] Lets be serious. Maybe JvR had some sort of personal thing planned.. a wedding he is in maybe, or planning to get engaged if he is dating someone... hell maybe even a vacation... I would think that he might wanna hold off his surgery so that he would be able to walk during that...

Or maybe its more of what Bill is saying..

Or maybe its a matter of him trying to rehab it.

Or maybe its a matter of him rehabbing a Upper body injury prior to going on crutches. A typical recovery time from labral repair can range from 6-12 weeks.. Usually its 7-9. Then there are the rare 4-5 weekers, or 12+ guys.. Id say JvR would be a 6-8 week deal. That would give him plenty of time to be ready for the start of the season.
- jak521

Exactly. There could be any one of dozens of legitimate reasons why JVR -- or the doctor or the facility -- would choose to reschedule the procedure. The specific reason really isn't important.

Sorry, my mistake. Schenn's only lead all defencemen in hits for the past two seasons.

Who cares how many games he played in his rookie and second year, the fact of the matter is that he's had a concussion, broken foot and now requires hip surgery. That's three decent injuries THIS SEASON. Sorry, but that would be considered "injury prone" among the majority of people.
- As_I_See_It

Got it. You dont want JVR... We dont want Schenn. Thanks for stopping by.

Supposedly the Jackets wanted Schenn or Couturier as part of the deal last season, and that was the killer. I see no reason why that would change.
- Jsaquella

Nash has a high cap hit and asked to be traded I can't see having to give up a Schenn or Couturier in a package to acquire him. What did NJ give up to get Kovalchuck? It is rare teams get major prospects and good young roster players back for players with high cap hits who want out.

It's possible that he'll get a long term deal that will lower his cap hit, but he's also the biggest prize in a weak UFA market, the team he's captain of made the SCF, He lacks the baggage Kovalchuk carries(unfairly, IMO) and you have teams like Detroit sitting there with $25mm in cap room next year.
- Jsaquella

Add to that: he's one of the best all-around players in the league and NJ is in financial trouble. I don't see how NJ will be able to keep him.

Sorry, my mistake. Schenn's only lead all defencemen in hits for the past two seasons.

Who cares how many games he played in his rookie and second year, the fact of the matter is that he's had a concussion, broken foot and now requires hip surgery. That's three decent injuries THIS SEASON. Sorry, but that would be considered "injury prone" among the majority of people.
- As_I_See_It

Not among people that deal with logic and facts. He broke his foot blocking a shot, and played through the hip injury and was at a 40 goal pace with it. The concussion wasn't what caused him to miss the most time, it was the foot, because it got infected after surgery.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, you must be the smart one around here!... Good point!

In that's the case, the Leafs have a few D that can QB a PP:
- Phaneuf
- Gardiner
- Liles
And to a lesser extent and likely #2 PP unite:
- Gunnarson
- Franson
- As_I_See_It

None of which I would be interested in going forward as the player to anchor the Flyers defense for the next 5 year or so. Not that they aren't good players.

Nash has a high cap hit and asked to be traded I can't see having to give up a Schenn or Couturier in a package to acquire him. What did NJ give up to get Kovalchuck? It is rare teams get major prospects and good young roster players back for players with high cap hits who want out.
- killercam

Kovalchuk had/has baggage. Nash is seen around the league as a "good Canadian boy" frustrated with a team managed by buffoons. Kovalchuk was seen-and is seen-as a lazy ass Russian who sulked his way out of Atlanta and only plays when he wants to.

Kovalchuk is playing with an injury that would likely keep him out if it wasn't the SCF, and he gets ripped for lack of effort. Nash, in the same situation would have Don Cherry whacking his bag every game night, celebrating his heroic efforts

Well Richards and Carter being traded an hour apart, means anything is possible. I just find it hard to fathom this franchise is going to drastically change course again. Some tweaks are needed, not an entire makeover.
- PLindbergh31

To me I think it can go either way. I will bet you Snider already has an idea what the new CBA will be. As far as owners go, Snider is one with more sway in the NHL, so I bet Homer has an idea of what is coming.

I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the show this off-season. If major moves are made, I will be happy. If no major moves are made, and we just sure up a few positions, I will still be happy. I can't say Homer has made too many deals I disagree with.

Not among people that deal with logic and facts. He broke his foot blocking a shot, and played through the hip injury and was at a 40 goal pace with it. The concussion wasn't what caused him to miss the most time, it was the foot, because it got infected after surgery.
- Jsaquella

Well apparently he's infection prone. No deal

Add to that: he's one of the best all-around players in the league and NJ is in financial trouble. I don't see how NJ will be able to keep him.
- Scoob

Depends a lot of NJ's finances. They got huge cash issues, if the reports are true.

Nash has a high cap hit and asked to be traded I can't see having to give up a Schenn or Couturier in a package to acquire him. What did NJ give up to get Kovalchuck? It is rare teams get major prospects and good young roster players back for players with high cap hits who want out.
- killercam

I personally wouldnt trade Schenn or Couturier to acquire Nash. His cap hit hurts his value imo. Very good player but not something that is a NEED for this team at the current moment.

