MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Briere looked pretty hot in the playoffs once again to me. Why move him and how would it be for the good of the team? - roenick97
Because you have players such as Couturier and Schenn who can be more physical and play better defensively in the pivot. Also Talbot. I'm not saying it should be done. Only that if the team feels it is needed. Briere can move to Wing.
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aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Typical Montreal, PA Joined: 07.10.2008
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To the guy who keeps reporting posts...one more time and you'll be the one who's banned.
People disagreeing with you doesn't merit a reported post. - Juice
Why wouldn't you just pm this to him? |
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roenick97
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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Because you have players such as Couturier and Schenn who can be more physical and play better defensively in the pivot. Also Talbot. I'm not saying it should be done. Only that if the team feels it is needed. Briere can move to Wing. - MJL
I think both Schenn and Briere would hurt on the wing. At the same time Couturier is the last player I want to see on the wing. Then I look at Voracek, Simmonds and Jagr who are normally on the right side. |
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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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To the guy who keeps reporting posts...one more time and you'll be the one who's banned.
People disagreeing with you doesn't merit a reported post. - Juice
Yeah, who the heck are you talking about?? |
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Juice
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Location: "There are a few posters who a Joined: 12.06.2007
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Why wouldn't you just pm this to him? - aightwebang17
Cause by saying it on the board, other folks see that reporting crap ain't cool. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Yeah, I just dont see us having room for another center. I don't like the idea of moving our guys to the wing. That said, if there's some blockbuster deal in the works where we end up moving someone like schenn then I'll be a lot more interested in looking at 3rd and 4th line centers.
right now though, forwards should be the least of our worries. |
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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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Cause by saying it on the board, other folks see that reporting crap ain't cool. - Juice
How you're going about this isn't cool. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Yeah, I just dont see us having room for another center. I don't like the idea of moving our guys to the wing. That said, if there's some blockbuster deal in the works where we end up moving someone like schenn then I'll be a lot more interested in looking at 3rd and 4th line centers.
right now though, forwards should be the least of our worries. - hereticpride
They have a definite need for a 4th line Center. One that can take faceoffs, play well defensively. And play on the PK.
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Why can't he? Players adjust. We heard the same things here such as Carter can't play Wing. And Carter and Richards can't play together. Briere can play the Wing. No reason why he can't. Wings don't go to the net, or play around the net offensively? - MJL
Yes, players can adjust, but that doesn't mean they'd play the position they adjusted to just as well as their "primary" position. After playing center for 10+ seasons, I feel like Briere is better suited there than at wing. But hey, I'm not Lavy.
As far as wings not going to the net or playing around it, you're right there also- they do. But not as much as centers do. Also a reason why I want to keep him at center. Those facets of his game- driving to the net and stickhandling behind it to make things happen- are pretty much the center's job in the offensive zone. I'd just like to see him stick at center. I don't think he'd fare well at wing, and he hasn't in games he's played there as recently as this season. |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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How you're going about this isn't cool. - roenick97
There is no problem with how it is being handled. |
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roenick97
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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There is no problem with how it is being handled. - ob18
What someone else is doing has nothing to do with the rest of us. We're not here to be threatened or handled like children. Yes, there is a problem with how it's being handled. PM this person. That's what it's there for. Period. |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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What someone else is doing has nothing to do with the rest of us. We're not here to be threatened or handled like children. Yes, there is a problem with how it's being handled. PM this person. That's what it's there for. Period. - roenick97
Sorry you don't agree with it but this method had to be done as well as that so others don't do the same. |
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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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Sorry you don't agree with it but this method had to be done as well as that so others don't do the same. - ob18
Whatever ob, way to flex that muscle but it's wrong. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Yes, players can adjust, but that doesn't mean they'd play the position they adjusted to just as well as their "primary" position. After playing center for 10+ seasons, I feel like Briere is better suited there than at wing. But hey, I'm not Lavy.
As far as wings not going to the net or playing around it, you're right there also- they do. But not as much as centers do. Also a reason why I want to keep him at center. Those facets of his game- driving to the net and stickhandling behind it to make things happen- are pretty much the center's job in the offensive zone. I'd just like to see him stick at center. I don't think he'd fare well at wing, and he hasn't in games he's played there as recently as this season. - Giroux_Is_God
I don't think there is anything to that being the Center's job in the offensive zone. There really is no such thing as that. A Wing can go to the net, and set up behind the net no differently then a Center can. Especially in a 2-1 forecheck like the Flyers play a lot. Briere once he made the adjustment, would be fine at Wing.
