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niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:40 AM ET
What would you guys say to a deal like this?

To Islanders: 1st Rounder 2012, Franson, Scrivens

To Toronto: Ryan Strome


*** Thus you get to draft ryan murray, matt dumba, franson NHL defender more than decent, and a goalie that dominated the AHL

- Mapleleafs_91


Interesting Trade to be sure but a few things that would prevent the Isles from making this trade.
1. They love Strome. He works out with JT and Moulson in off season and they really like his work ethic, attitude, skill level..etc. The reached a little when drafting him b/c of all these facts. They talked to JT about him a lot and he was actually trying to talk them into drafting him instead of the big D-man (Dougie Hamilton). While I think they would have taken Larsson if he fell to 5.. once he was gone they took Strome.
2. This sounds crazy given our NHL goalie issues last 4 years but the Islanders do not need another goalie "prospect". They have Poulin, Nillson and even Koskinen as goalie propects. If you were talking about a NHL Goalie (schneider, Rask, etc.)... totally different conversation. Another prospect I don't see it.

Your first rounder and Schenn might get you one of our other Centers.. Brock, Lee, etc. don't see them parting with Strome.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 14 @ 10:41 AM ET
That is true though if you drafted both dumba and murray then you have no need to worry about defense for a while and i highly doubt montreal takes forsberg over grig, forsberg is a bigger ? than grig i would say... hasnt really produced in statistics but has upside. My opinion you guys need defence bad, drafting both murray and dumba would be insane in a good way.

Murray Dumba

Streit Hamonic

Macdonald Katic ? Thats looking better

- Mapleleafs_91


if the isles did the deal you proposed, id look to trade down that 5th pick and get an established dman and a mid 1st for the 5th and another prospect...try to get a body like reinhart or ceci
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 14 @ 10:42 AM ET
Can we also be the Wolfpac?
- ses111

Well xXx named us the rascals so I don't see why adding wolfpac to the list of names would hurt?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 14 @ 10:46 AM ET
i dont see how forsberg is the pick....1) he isnt a defenseman 2) apparently he needs a solid 3 years of development 3) id rather have yak, grig, gal, murray, dumba....
- LetsGoIsles


When it comes to the draft nothing would surprise me. I would also take the players you mentioned over Forsberg.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 14 @ 10:49 AM ET
Interesting Trade to be sure but a few things that would prevent the Isles from making this trade.
1. They love Strome. He works out with JT and Moulson in off season and they really like his work ethic, attitude, skill level..etc. The reached a little when drafting him b/c of all these facts. They talked to JT about him a lot and he was actually trying to talk them into drafting him instead of the big D-man (Dougie Hamilton). While I think they would have taken Larsson if he fell to 5.. once he was gone they took Strome.
2. This sounds crazy given our NHL goalie issues last 4 years but the Islanders do not need another goalie "prospect". They have Poulin, Nillson and even Koskinen as goalie propects. If you were talking about a NHL Goalie (schneider, Rask, etc.)... totally different conversation. Another prospect I don't see it.

Your first rounder and Schenn might get you one of our other Centers.. Brock, Lee, etc. don't see them parting with Strome.

- niteislander

I don't see this happening either. Unless it's an incerdibely lopsided deal(in the Isles favor of course)or theres something going on with Strome we are unaware of. I'm excited to see how his camp goes. I wouldn't be happy if they traded him UNLESS it was for a serious upgrade.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 14 @ 10:50 AM ET
Can we also be the Wolfpac?
- ses111



ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 14 @ 10:53 AM ET

- LetsGoIsles


Excellent! Those guys pale in comparsion to our Wolfpack.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 14 @ 10:53 AM ET
Interesting Trade to be sure but a few things that would prevent the Isles from making this trade.
1. They love Strome. He works out with JT and Moulson in off season and they really like his work ethic, attitude, skill level..etc. The reached a little when drafting him b/c of all these facts. They talked to JT about him a lot and he was actually trying to talk them into drafting him instead of the big D-man (Dougie Hamilton). While I think they would have taken Larsson if he fell to 5.. once he was gone they took Strome.
2. This sounds crazy given our NHL goalie issues last 4 years but the Islanders do not need another goalie "prospect". They have Poulin, Nillson and even Koskinen as goalie propects. If you were talking about a NHL Goalie (schneider, Rask, etc.)... totally different conversation. Another prospect I don't see it.

Your first rounder and Schenn might get you one of our other Centers.. Brock, Lee, etc. don't see them parting with Strome.

