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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 13 @ 3:42 PM ET
god bless this post.
- OrangeBlack27

+1
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 13 @ 3:43 PM ET
why we should/ shouldn't amnesty Bryzgalov?
- JoeRussomanno



funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 13 @ 3:43 PM ET
What would we be talking about if the Kings didn't make the playoffs??
- Jimmygrazz


What were people talking about before the kings made the playoffs? Still those two bums. It's a shame because I almost hate them now simply from reading the endless back and forth about them in here.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 13 @ 3:44 PM ET
this ones for you MJL!




- Philly1980


I bet no other NHL player has done that
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 3:46 PM ET
I bet no other NHL player has done that
- funmaster18


hahaha yeah Kane....
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 13 @ 3:46 PM ET
this ones for you MJL!




- Philly1980


Cartsy is jealous of the one girl. He wants to be ripping Ritchie's shirt off


stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 13 @ 3:50 PM ET
What were people talking about before the kings made the playoffs? Still those two bums. It's a shame because I almost hate them now simply from reading the endless back and forth about them in here.
- funmaster18


My biggest concern is getting better defensively as a team...

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 3:52 PM ET
Do you have proof that the media is biased or has an agenda? I don't see it. Why would the media be out to get Richards or Carter? How would it benefit the media to lie about them? Do you know why there are so many stories, in the media, about what a great guy Ian Laperrier is? Because he's great guy.
- Dkos



I'd say that the article where Carchidi labeled Richards "Captain Whine" is a good place to start.

But do I have any direct proof that I can offer here, no I don't. But that's my opinion
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 3:53 PM ET
Theres a lot more coke.........a...........cola in LA.
- Philly1980



So again, for the second time your saying that there is a drug problem?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 3:54 PM ET
So again, for the second time your saying that there is a drug problem?
- MJL


pfffff did i say that....no...

But in saying that i DO think drugs are exactly why they got moved....That is MY opinion and i have no proof of that!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 3:55 PM ET
pfffff did i say that....no...
- Philly1980



So what are you saying or alluding to then? It's the second time you've used that reference.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 13 @ 3:55 PM ET
What were people talking about before the kings made the playoffs? Still those two bums. It's a shame because I almost hate them now simply from reading the endless back and forth about them in here.
- funmaster18

It's gotten worse than stale, and it's polarized to the point that one must either completely believe or completely disbelieve the speculation on their off-ice behavior and it's results. Then cue the accusations of drinking the kool-aid or puffing the fun, etc. Yawn.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 13 @ 3:56 PM ET
What were people talking about before the kings made the playoffs? Still those two bums. It's a shame because I almost hate them now simply from reading the endless back and forth about them in here.
- funmaster18

I think for just about everyone there's a huge disappointment factor. I remember the ECF's series against the Penguins and thinking how a cup was in our near future. Two years later we go out and get Pronger end up in the Finals two games shy of the goal. Then last season pronger goes down and this team just can't seem to find itself in the second half. Yet we still had Carter and Richie but the team went into a tailspin, just squeaking by Buffalo only to be the only team not to register a win in a series against Boston. Then that one hot summer afternoon...

I didn't want to believe that my favorite player on the team was passively aggressively staging a mutiny against the Coach. I wanted to believe those two were going to be the captain and co-captain of cup here I think everyone else did too. The three years from 2008 to 2011 was a rollercoaster that is going to take a long time for people to get over. A lot similar to the late 80's losing in 7 to edmonton with a conn smythe/vezina winning goalie, yet only to see him and a good chunk of that regime get traded away with no cup. It's really going to take some people a while to let it go.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 3:56 PM ET
So what are you saying or alluding to then? It's the second time you've used that reference.
- MJL


see my edit
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 3:57 PM ET
It is the same but the adjustment period doesn't happen in the second half of the season it happens when you first get there, as in the case of Bryzgalov, it's been noted a number of times in this very blog thread how he was one the better goalies in the second half in contrast to his first half.
- JoeRussomanno



I think based on his point totals for the Season, Richards didn't exactly set the World on fire during the regular Season in LA.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 3:59 PM ET
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Here's what I said



I stated that Carter's winning of the Cup had a lot more to do with the team he was traded to than his own individual value to his team. You read into that and inferred that I was minimizing Carter's role on L.A. I did not do that.

- phantasm



In my opinion that is exactly what your saying when you go on to say that it was more about the team that Carter was on, and then mention the positive impact that Couturier and Voracek had on the Flyers. Giving equal footing would be stating and recognizing Carter's positive impact on LA.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 4:01 PM ET
see my edit
- Philly1980



So are saying there is a drug problem?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:01 PM ET
What are the topics today?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:04 PM ET
Anyone think that one of the "Top 6 Forwards" Eklund is reffering to is Hartnell? Could Hartnell waive his NTC for Nashville, and would Nashville want him back?
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 13 @ 4:04 PM ET
What are the topics today?
- RooNosHockey


Cartsy's Drug problem..thats about it
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:05 PM ET
So are saying there is a drug problem?
- MJL


Im not saying there was for sure since i wasnt there......but i do believe it to be the case...i think the org would have put up with the drinking but not the drugs.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:05 PM ET
Anyone think that one of the "Top 6 Forwards" Eklund is reffering to is Hartnell? Could Hartnell waive his NTC for Nashville, and would Nashville want him back?
- RooNosHockey

maybe. I brought it up maybe they get Timmonen to waive his but was shot down...
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 13 @ 4:06 PM ET
You mean I was supposed to be bereft to see Richards carry the cup just a couple of months after rumors had him fighting Brown for control of the room at the time he himself wasn't exactly contributing (wondering if he'd ever score another goal, he said). Brown won, and the team won, and Richards seems to have figured out that he's just one cog in the wheel. I'm not sure he was ever going to figure that out here.

And I'm glad for Carter. That he had a relatively healthy postseason and showed that he isn't a playoff bust. I can't really feel bad for any Flyers fan who spent a few years dogging the guy for not being a cyborg warrior. That doesn't mean I don't think less of him for being so completely unprofessional about the trade, even though I certainly understand not wanting to go to Columbus in the first place.

The only thing that had me cringing was knowing that people who don't know a puck is made from vulcanized rubber, including the so-called sports media here, were going to make ridiculous statements about their "leading" the Kings to a cup and the Flyers having made a mistake getting rid of them. I don't see it as a mistake. And most knowledgeable hockey fans (and media, like Bill) don't either.

- bodiva88



I've actually stopped listening to WIP conmpletely outside of Glen's show and now listen to Sirius Radio. my life and sanity if better because of it
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:06 PM ET
Cartsy's Drug problem..thats about it
- Jimmygrazz


Who doesn't have a drug problem? Mine is caffeen. Others is booze....
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:06 PM ET
Im not saying there was for sure since i wasnt there......but i do believe it to be the case...i think the org would have put up with the drinking but not the drugs.
- Philly1980

I can't go that far. That's a strong accusation that you do need more proof on.
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