Kovalchuk had/has baggage. Nash is seen around the league as a "good Canadian boy" frustrated with a team managed by buffoons. Kovalchuk was seen-and is seen-as a lazy ass Russian who sulked his way out of Atlanta and only plays when he wants to.

Kovalchuk is playing with an injury that would likely keep him out if it wasn't the SCF, and he gets ripped for lack of effort. Nash, in the same situation would have Don Cherry whacking his bag every game night, celebrating his heroic efforts
- Jsaquella

lol grapes

Depends a lot of NJ's finances. They got huge cash issues, if the reports are true.
- Jsaquella

I don't doubt they are true.

I don't doubt they are true.
- Scoob

I don't either, maybe the extent, but I'm sure they are cash strapped. Hard to fathom how a sports team could be $100mm in debt, even with attendance issues, with all the tax breaks sports teams get.

I don't doubt they are true.
- Scoob

If they win their next two games, a bunch of those financial issues can go away. I wouldn't put this comeback past them, all of a sudden Brodeur is outplaying Quick.

lol grapes
- OrangeBlack27

Grapes on grapes

Would you trade JvR straight up for Schenn?
- stveshdy

Don't get me wrong JvR is very talented and has great upside, but I wouldn't trade Schenn for JvR straight up until I was confident that JvR could demonstraight that he is fully recovered from his concussion, broken foot and future hip surgery.

So no, I personally wouldn't at this time. I also think this is the exact reason why Burke and Holmgren haven't made a trade for JVR/SchennIF there is actually one to be had and it's not just the regular rumors and speculation that floats around NHL discussion boards.

Depends a lot of NJ's finances. They got huge cash issues, if the reports are true.
- Jsaquella

They cant give away season tickets. I can't decide if you blame the franchise for pushing fans away with boring hockey, even though they win, or blame the fans that just wont buy tickets. All I know is, I get embarrassed for them with all those empty seats.. ... And yet they still have those cups... Disgusting.

Don't get me wrong JvR is very talented and has great upside, but I wouldn't trade Schenn for JvR straight up until I was confident that JvR could demonstraight that he is fully recovered from his concussion, broken foot and future hip surgery.

So no, I personally wouldn't at this time. I also think this is the exact reason why Burke and Holmgren haven't made a trade for JVR/SchennIF there is actually one to be had and it's not just the regular rumors and speculation that floats around NHL discussion boards.
- As_I_See_It

Even with all the injuries to JvR I don't think the Flyers would make that deal. The Flyers would be better off holding onto JvR and offering him in a bigger deal for a player like Weber, Seabrook, etc.

If they win their next two games, a bunch of those financial issues can go away.
- PLindbergh31

Temporarily, maybe. They're in a deep hole and their cash outlay to players next season is big. $11m alone to IK.

As for a full comeback - unfortunately I'm not ruling it out either. Would love to see it wrapped up tonight though.

Kovalchuk had/has baggage. Nash is seen around the league as a "good Canadian boy" frustrated with a team managed by buffoons. Kovalchuk was seen-and is seen-as a lazy ass Russian who sulked his way out of Atlanta and only plays when he wants to.

Kovalchuk is playing with an injury that would likely keep him out if it wasn't the SCF, and he gets ripped for lack of effort. Nash, in the same situation would have Don Cherry whacking his bag every game night, celebrating his heroic efforts
- Jsaquella

If there was ever a stereotypical russian super star.. Kovalchuk isnt him.

His desire to win is palpable. He has modified his own style of play for the betterment of the team.

Temporarily, maybe. They're in a deep hole and their cash outlay to players next season is big. $11m alone to IK.

As for a full comeback - unfortunately I'm not ruling it out either. Would love to see it wrapped up tonight though.
- Scoob

So would I. LA better get it done tonight, because I have zero faith they would win game 7 with all that momentum against them.

Not to mention NJ has no goaltenders under contract for next season. Have to figure Brodeur will be back on at least a one year deal. Amazing at 40 years old this guy is still better than most goaltenders in the NHL. Makes me sick.

If they win their next two games, a bunch of those financial issues can go away. I wouldn't put this comeback past them, all of a sudden Brodeur is outplaying Quick.
- PLindbergh31

They're not going to make $100mm off the one remaining playoff gate, and one has to wonder exactly how much a Stanley Cup would push ticket sales. This isn't Philly, where a title means 3 years of sellouts. The Devils have won Stanley Cups in the past and the attendance has never really gotten a huge uptick from it.

I do agree that Parise is likely to stay, because he likes it in NJ and obviously has a guy that can build championship teams. As long as NJ can stay in the neighborhood of offers from other teams, I think he stays

Do the Flyers really need more offense? Especially at 7mill per? I would say they are the deepest offensive team in the league, that money should be spent elsewhere imo.

Temporarily, maybe. They're in a deep hole and their cash outlay to players next season is big. $11m alone to IK.

As for a full comeback - unfortunately I'm not ruling it out either. Would love to see it wrapped up tonight though.
- Scoob

Kansas City Devils? or Quebec City Devils? Seattle Devils? Vegas Devils?