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flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:19 PM ET
What happened to the infected toe that was holding him back from the surgery? Now he doesn't need surgery? The Flyers are terrible at reporting injuries. Good news that JvR is healthy.
- stveshdy


yet great at mis-information. there always seems to be a smoke screen coming from our front office
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 14 @ 10:19 PM ET


Don't know if anyone shared this today.

- bodiva88


That was great. I saw it on facebook earlier.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:20 PM ET
That was great. I saw it on facebook earlier.
- Jsaquella


where was that picture taken?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:20 PM ET
I believe JVR's hip will be operated on right after Grossmann's gets out of the operating room for his knee.
- ravishingone




Your probably right.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:20 PM ET
van Riemsdyk said that the foot is still infected, my guess is that he got a second opinion on the hip and it was decided that rest and rehab would correct the issue without surgical action being taken.
- Jsaquella



Let's hope that ,that second opinion is correct.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 14 @ 10:21 PM ET
where was that picture taken?
- flyerscup2011


The 9-11 Memorial in New York City. Mark Bavis and Ace Bailey were two Kings scouts, who were on one of the hijacked planes.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:22 PM ET
van Riemsdyk said that the foot is still infected, my guess is that he got a second opinion on the hip and it was decided that rest and rehab would correct the issue without surgical action being taken.
- Jsaquella


Interesting. The Flyers say one thing and the other doctors say another. I'm glad hes healthy and doesnt need surgery just wish we all could get on the same page.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 14 @ 10:23 PM ET
Let's hope that ,that second opinion is correct.
- MJL


Absolutely. Of course, there may have been a lot of swelling or something that made them delay and when it went down they saw only minor issues.

I just want to see him healthy and raring to go in 2012-13.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:24 PM ET
Absolutely. Of course, there may have been a lot of swelling or something that made them delay and when it went down they saw only minor issues.

I just want to see him healthy and raring to go in 2012-13 in Nashville.

- Jsaquella


Fixed. J/K everyone.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:25 PM ET
The 9-11 Memorial in New York City. Mark Bavis and Ace Bailey were two Kings scouts, who were on one of the hijacked planes.
- Jsaquella


much respect.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 14 @ 10:26 PM ET
Interesting. The Flyers say one thing and the other doctors say another. I'm glad hes healthy and doesnt need surgery just wish we all could get on the same page.
- stveshdy


As long as the docs are right, that's my only concern. They could have found something on a second exam or MRI that showed the initial diagnosis was wrong or that after swelling went down, the damage was not as serious as first believed.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 14 @ 10:28 PM ET
much respect.
- flyerscup2011


It was a great and touching tribute.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:29 PM ET
As long as the docs are right, that's my only concern. They could have found something on a second exam or MRI that showed the initial diagnosis was wrong or that after swelling went down, the damage was not as serious as first believed.
- Jsaquella


I just find it funny that just a couple of days ago they said he was waiting to get the surgery b/c of the infection in his foot. Now all of a sudden a miracle happens and no surgery is needed. Crazy imo. Good for him that he doesn't need surgery but I hope that hip holds up.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:29 PM ET
It was a great and touching tribute.
- Jsaquella


they should bring the cup there at some point as well.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 14 @ 10:31 PM ET
I just find it funny that just a couple of days ago they said he was waiting to get the surgery b/c of the infection in his foot. Now all of a sudden a miracle happens and no surgery is needed. Crazy imo. Good for him that he doesn't need surgery but I hope that hip holds up.
- stveshdy


Honestly, everything has to be taken with a grain of salt.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 14 @ 10:31 PM ET
they should bring the cup there at some point as well.
- flyerscup2011


That would be extremely cool.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:36 PM ET
Honestly, everything has to be taken with a grain of salt.
- Jsaquella


At this point you are absolutely correct. I no longer believe anything that is being said. The only time I didn't want something to be true it was ( The Pronger season ending injury).
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:40 PM ET
At this point you are absolutely correct. I no longer believe anything that is being said. The only time I didn't want something to be true it was ( The Pronger season ending injury).
- stveshdy


The point to keep in mind is that it was just announced today that JVR won't need surgery. Holmgren said that the infection was keeping the surgery from happening. At the time that may have very well been true as far as Holmgren knew. The player has final say what happens. Things change. Diagnosis and treatment options change. Doesn't mean anyone wasn't being forthright.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:48 PM ET
The point to keep in mind is that it was just announced today that JVR won't need surgery. Holmgren said that the infection was keeping the surgery from happening. At the time that may have very well been true as far as Holmgren knew. The player has final say what happens. Things change. Diagnosis and treatment options change. Doesn't mean anyone wasn't being forthright.
- MJL


Agreed. I still don't know if I believe Homer when it comes to anything. The guy has a poker face that you can't read. He makes you believe one thing when really its another. Only a week away from the draft and I'm very interested to see what the Flyers do.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 14 @ 10:54 PM ET
Agreed. I still don't know if I believe Homer when it comes to anything. The guy has a poker face that you can't read. He makes you believe one thing when really its another. Only a week away from the draft and I'm very interested to see what the Flyers do.
- stveshdy


Nothing different from Clarke. I remember before the 1998 TDL, Clarke swore up and down he wasn't making a goalie move. 24 hours later, Sean Burke was a Flyer
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:00 PM ET
Nothing different from Clarke. I remember before the 1998 TDL, Clarke swore up and down he wasn't making a goalie move. 24 hours later, Sean Burke was a Flyer
- Jsaquella


I like Holmgren much better than Clarke as a GM. Who do you think will be the most improved Flyer next year?
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 14 @ 11:02 PM ET
I like Holmgren much better than Clarke as a GM. Who do you think will be the most improved Flyer next year?
- stveshdy




Bryz
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 14 @ 11:05 PM ET
I'm extremely objective about it. And my objectivity is based on I'm not in his shoes. And I wasn't there. So I'm not going to criticize based on hearsay and judge someone for how they reacted to a situation. I put myself in his shoes and ask, how would I have felt.

And I didn't in any way state that anyone is a bad person for having an opinion. But Jeff Carter is apparently a bad person for being human.

- MJL

never said carter was a bad guy, but he handled the situation somewhat unprofessionally.

your supposed objectivity re carter/Richards doesn't wash. where your concerned, they can do no wrong. holmgren had the final say on that one- those two weren't the guys he wanted to build around. they're good support players and they were effective in those roles for LA.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:07 PM ET
Bryz
- aosplayo


Bryz is going to have a lot of pressure on him again next season. The adjustment period is over and people are going to expect bigger things. I think Bryz can do it but hes going to need the support of his teammates also. Two areas I would like to see Bryz improve on is keeping his stick down protecting his five hole and being better handling the puck behind the net.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 14 @ 11:08 PM ET
Bryz is going to have a lot of pressure on him again next season. The adjustment period is over and people are going to expect bigger things. I think Bryz can do it but hes going to need the support of his teammates also. Two areas I would like to see Bryz improve on is keeping his stick down protecting his five hole and being better handling the puck behind the net.
- stveshdy




I hear all of that. I think he has it in him. Who do you think will be most improved?


Side note: IF Bryz is the most improved....well.......book your parade spot
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