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saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 13 @ 1:28 PM ET
No one would have said we would have had the 29th pick this year so hold off on saying we will "never" have it next year or the year after....

new CBA coming...Lou probably is going to give it a shot to have the punishment dropped....even if that doesnt work there isnt much of a difference between 29 this year and 25 two years from now.....once you get outside the top 10 on a normal draft year its a shot in the dark pretty much

- mhowitzer



You run a good point... We took Pouliot and passed on Parise...
mhowitzer
New Jersey Devils
Location: Central Jersey
Joined: 02.10.2009

Jun 13 @ 1:29 PM ET
You run a good point... We took Pouliot and passed on Parise...
- saskoil21

I think Steve Bernier was the pick before parise too lol

and i think 5 picks before both of them was Hugh Jessimen
RyanGetzPerry
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 08.10.2011

Jun 13 @ 1:31 PM ET
LOL Schultz signing with the devils? Or edmonton or vancouver... its the worst kept secret in the NHL he will be a leaf come July 1st or before if Murray and Burke work out a deal for his rights.

He wants to play with his buddy gardiner.

- beleaf4ever

And then later in the year, they'll find out Burke was the one who tampered with the situation and they'll be fined draft picks.
nhaneo
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 13 @ 1:31 PM ET
How does it make any sense at all keeping the pick? This is as bad as the pick could possibly get. You really think they'll win the cup next year cause that's the only way this makes any sense.
nhaneo
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 13 @ 1:33 PM ET
What's the difference in 29th overall this year and say 25th overall next year? The 29th overall will be a good prospect and already have a year of development. That's how it makes sense.
- Todd.Cordell


The difference is you know that this is the 2nd worst selection in the draft, You have no guarantee of next year. What if the Devils collapse with Brodeur and Parise gone and they get the 4th overall again? They just screwed themselves over.

This is almost the best possible scenario and they blew it.
mhowitzer
New Jersey Devils
Location: Central Jersey
Joined: 02.10.2009

Jun 13 @ 1:35 PM ET
The difference is you know that this is the 2nd worst selection in the draft, You have no guarantee of next year. What if the Devils collapse with Brodeur and Parise gone and they get the 4th overall again? They just screwed themselves over.

This is almost the best possible scenario and they blew it.

- nhaneo

They have two more seasons to give up the pick...
beleaf4ever
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You know you're a hockey fan w, ON
Joined: 09.11.2008

Jun 13 @ 1:36 PM ET
And then later in the year, they'll find out Burke was the one who tampered with the situation and they'll be fined draft picks.
- RyanGetzPerry


No hence why they will make a trade for his rights instead. Murray and Burke r buddies they will make a deal before he goes and rats on him... plus players saying they wanna play with another player is not tampering. The most we would get fined is like a 2nd rounder.. well worth schultz.
nhaneo
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 13 @ 1:39 PM ET
They have two more seasons to give up the pick...
- mhowitzer

Woops, my bad but still this is almost the best case scenario. If they suck the following year and do not want to give up the pick they're forced the year after that. At least they have control over the situation here. Still think he blew it.
Bowkes
New Jersey Devils
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jun 13 @ 1:44 PM ET
Woops, my bad but still this is almost the best case scenario. If they suck the following year and do not want to give up the pick they're forced the year after that. At least they have control over the situation here. Still think he blew it.
- nhaneo

You can always play the if game. Doesnt matter obviously Lou has plan or direction he believes in, he's been doing this for along time. Cant be that bad has gotten three rings putting the Devils together over the years. Ill trust him to do his job over someone commenting on some forums.
Lohaus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 13 @ 1:45 PM ET
I thought this years draft is weak... and next years draft is supposively deeper... YOu will never get the 29th pick next year you will be picking higher - book it... I find this absolutely amazing... I guess in LOU you trust....
- saskoil21

The top tier of next year is much better than this years. This draft is very underwhelming. There are a lot of players who could likely be players, but no real standouts. The issue is, in my opinion, if the Devils do take a step back and end up say picking 9th as an example, and hit the lottery, they have a top 5 pick in a top tier that looks to have about 7 absolute impact players. Just based on the CHL ones alone, its an extremely impressive group. So now they've picked both times and have set themselves up for the following year in which they have to give up the pick. As for the depoth of the following year, who knows.

I guess the point is, in a draft that is not strong and you have the 2nd worst pick available, you'd think the GM would forfeit that one and go forward to the other two drafts, where the likelihood of returning to the finals is historcially growing slimmer and slimmer. Just my thinking. It seemed like an absolute no brainer. Weaker draft, worst pick versus strong draft unknown pick versus unknown draft and unknown pick. Play the odds.
13LEAFS01
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 06.01.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:52 PM ET
And then later in the year, they'll find out Burke was the one who tampered with the situation and they'll be fined draft picks.
- RyanGetzPerry


That will never happen to Burke. He worked at the NHL head office. He knows what he can and cant do.

