you Crosby Malkin Stamkos but Giroux would be 4th on this list without question
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:21 PM ET
Ovi had one of the best playmakers in rhe league feeding him an he still sucked.

Stamkos isnt as complete as Giroux.

- FLYERSROCK!


way to only look at last year.... WOW.... Don't need to mention his 4 100+ point seasons and even 2 110+ point seasons...

Whew those 2 76+ seasons were sweet of giroux though!

310 points by Ovie in his first 3 seasons.. and 243 points by Giroux in a 4 year career so far..

SIT DOWN AND TAKE OFF YOUR HOMER GLASSES!!!!!!!!
baldo14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.31.2009

Jun 14 @ 3:23 PM ET
what do you think giroux will make with his next contract? one that is more based on performance
- dmarsden2988

somewhere around 7 million
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:23 PM ET
top 5 but id take stamkos crosby and malkin before giroux
- dmarsden2988


Ovechkin??? 26 years old compared to Giroux at 24 years old...

hello?
baldo14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.31.2009

Jun 14 @ 3:24 PM ET
Ovechkin??? 26 years old compared to Giroux at 24 years old...

hello?

- JVince117

but ovie hasnt done anything in 2 years
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 14 @ 3:25 PM ET
somewhere around 7 million
- baldo14


which is more than kovy (most likely) that is why it is stupid to compare contracts due to age and when contracts are signed, they are really only comparable if they sign the same type of contract (UFA/long term) not based when they are 23, 24 yrs old where they wont be making the money they would in their prime
Vagabond
Location: Quebec City, QC
Joined: 11.09.2011

Jun 14 @ 3:26 PM ET
Well...thats one way to put it, that injuries "ravaged" the Wild.

Not totally accurate. The goalie injury was the longest, but Koivu and others were just what happens through a season.

The Wild a "very good team" though, thats rich! Not really...they just came back to earth after a good start. Anyone that follows advanced stats know thats what happened, not the old injury excuse.

Just look at their early on shooting % Ek!

- vancitydan




...is wasting their time....
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:26 PM ET
but ovie hasnt done anything in 2 years
- baldo14


are you serious right now!? 85 points is nothing now? and 65 without Backstrom for almost the whole entire year..

holy sh!t man...
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 14 @ 3:28 PM ET
Ovechkin??? 26 years old compared to Giroux at 24 years old...

hello?

- JVince117


id take giroux over ovechkin at this point, ovechkin now seems way to selfish and too much of a prima-donna where it seems like he has gotten away from his game and is more caring about his advertisements and media, if he gets back to where he was 2 years ago then ovechkin is a top 3 talent but it seems like since crosby went down with a concussion ovechkin hasnt been himself
baldo14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.31.2009

Jun 14 @ 3:28 PM ET
are you serious right now!? 85 points is nothing now? and 65 without Backstrom for almost the whole entire year..

holy sh!t man...

- JVince117

why does he need Backstom? Giroux does not need anyone
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:30 PM ET
why does he need Backstom? Giroux does not need anyone
- baldo14


Giroux would be just as good without Hartnell, Read, Simmonds, Jagr? or the year before with Carter and Richards...?

I only brought up backstrom because flyersrock said something about him.

Without backstrom Ovie gets keyed on by everyone in the game.. Giroux has a lot of help around him to take heat off of him.
baldo14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.31.2009

Jun 14 @ 3:36 PM ET
Giroux would be just as good without Hartnell, Read, Simmonds, Jagr? or the year before with Carter and Richards...?

I only brought up backstrom because flyersrock said something about him.

Without backstrom Ovie gets keyed on by everyone in the game.. Giroux has a lot of help around him to take heat off of him.

- JVince117

yes he would he was our 3rd line center when Richards and Carter were here and still had 76 points with not nearly as much as ice time as Ovechkin
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jun 14 @ 3:36 PM ET
J-Bo
Redden
Lecavalier
Gomez
Wisnewski

The Useless and overpaid club.

- JVince117

Dont forget Brysgalov.
jtommyt
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Jun 14 @ 3:37 PM ET
Giroux would be just as good without Hartnell, Read, Simmonds, Jagr? or the year before with Carter and Richards...?

I only brought up backstrom because flyersrock said something about him.

Without backstrom Ovie gets keyed on by everyone in the game.. Giroux has a lot of help around him to take heat off of him.

- JVince117



That group is pretty underwhelming actually...

Especiallly compared to Backstrom, Laich, Ward, Brouwer, and Semin
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:38 PM ET
That group is pretty underwhelming actually...

Especiallly compared to Backstrom, Laich, Ward, Brouwer, and Semin

- jtommyt


laich, ward, and brouwer are not overwhelming... Semin had like 1-2 good years.
baldo14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.31.2009

Jun 14 @ 3:38 PM ET
That group is pretty underwhelming actually...

Especiallly compared to Backstrom, Laich, Ward, Brouwer, and Semin

- jtommyt

thank you
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 14 @ 3:40 PM ET
Dont forget Brysgalov.
- vancity787

FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 14 @ 3:44 PM ET
way to only look at last year.... WOW.... Don't need to mention his 4 100+ point seasons and even 2 110+ point seasons...

Whew those 2 76+ seasons were sweet of giroux though!

310 points by Ovie in his first 3 seasons.. and 243 points by Giroux in a 4 year career so far..

SIT DOWN AND TAKE OFF YOUR HOMER GLASSES!!!!!!!!

- JVince117

U mad bro?

Ovi has been subpar past 2 years. Giroux had 76 points 2 years ago playing with NOBODY. He was a 2nd line W, 3rd line C. Idiot.

Giroux is a better player overall, and is 1000x the leader Ovi will ever be.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:46 PM ET
thank you
- baldo14


regardless of any one who is one guys team...

Ovie is clearly better than Giroux in accordance to their first 3 years. You used Giroux's age as why he hasn't produced killer stats..

Well... Crosby, Malkin, Ovie, and Stamkos all had better first 3 years in the NHL then Giroux.

And just to be a d!ck... Giroux only had 20 more points than Vanek even did in his 3 first years in the league.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 14 @ 3:46 PM ET
laich, ward, and brouwer are not overwhelming... Semin had like 1-2 good years.
- JVince117

LOL OK then!

He also forgot Green, Carlson and their Goalies.

Dont make excuses. Giroux has been better than Ovi past 2 years for sure. I dont even have Ovi top 25 this past yer. HARTNELL had a better year than Ovi!
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:48 PM ET
U mad bro?

Ovi has been subpar past 2 years. Giroux had 76 points 2 years ago playing with NOBODY. He was a 2nd line W, 3rd line C. Idiot.

Giroux is a better player overall, and is 1000x the leader Ovi will ever be.

- FLYERSROCK!


Boy i wish the Sabres had subpar players that only put up 85 points a year.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:50 PM ET


oh Scarlett Johanson... ..
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