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XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 12:44 AM ET
I'm not around enough anymore to be a henchman.
Maybe a lackey?

- potvin05



Kind of like Eric Carins!!

XxNYIxX
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 14 @ 12:58 AM ET
This is the best way to treat the draft. You have a couple of guys you would like the Isles to draft and reserve judgement on others. You really need to wait a few years down the line to judge a draft. I never understood flipping out on draft night and making a judgement unless your team passed on a sure fire star and who all the experts say will be a star. Even then that star player can crash and burn.
- ses111

I mean if they pick Tom Wilson with the 4th overall you can bet I'm flipping sh!t, but to a degree yeah there's no reason to go nuts on draft night.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 14 @ 12:59 AM ET
I wanted Filatov too, I guess I learned a draft lesson on that one. I was working when they traded back and lost my shat
- Cptmjl

A lot of people did and a lot of people were wrong. To be honest, if we picked him and things turned out the way they did, I still wouldn't have blamed them for taking him. Luckily we didn't though.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:04 AM ET
A lot of people did and a lot of people were wrong. To be honest, if we picked him and things turned out the way they did, I still wouldn't have blamed them for taking him. Luckily we didn't though.
- eichiefs9



Could it be, our scouts & Snow... know what they are doing when it comes to drafting?


<-- Wanted Filitov as well

XxNYIxX
1since40
New York Islanders
Location: more to come, TX
Joined: 12.18.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:30 AM ET
I mean if they pick Tom Wilson with the 4th overall you can bet I'm flipping sh!t, but to a degree yeah there's no reason to go nuts on draft night.
- eichiefs9

Biff?!?!?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 14 @ 1:36 AM ET
Only one missing is....


Enough-


XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


I forgot about that guy.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 14 @ 1:42 AM ET
Biff?!?!?
- 1since40

lol what?
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 14 @ 2:21 AM ET
What would you guys say to a deal like this?

To Islanders: 1st Rounder 2012, Franson, Scrivens

To Toronto: Ryan Strome


*** Thus you get to draft ryan murray, matt dumba, franson NHL defender more than decent, and a goalie that dominated the AHL
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 2:34 AM ET
What would you guys say to a deal like this?

To Islanders: 1st Rounder 2012, Franson, Scrivens

To Toronto: Ryan Strome


*** Thus you get to draft ryan murray, matt dumba, franson NHL defender more than decent, and a goalie that dominated the AHL

- Mapleleafs_91



That's a real tempting deal.. being able to draft 4 & 5.. i think Murry will be gone by 4.. but being able to grab a player like Forsberg or Grigorenko & still be able to grab Dumba or Reinhart is pretty enticing.

I like Strome alot.. & i might pull the trigger on that deal... but i dont think Toronto would.

XxNYIxX
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 14 @ 2:40 AM ET
That's a real tempting deal.. being able to draft 4 & 5.. i think Murry will be gone by 4.. but being able to grab a player like Forsberg or Grigorenko & still be able to grab Dumba or Reinhart is pretty enticing.

I like Strome alot.. & i might pull the trigger on that deal... but i dont think Toronto would.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Actually toronto probably would or it might be a bit less though we get our center and you guys get your defense. Even if its just franson and another mid prospect you guys draft 2 defenders in matt dumba and ryan murray, franson added to that and we get our centerman. I would pull the trigger.

XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 2:49 AM ET
Actually toronto probably would or it might be a bit less though we get our center and you guys get your defense. Even if its just franson and another mid prospect you guys draft 2 defenders in matt dumba and ryan murray, franson added to that and we get our centerman. I would pull the trigger.
- Mapleleafs_91



but like i said.. i dont see Murray making it all the way to 4.. i hope he does.. but i doubt it.

XxNYIxX
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 14 @ 2:55 AM ET
but like i said.. i dont see Murray making it all the way to 4.. i hope he does.. but i doubt it.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


He probably will, columbus needs forwards. They will prob draft gal, montreal takes forsberg or grig, you guys take murray, you guys take dumba, and its a done deal. You have to base things on needs what the team needs, columbus does not need D nor does montreal.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 2:59 AM ET
He probably will, columbus needs forwards. They will prob draft gal, montreal takes forsberg or grig, you guys take murray, you guys take dumba, and its a done deal. You have to base things on needs what the team needs, columbus does not need D nor does montreal.
- Mapleleafs_91



If we grabbed Murray at 4 & had the #5 from you guys i could see us drafting Grigorenko to replace Strome as our future #2

XxNYIxX
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 14 @ 3:07 AM ET
If we grabbed Murray at 4 & had the #5 from you guys i could see us drafting Grigorenko to replace Strome as our future #2

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


That is true though if you drafted both dumba and murray then you have no need to worry about defense for a while and i highly doubt montreal takes forsberg over grig, forsberg is a bigger ? than grig i would say... hasnt really produced in statistics but has upside. My opinion you guys need defence bad, drafting both murray and dumba would be insane in a good way.

