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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
Agreed, especially considering Parise would only cost cap space.
- BulliesPhan87


Exactly. Plus he's a great two way player. I dont know much about Nash's defensive game to comment on him.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
With Parise being a UFA, you could then use some forward assets to trade for a defenseman if you have to. I also like the fact that Parise is a proven playoff veteran.
- MJL


Definitely. You will have to overpay via trade then swallow his cap hit. I'd much prefer to sign a UFA and then trade for a defenseman as you suggested.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
I still believe it will come down to SJ or NYR.
- stveshdy


For Nash?

I just don't see the flyers doing it. Does he have to agree to the team? Or does he have to submit a list? I don't know how his contract is written.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:01 AM ET
With Parise being a UFA, you could then use some forward assets to trade for a defenseman if you have to. I also like the fact that Parise is a proven playoff veteran.
- MJL

This is also a big factor to me. With Parise, we've seen what he can bring when it counts over the past couple months. Nash is a bit less proven of a commodity, he's a very good player but has almost no playoffs resumé.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:03 AM ET
This is also a big factor to me. With Parise, we've seen what he can bring when it counts over the past couple months. Nash is a bit less proven of a commodity, he's a very good player but has almost no playoffs resumé.
- BulliesPhan87


Parise also has a very good idea what comes along with playing in Philadelphia, so I don't think there would be any surprises there. I don't know how cut throat the Colmbus media/fanbase is, but I'm sure Philly would be a bit different.

Parise can handle the pressure, with Nash it's an unknown.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:04 AM ET
This is also a big factor to me. With Parise, we've seen what he can bring when it counts over the past couple months. Nash is a bit less proven of a commodity, he's a very good player but has almost no playoffs resumé.
- BulliesPhan87


I personally don't want the Flyers to pursue a top Cap hit Winger. I'd rather they allocate those cap resources to the defense. Obviously we only know what's being rumored. But it sure seems like the Flyers are hell bent on doing something. Making some kind of a splash. Like going to the store with the Credit Card to buy something. You don't know what it is, but your not coming home empty handed. I'd rather they make a move if it's the right move. If not bide time with some moves that aren't a big commitment until the right move presents itself.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:08 AM ET
I personally don't want the Flyers to pursue a top Cap hit Winger. I'd rather they allocate those cap resources to the defense. Obviously we only know what's being rumored. But it sure seems like the Flyers are hell bent on doing something. Making some kind of a splash. Like going to the store with the Credit Card to buy something. You don't know what it is, but your not coming home empty handed. I'd rather they make a move if it's the right move. If not bide time with some moves that aren't a big commitment until the right move presents itself.
- MJL


For someone that doesn't believe in unsubstantiated rumors about players personal lives, you sure do buy into unsubstantiated hockey rumors.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 15 @ 11:10 AM ET
For someone that doesn't believe in unsubstantiated rumors about players personal lives, you sure do buy into unsubstantiated hockey rumors.
- bradleyc4



There certainly is a difference between speculating on a hockey related rumor, and blatant character assassination.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:12 AM ET
I personally don't want the Flyers to pursue a top Cap hit Winger. I'd rather they allocate those cap resources to the defense. Obviously we only know what's being rumored. But it sure seems like the Flyers are hell bent on doing something. Making some kind of a splash. Like going to the store with the Credit Card to buy something. You don't know what it is, but your not coming home empty handed. I'd rather they make a move if it's the right move. If not bide time with some moves that aren't a big commitment until the right move presents itself.
- MJL

I'm on board with that, I'd much prefer they leave themselves in a position to get a top defenseman over pursuing a top forward right now. I won't be upset over a top talent on the first line wing if that's our destiny, of course.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:14 AM ET
For someone that doesn't believe in unsubstantiated rumors about players personal lives, you sure do buy into unsubstantiated hockey rumors.
- bradleyc4


Obviously, by stating that we only know what we here in rumors, I'm saying that none of it is fact. And none of it factual.
Based on the fact that the Flyers are an aggressive franchise, that most times spends to the Cap, and normally makes a splash, I think it's reasonable to think that they will try to again this year. Based on past history.

So I think it's highly inaccurate for you to state that I buy into unsubstantiated hockey rumors. That's simply not the case.

And there is a huge difference between speculating on a players personal life, and judging that players character. Versus speculating on trade rumors and player moves. But that's just my opinion
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:14 AM ET
There certainly is a difference between speculating on a hockey related rumor, and blatant character assassination.

- MBFlyerfan


Maybe just a little!
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 15 @ 11:15 AM ET
For someone that doesn't believe in unsubstantiated rumors about players personal lives, you sure do buy into unsubstantiated hockey rumors.
- bradleyc4

OH ISHHHHH
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 15 @ 11:16 AM ET
There certainly is a difference between speculating on a hockey related rumor, and blatant character assassination.

- MBFlyerfan

While some of it was simply character assassination (Carter with former Mrs. Hartnell)... a lot of it was widespread rumor with some sort of backing...

You know what they say.. when there is smoke, there is smoke.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:17 AM ET
OH ISHHHHH
- jak521

Ish indeed! The gloves are off, folks!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:20 AM ET
You know what they say.. when there is smoke, there is smoke.
- jak521

Wisdom for the ages
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 15 @ 11:24 AM ET
Wisdom for the ages
- BulliesPhan87

my dad used to say that to me all the time...

His point was that if you were doing something that would make people suspicious.. you were on a bad path. (IE)... Walking around with a big group of kids in 9th grade... When theres smoke, theres smoke... even if you arent in the wrong.. people will suspect something is going on.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 15 @ 11:24 AM ET
Ish indeed! The gloves are off, folks!
- BulliesPhan87

bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:31 AM ET
There certainly is a difference between speculating on a hockey related rumor, and blatant character assassination.

- MBFlyerfan


I'm not saying that we should believe everything we read, or even 2% of what we read.

But if someone wants to dismiss every single, unconfirmed rumor, they're free to lead their oblivious life.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:32 AM ET
my dad used to say that to me all the time...

His point was that if you were doing something that would make people suspicious.. you were on a bad path. (IE)... Walking around with a big group of kids in 9th grade... When theres smoke, theres smoke... even if you arent in the wrong.. people will suspect something is going on.

- jak521

Especially good advice for this day and age.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:45 AM ET
I'm not saying that we should believe everything we read, or even 2% of what we read.

But if someone wants to dismiss every single, unconfirmed rumor, they're free to lead their oblivious life.

- bradleyc4




but also x2
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 15 @ 11:52 AM ET
I'm not saying that we should believe everything we read, or even 2% of what we read.

But if someone wants to dismiss every single, unconfirmed rumor, they're free to lead their oblivious life.

- bradleyc4


who are you referring to?
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:54 AM ET
who are you referring to?
- OrangeBlack27



to whom, bro
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 15 @ 11:56 AM ET
to whom, bro
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Damn... even Davies is gettin into da act

EDIT: I mean DFT
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 15 @ 11:56 AM ET
to whom, bro
- Don'tForgetTocchet


ya like anyone says to whom in everyday speech, ma
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:58 AM ET
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