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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 4:07 PM ET
Im not saying there was for sure since i wasnt there......but i do believe it to be the case...i think the org would have put up with the drinking but not the drugs.
- Philly1980



So both Richards and Carter have a Cocaine habit?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:09 PM ET
I've actually stopped listening to WIP conmpletely outside of Glen's show and now listen to Sirius Radio. my life and sanity if better because of it
- nastyflyergirl

I been telling you to stop listening to them for like 6 months now Glad you are enjoying sanity
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 13 @ 4:09 PM ET
I'd say that the article where Carchidi labeled Richards "Captain Whine" is a good place to start.

But do I have any direct proof that I can offer here, no I don't. But that's my opinion

- MJL


Maybe he called him Captain Whine because he's whiny. It seems a little unprofessional, but not necessarily untrue. We just made it thru another Flyer's season with the same folks writing and reporting on the Flyers. I'm sure they all still need to sell papers or ads, but I don't remember any negative stories about the team. I do remember some reports out of LA that Richards was causing a divide in the Kings locker room.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 13 @ 4:10 PM ET
So both Richards and Carter have a Cocaine habit?
- MJL


You keep asking the same question
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:10 PM ET
So both Richards and Carter have a Cocaine habit?
- MJL


Can you prove they dont?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
I can't go that far. That's a strong accusation that you do need more proof on.
- JoeRussomanno


i didnt accuse...thats just my opinion.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
Anyone think that one of the "Top 6 Forwards" Eklund is reffering to is Hartnell? Could Hartnell waive his NTC for Nashville, and would Nashville want him back?
- RooNosHockey


I hope not. Flyers need him desperately. I would think the package Nashville wants is Schenn/Couturier, JVR, picks/prospects. If Cooter is not in the picture the Flyers better pull the trigger. Holmgren might be hiding out in JVR's front bushes with a tranquilizer gun for this surgery.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
So both Richards and Carter have a Cocaine habit?
- MJL


do i believe that yes....did i sell them the coke NO!
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 13 @ 4:13 PM ET
Im not saying there was for sure since i wasnt there......but i do believe it to be the case...i think the org would have put up with the drinking but not the drugs.
- Philly1980



i don't think the implication was that there was drug problem. I do think Holmgren was concerned with the amount of drinking and partying. I think as an alcoholic Holmgren is sensitive to substance abuse among players.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:14 PM ET
i don't think the implication was that there was drug problem. I do think Holmgren was concerned with the amount of drinking and partying. I think as an alcoholic Holmgren is sensitive to substance abuse among players.
- Dkos


Your probably right...but i would think it would take a lot more than boozing to move them....
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 13 @ 4:15 PM ET
I've actually stopped listening to WIP conmpletely outside of Glen's show and now listen to Sirius Radio. my life and sanity if better because of it
- nastyflyergirl


can't even listen to that crap anymore, either.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 13 @ 4:16 PM ET
i don't think the implication was that there was drug problem. I do think Holmgren was concerned with the amount of drinking and partying. I think as an alcoholic Holmgren is sensitive to substance abuse among players.
- Dkos


I don't think that is the case...


Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:17 PM ET
I don't think that is the case...



- Jimmygrazz



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:17 PM ET
Maybe he called him Captain Whine because he's whiny. It seems a little unprofessional, but not necessarily untrue. We just made it thru another Flyer's season with the same folks writing and reporting on the Flyers. I'm sure they all still need to sell papers or ads, but I don't remember any negative stories about the team. I do remember some reports out of LA that Richards was causing a divide in the Kings locker room.
- Dkos

I agree with all this except for the no negative stories about the team part this year.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 13 @ 4:18 PM ET
Your probably right...but i would think it would take a lot more than boozing to move them....
- Philly1980


Agreed. I think he moved them for hockey reasons, not because they drink too much.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 4:19 PM ET
You keep asking the same question
- Jimmygrazz



Yep!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:19 PM ET
Can you prove they dont?
- RooNosHockey

He most likely can't but you are innocent until proven guilty therefore it is incumbent on the accuser to provide said proof.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 13 @ 4:19 PM ET
I don't think that is the case...



- Jimmygrazz


trade please....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 4:20 PM ET
Can you prove they dont?
- RooNosHockey



Nope, but I wouldn't accuse someone of that if there wasn't conclusive proof. So I'm going to give Richards and Carter the benefit of the doubt there.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:21 PM ET
Nope, but I wouldn't accuse someone of that if there wasn't conclusive proof. So I'm going to give Richards and Carter the benefit of the doubt there.
- MJL

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:21 PM ET
Nope, but I wouldn't accuse someone of that if there wasn't conclusive proof. So I'm going to give Richards and Carter the benefit of the doubt there.
- MJL

I'm with you I don't think there was a drug problem. Other problems yes but I don't see anything telling me there was a drug problem, very heinous and unfounded.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 4:22 PM ET
Maybe he called him Captain Whine because he's whiny. It seems a little unprofessional, but not necessarily untrue. We just made it thru another Flyer's season with the same folks writing and reporting on the Flyers. I'm sure they all still need to sell papers or ads, but I don't remember any negative stories about the team. I do remember some reports out of LA that Richards was causing a divide in the Kings locker room.
- Dkos



Did he all of a sudden become whiny? Look there was some situations with the media that Ricahrds could have handled better. But there is no doubt that some writers, Carchidi in particular, had a personal issue with Richards. And Richards in return. And with the nonsense that was written, I don't blame Richards.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:22 PM ET

- Philly1980

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 13 @ 4:23 PM ET

- Philly1980

You want the truth, yet you keep going to speculation and supposition for answers. You will not find what you seek in that realm.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:24 PM ET
I'm with you I don't think there was a drug problem. Other problems yes but I don't see anything telling me there was a drug problem, very heinous and unfounded.
- JoeRussomanno



enough said

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...ional-drug-012921867.html

im sure there is gossip among players.
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