Murray Dumba

Streit Hamonic

Macdonald Katic ? Thats looking better
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 3:09 AM ET
That is true though if you drafted both dumba and murray then you have no need to worry about defense for a while and i highly doubt montreal takes forsberg over grig, forsberg is a bigger ? than grig i would say... hasnt really produced in statistics but has upside. My opinion you guys need defence bad, drafting both murray and dumba would be insane in a good way.

Murray Dumba

Streit Hamonic

Macdonald Katic ? Thats looking better

- Mapleleafs_91


I cant argue with that at all... Dumba isnt the polished/well rounded player Murray is, but he's a beast, the kind the Islanders havent had in a long long time.

XxNYIxX
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 14 @ 3:14 AM ET
I cant argue with that at all... Dumba isnt the polished/well rounded player Murray is, but he's a beast, the kind the Islanders havent had in a long long time.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Dumba is a beast and will be a good offensive defensemen for you guys and you guys get some toughness out of both murray and dumba. In the end if the islanders traded strome for 1st Rounder 2012, Franson+ they would be getting the help they need on D... islanders forwards between tavares, okposo, parenteau, moulson, bailey, grabner, niederreiter is enough upside with talent to progress to conceive 2 of your top lines.

Say you get franson in there as well:

Streit Franson

Murray Dumba

Hamonic Katic
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 3:20 AM ET
Dumba is a beast and will be a good offensive defensemen for you guys and you guys get some toughness out of both murray and dumba. In the end if the islanders traded strome for 1st Rounder 2012, Franson+ they would be getting the help they need on D... islanders forwards between tavares, okposo, parenteau, moulson, bailey, grabner, niederreiter is enough upside with talent to progress to conceive 2 of your top lines.

Say you get franson in there as well:

Streit Franson

Murray Dumba

Hamonic Katic

- Mapleleafs_91


Possible.... still dont think Murray will get past Columbus

Word is we are losing Parenteau to free agency too.

XxNYIxX
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 14 @ 3:22 AM ET
Possible.... still dont think Murray will get past Columbus

Word is we are losing Parenteau to free agency too.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Would suck to see ryan murray not make it to 4th, in my opinion im basing it on team needs and i would hate to see the islanders not get murray when both columbus and montreal need forwards. Where in my opinon i can see grig or galchenyuk not taken, its a tough decision though i base it on what the teams really need. If you guys lose parenteau, thats a tough loss, despite the fact he should be encouraged to stay since he played so well with tavares and moulson
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Jun 14 @ 4:47 AM ET
What would you guys say to a deal like this?

To Islanders: 1st Rounder 2012, Franson, Scrivens

To Toronto: Ryan Strome


*** Thus you get to draft ryan murray, matt dumba, franson NHL defender more than decent, and a goalie that dominated the AHL

- Mapleleafs_91



we don't need a goalie
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 14 @ 7:15 AM ET
I'm not around enough anymore to be a henchman.
Maybe a lackey?

- potvin05

I'll see what I can do?
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jun 14 @ 7:24 AM ET
I'll also take an established hopefully impact player. I may have fallen in love with the Forsberg name even though there is no relation.
- ses111

I don't want Forsberg. For some reason, I see Nino 2.0 written all over Forsberg. Nino is clearly going to be a project. I don't want to see them draft another one that won't help the team for a while and will likely be rushed by the organization.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 14 @ 8:07 AM ET
It seems from your postings that Murray won't be there at #4. If that is the case I think they need dto move up 2 spots and somehow get Columbus' pick. How about our #1 and our #3 pick to move up two spots...
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 8:15 AM ET
Kind of like Eric Carins!!

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

I am 6-foot-7, about 220, so yeah, I'd like that role!!
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 8:17 AM ET
I cant argue with that at all... Dumba isnt the polished/well rounded player Murray is, but he's a beast, the kind the Islanders havent had in a long long time.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

Anybody hear anything about Mayfield recently? He projects to be that type of player, I believe.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 14 @ 8:45 AM ET
I don't want Forsberg. For some reason, I see Nino 2.0 written all over Forsberg. Nino is clearly going to be a project. I don't want to see them draft another one that won't help the team for a while and will likely be rushed by the organization.
- Jethro09

I agree with everything in this post. One of Gally or Murray or Grigs would be best case scenario as far as I'm concerned.
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