- niteislander



i think youre severely overvaluing the isles prospects.

andres lee OR brock nelson
FOR
5th pick + Schenn??

that would be a rape job
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:54 AM ET
Strome from all clips I have seen of the kid looks like the real deal. He is a sniper, can skate, has grit... he looks like the dynamic type of center you desperately need on this team's second line. My only reservation is his size but he is still filling out...etc. I don't see Strome getting chances alone in front of the net and not being able to convert them all the time (Hi Nino). or on break aways failing to score (Hi Grabner).
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:55 AM ET
i think youre severely overvaluing the isles prospects.

andres lee OR brock nelson
FOR
5th pick + Schenn??

that would be a rape job

- LetsGoIsles


no sht... how about both... I'll even throw in a Kirill or 2.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:58 AM ET
I don't see this happening either. Unless it's an incerdibely lopsided deal(in the Isles favor of course)or theres something going on with Strome we are unaware of. I'm excited to see how his camp goes. I wouldn't be happy if they traded him UNLESS it was for a serious upgrade.
- Cptmjl


The only way I see Strome going is if he's part of a package deal for a legit #1 "D" man. Or an elite veteran forward. Someone still in their 20's, 30 at best who's got plenty of game left and is willing to sign long term with us.

So I guess Strome is staying put.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 14 @ 11:01 AM ET
no sht... how about both... I'll even throw in a Kirill or 2.
- niteislander



huh? werent you just saying lee or nelson for 5+schenn was your offer?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 14 @ 11:01 AM ET
The only way I see Strome going is if he's part of a package deal for a legit #1 "D" man. Or an elite veteran forward. Someone still in their 20's, 30 at best who's got plenty of game left and is willing to sign long term with us.

So I guess Strome is staying put.

- SCLI



These are the things I would look for if we are trading Strome. I would rather not move him for another prospect or pick.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 14 @ 11:05 AM ET
When it comes to the draft nothing would surprise me. I would also take the players you mentioned over Forsberg.
- ses111


I think Forsberg would be a great pick for an established team. But in 3-4 yrs when Forsberg is likely ready to get a look at the NHL. I want the Isles to be set and settled for at least a few years. Not looking to add a rookie to the line up. Looking to compete.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:20 AM ET
huh? werent you just saying lee or nelson for 5+schenn was your offer?
- LetsGoIsles


yeah but that was as dumb as u said... LOL. My intention was to list why we would not make his trade then added that last sentence in a fit of Idiocy.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Jun 14 @ 11:22 AM ET
Well xXx named us the rascals so I don't see why adding wolfpac to the list of names would hurt?
- Cptmjl


The Wolfpac Rascals. YEah got a ring to it
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:26 AM ET
The Wolfpac Rascals. YEah got a ring to it
- kasperrko


How about the Debbie Downers .
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:27 AM ET
I sent a PM I'm dying to know
- Vukota



I know who it is, I'll give you a hint. He's talking to himself and it's really creepy.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:38 AM ET
I know who it is, I'll give you a hint. He's talking to himself and it's really creepy.
- canadianpenfan

This

Just

Made

My

Day.

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 14 @ 11:39 AM ET
I think Forsberg would be a great pick for an established team. But in 3-4 yrs when Forsberg is likely ready to get a look at the NHL. I want the Isles to be set and settled for at least a few years. Not looking to add a rookie to the line up. Looking to compete.
- SCLI


SCLI are you saying we are not an established team? You know how much I like the name Forsberg and any hockey player with the name Forsberg has to be a star.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 14 @ 11:47 AM ET
I know who it is, I'll give you a hint. He's talking to himself and it's really creepy.
- canadianpenfan



hahahaha....im shocked!!
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 14 @ 11:48 AM ET
I know who it is, I'll give you a hint. He's talking to himself and it's really creepy.
- canadianpenfan



never thought id be so happy to see a penguins fan in here....can you clean this up a little bit
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 14 @ 11:52 AM ET
i wonder what it would take to get evander kane....

the 4th and.....?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:52 AM ET
never thought id be so happy to see a penguins fan in here....can you clean this up a little bit
- LetsGoIsles



You folks don't need a babysitter, maybe a cage, but not a babysitter.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Jun 14 @ 11:54 AM ET
How about the Debbie Downers .
- niteislander


Debbie Downers? NAh that is Wang ans Snow and the circus. They have been Downers for years and have no motivation to get out of it
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