i think UG has a bigger hard on for faksa than Huddle

Yeah, another 3rd liner to play with Connolly, Armstrong, Frattin, Kulemin, Steckle......
You now you can only play 3 guys on this line right?

Even with a g lut of dmen, unless your unloading one of the existing underachievers I can't see how yet another bottom 6 guy helps anything?

We need a top 6 guy!
- B-Wforever

We don't have any 3rd liners. I never understand the people that say, we already have a team full of 3rd liners.

You're right. Past actions aren't an indication of future ones.

Just because Grigs is ranked high by some (20th by others) doesn't mean that Burke and his staff rank him that high as well.
- Schenn-Sational!

hes ranked 20th in one... and when someone makes a point of saying theyre arent doing what theyve done in the past generally that negates the past actions... since they just stated they arent doing what they did in the past

We don't have any 3rd liners. I never understand the people that say, we already have a team full of 3rd liners.
- Leafland

we only have 3rd liners cuz we dont tank and draft in lottery positions

Good for him. He's 30 in two months. And not free. Waste of assets.
- Unholy_Goalie

so am i

The Stars don't need a 3-6 Dman they need top pairing. Larsen's emergence last year along with what's on the roster and what is Austin have the non elite covered.

While possible I wouldn't rate this trade as likely, I do agree Burke and Newy probably have a good relationship but I don't think this one will happen.

First of all, he plays center and secondly, he's a big, physical, two-way player. So yeah, he's kind of exactly what they need.

Don't draft Dumba because he "might" be as stupid as Phaneuf.
- Unholy_Goalie

I've read in a few places that he doesn't look like he'll be a center as he develops, but even if he does, he still doesn't project to be more than a 2nd line guy.

So why take the hit to talent when you could grab a more skilled guy like Dumba, and trade other pieces for the center you need?

i think UG has a bigger hard on for faksa than Huddle
- peddy-93

Faksa is a perfect fit for the Leafs, especially if they can move down two spots and get more draft picks.

They passed on Connolly and Fowler for Nino, and Couturier and Hamilton for Strome.

JT was fine.

But trading up for DeHaan? taking Bailey? bleh.
- Schenn-Sational!

A few teams passed up on Fowler. Connelly... we will have to wait and see.

I liked Couturier and Hamilton... but they dropped to for some reason.

I guess time will only tell.

The de Haan and Bailey draft year was pretty crappy...lol.

Let's see if deHaan plays this year.... and if Bailey finally shows up.

Yes he is. Not a huge asset but not worth tossing aside for nothing either.
- Unholy_Goalie

on an asset scale of 1-10
1 being Aki Berg
10- Gilmore
what would franson be?

I really don't like the idea of Ott. Wasn't this exactly what Armstromg was and was supposed to be? Gritty 3rd liners tend to wash up really fast because of their style of play and honestly, they are much easier to develop internally. I know Frattin doesn't have the same edge but could play that 3rd line role and probably put up better numbers

You're right. Past actions aren't an indication of future ones.

Just because Grigs is ranked high by some (20th by others) doesn't mean that Burke and his staff rank him that high as well.
- Schenn-Sational!

You kind of contradict yourself. You say Burke may not rank Grigs as high as others, but before you said Faksa is an off the board pick. Whose to say that Burke doesn't have him ranked high?

I've read in a few places that he doesn't look like he'll be a center as he develops, but even if he does, he still doesn't project to be more than a 2nd line guy.

So why take the hit to talent when you could grab a more skilled guy like Dumba, and trade other pieces for the center you need?
- Schenn-Sational!

we NEED an ELITE prospect, no more of these "good" ones. I say go big or go home this draft.

on an asset scale of 1-10
1 being Aki Berg
10- Gilmore
what would franson be?
- Sammich

4, nowhere near Sundin at 12.

Faksa is a perfect fit for the Leafs, especially if they can move down two spots and get more draft picks.
- Unholy_Goalie

Ya but what do you get for moving down? A couple of low round picks? Take what's left at 5, can't go wrong with that.

Faksa is a perfect fit for the Leafs, especially if they can move down two spots and get more draft picks.
- Unholy_Goalie

Ya but what do you get for moving down? A couple of low round picks? Take what's left at 5, can't go wrong with that.

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on an asset scale of 1-10
1 being Aki Berg
10- Gilmore
what would franson be?
- Sammich

5.5. Big, good with the puck, lots of room to grow.

I've read in a few places that he doesn't look like he'll be a center as he develops, but even if he does, he still doesn't project to be more than a 2nd line guy.

So why take the hit to talent when you could grab a more skilled guy like Dumba, and trade other pieces for the center you need?
- Schenn-Sational!

He's perfect for being a center. He's a hard worker, two-way player and he has the size for it. All he has to do is make sure his face-off skills are up to par.

As for being a "2nd line guy", that's only because he's not a flashy player. It's not like he scored 10 goals and 40 points in the OHL. He did very well as a rookie. Actually, not even that far off from Kadri's numbers.

Dumba is a stupid pick for the Leafs. He's a one-dimensional player and the complete opposite of what this team needs. Burke even hinted at it himself. He's taking a center.

4, nowhere near Sundin at 12.
- yea-ok-buddy

sorry the correct answer for Sundin was 13

Ya but what do you get for moving down? A couple of low round picks? Take what's left at 5, can't go wrong with that.
- xxCHRISTOFIRExx

Another low 1st rounder would be perfect. Could be someone like T.Wilson or first choice of the 3 goalies.

A few teams passed up on Fowler. Connelly... we will have to wait and see.

I liked Couturier and Hamilton... but they dropped to for some reason.

I guess time will only tell.

The de Haan and Bailey draft year was pretty crappy...lol.

Let's see if deHaan plays this year.... and if Bailey finally shows up.
- jimmc7722

I think Couturier fell a bit because he had mono and didn't do so well in the playoffs- kinda like Grigs this year.

on an asset scale of 1-10
1 being Aki Berg
10- Gilmore
what would franson be?
- Sammich

If they develop him right, Franson could be a bigger Ian White. Worth keeping.

He's perfect for being a center. He's a hard worker, two-way player and he has the size for it. All he has to do is make sure his face-off skills are up to par.


Dumba is a stupid pick for the Leafs. He's a one-dimensional player and the complete opposite of what this team needs. Burke even hinted at it himself.


- Unholy_Goalie

There is literally no possible way that Burke drafts Dumba.

Ya but what do you get for moving down? A couple of low round picks? Take what's left at 5, can't go wrong with that.
- xxCHRISTOFIRExx

The Leafs paid a 2nd and a 3rd round pick to move from 7th to 5th to take Schenn so the Leafs could probably get the same. That means being able to pick two more times in the top 90. It's worth it.

Or, the Leafs could take the 2nd and the 3rd round pick and use it to trade up into the late 1st round. Maybe take a player like Gaunce or Laughton, depending on if they fall or not.