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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They have a definite need for a 4th line Center. One that can take faceoffs, play well defensively. And play on the PK. - MJL
I won't argue that. I was making that point all last offseason. But what are we going to do? We already have like 5 pretty darned talented centers, none of which look to be going anywhere any time soon.
Faceoffs are a sore spot for this team for sure. Not sure if that's so much a player problem as it is they need to go out and find a better coach for it. And sans Briere they all play pretty well defensively and can PK. |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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Whatever ob, way to flex that muscle but it's wrong. - roenick97
No muscle is being flexed. Again sorry you feel that way.
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I won't argue that. I was making that point all last offseason. But what are we going to do? We already have like 5 pretty darned talented centers, none of which look to be going anywhere any time soon.
Faceoffs are a sore spot for this team for sure. Not sure if that's so much a player problem as it is they need to go out and find a better coach for it. And sans Briere they all play pretty well defensively and can PK. - hereticpride
None of the 5 should be playing on the 4th line in my opinion. With the possible exception of Talbot. And he can play the Wing. But I'd rather talbot play on the 3rd line. Talbot isn't that great of a faceoff guy. Also I'd rather my 800K 4th line Center be playing on the PK, playing hard minutes and blocking shots then my team's franchise player. I don't know how the Flyers are going to feel. But that's my opinion. |
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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How you're going about this isn't cool. - roenick97
Impossible, Mr. Juice is a very cool guy. |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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I don't think there is anything to that being the Center's job in the offensive zone. There really is no such thing as that. A Wing can go to the net, and set up behind the net no differently then a Center can. Especially in a 2-1 forecheck like the Flyers play a lot. Briere once he made the adjustment, would be fine at Wing. - MJL
I have to disagree with you there. As a hockey player and natural center myself, a center is "expected" to "do his job" as a net player in the offensive zone, in and around it. Yes, there are cycles that may change it, but I was always taught that the center should try to cycle back to the center "position".
A center definitely plays closer to and around the net than wingers do, generally. And I think this is Briere's strong point.
In no way am I saying that wingers don't or can't play like that though- understand me on that one. |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Awww...my gif is gone |
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Giroux_Is_God
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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None of the 5 should be playing on the 4th line in my opinion. With the possible exception of Talbot. And he can play the Wing. But I'd rather talbot play on the 3rd line. Talbot isn't that great of a faceoff guy. Also I'd rather my 800K 4th line Center be playing on the PK, playing hard minutes and blocking shots then my team's franchise player. I don't know how the Flyers are going to feel. But that's my opinion. - MJL
Therein lies the problem with getting the 4th line center me and you are talking about. I want one. I think it would be huge for this team, as do you. But I think the depth chart is gonna prevent Homer from going out and grabbing someone to fill that role, because shuffling guys and their roles might do more harm than good....kind of a weird predicament to be in- having too much depth. I'll take too much over not enough though |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I have to disagree with you there. As a hockey player and natural center myself, a center is "expected" to "do his job" as a net player in the offensive zone, in and around it. Yes, there are cycles that may change it, but I was always taught that the center should try to cycle back to the center "position".
A center definitely plays closer to and around the net than wingers do, generally. And I think this is Briere's strong point.
In no way am I saying that wingers don't or can't play like that though- understand me on that one. - Giroux_Is_God
That is simply not true in the NHL game in the offensive end of the ice. First forward in regardless of whether your a Center, or a Wing will get on the puck on the forecheck. If it's behind the net or in the corner. 2nd forward supports the puck. 3rd forward stays high. And it's a rotation. There is no set spot for a Center or a Wing to be in the offensive zone. It's simply not that static. The NHL game allows for a lot of individual play and creativity offensively. Briere could still play the same game around the net as a Winger as he can at Center. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Therein lies the problem with getting the 4th line center me and you are talking about. I want one. I think it would be huge for this team, as do you. But I think the depth chart is gonna prevent Homer from going out and grabbing someone to fill that role, because shuffling guys and their roles might do more harm than good....kind of a weird predicament to be in- having too much depth. I'll take too much over not enough though - Giroux_Is_God
I don't think the depth chart is going to be an issue. The Forward depth chart is likely to change in the near future.
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Giroux_Is_God
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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I don't think the depth chart is going to be an issue. The Forward depth chart is likely to change in the near future. - MJL
I hope not... |
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