I don't know if you've noticed, but the Leafs have signed a lot of UFA coming out of the NCAA.

They have a chance to play with the Leafs. That is all there is to it.

There is no opportunity in Vancouver, NY etc.
Prucha
New York Rangers
Location: New York Proud!, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jun 13 @ 1:52 PM ET
I think Steve Bernier was the pick before parise too lol

and i think 5 picks before both of them was Hugh Jessimen

- mhowitzer


That hurts everytime draft day comes around!!!
Prucha
New York Rangers
Location: New York Proud!, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jun 13 @ 1:53 PM ET
That will never happen to Burke. He worked at the NHL head office. He knows what he can and cant do.

I don't know if you've noticed, but the Leafs have signed a lot of UFA coming out of the NCAA.

They have a chance to play with the Leafs. That is all there is to it.

There is no opportunity in Vancouver, NY etc.

- 13LEAFS01

There is plenty of chance in NY, just look at McD. Aren't the leafs loaded with Dmen?
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:53 PM ET
Silly move by Parise, at least stay mum if that's your feeling & use the Rangers to help drive up your price. And it should be noted also that Scott Gomez said similiar things about not going to the Rangers before he went UFA in 07 & we know how that turned out.
- B2B76


Yea, Ryan McDonaugh
Prucha
New York Rangers
Location: New York Proud!, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jun 13 @ 1:55 PM ET
Yea, Ryan McDonaugh
- Pat MaGroin

McDonaugh, he is friends with Scott Hurtinell?
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:57 PM ET
Silly move by Parise, at least stay mum if that's your feeling & use the Rangers to help drive up your price. And it should be noted also that Scott Gomez said similiar things about not going to the Rangers before he went UFA in 07 & we know how that turned out.
- B2B76


except Gomez was obviously an idiot, being that he won nothing with anyone but NJ, and Parise knows a lame franchise when he sees and beats it.. so i doubt he'll change his mind.
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:57 PM ET
That hurts everytime draft day comes around!!!
- Prucha


Just as bad when you guys selected Bobby Sanguinetti right before the Flyers pick, the Flyers for sure thought Sanguinetti was going to be their guy. Than Bob Clarke went up to the podium and forgot who their selection was going to be, thank god it turned out to be a good one (Claude Giroux).
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:57 PM ET
Lou may be using that pick in a trade? maybe trade up? who knows.
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:58 PM ET
McDonaugh, he is friends with Scott Hurtinell?
- Prucha


Never said I was a good speller
nhaneo
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 13 @ 1:59 PM ET
You can always play the if game. Doesnt matter obviously Lou has plan or direction he believes in, he's been doing this for along time. Cant be that bad has gotten three rings putting the Devils together over the years. Ill trust him to do his job over someone commenting on some forums.
- Bowkes


So no talking about decisions being good or bad because he has a few rings?
deadmau5
St Louis Blues
Location: i will jmatchett you before you can say sorry, MA
Joined: 10.28.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:59 PM ET
LOL Schultz signing with the devils? Or edmonton or vancouver... its the worst kept secret in the NHL he will be a leaf come July 1st or before if Murray and Burke work out a deal for his rights.

He wants to play with his buddy gardiner.

- beleaf4ever

Sucks for him
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 13 @ 2:05 PM ET
That will never happen to Burke. He worked at the NHL head office. He knows what he can and cant do.

I don't know if you've noticed, but the Leafs have signed a lot of UFA coming out of the NCAA.

They have a chance to play with the Leafs. That is all there is to it.

There is no opportunity in Vancouver, NY etc.

- 13LEAFS01


But there is no chances with the other teams... maybe he signs with LA and wants the cup ring immediately as we all know they are fav for next year and years after??
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 13 @ 2:10 PM ET
LOL Schultz signing with the devils? Or edmonton or vancouver... its the worst kept secret in the NHL he will be a leaf come July 1st or before if Murray and Burke work out a deal for his rights.

He wants to play with his buddy gardiner.

- beleaf4ever


At least in Edmonton he would/could end up playing with 2-4 upcoming potential superstars... or in New Jersey with superstars in Kovy, HOF in Brodeur... but I guess if TO is the choice then Gardiner will have to do...
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 13 @ 2:47 PM ET
If I was Parise i'd sign in Toronto aka NHL All Stars
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 13 @ 2:48 PM ET
http://blogs.northjersey....y_hell_sign_with_rangers/

I like to read that.
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