Nash will 90% be traded to the Rags. The injury to Gaborik makes them all the more desperate for offense.
- PLindbergh31

Possible. I still think SJ makes the move.

Don't really want a defenseman who was a healthy scratch at times during the season.
- NickTheKid87

So you're not interested in a 22 year old 6'2 230 lbs shutdown D-man who has already lead the league in hits and blocks loads of shots? He also just happens to be the brother of one of Philly's top future fowards, so you know the pedigree is there too.

L. Schenn was a healthy scratch 3 times last season and that was in the midst of Toronto's epic slide in that last two months of the season. It was also in due part to the fact that Toronto had 8 NHL ready D at the time, so they had options.
Let's also not forget that Wilson was desperate to save his job and that his style of coaching has never been suited to Schenn's. I'm guessing that a defense minded coach like Carlyle will do wonders for Schenn's overall play and confidence.

Believe me, the Leafs are happy to keep Schenn.

You mean his agent, former Flyer Petr Svoboda? The guy who just said he expects Voracek to be signed by the Flyers with very few issues?
- Jsaquella

Voracek is an RFA. Not much that can happen to make it difficult. Can always go the one year route again.

Possible. I still think SJ makes the move.
- stveshdy

If the Sharks are one thing, it's aggressive. Nash will be somewhere come July 1, and it won't be Columbus.

You mean his agent, former Flyer Petr Svoboda? The guy who just said he expects Voracek to be signed by the Flyers with very few issues?
- Jsaquella

Yes. I don't care what the agent says. It's the results that matter. I believe Homer set up his stance during his interview by attacking Voracek's offensive game. I can see the agent and Homer going back and forth on his worth. Maybe things work out with no problems but I personally dont think that happens. Just my thought.

You want the Flyers to pursue Parise. What do you think that's going to cost?
- MJL

id much rather have nash then parise in the 7mil catergory

So you're not interested in a 22 year old 6'2 230 lbs shutdown D-man who has already lead the league in hits and blocks loads of shots? He also just happens to be the brother of one of Philly's top future fowards, so you know the pedigree is there too.

L. Schenn was a healthy scratch 3 times last season and that was in the midst of Toronto's epic slide in that last two months of the season. It was also in due part to the fact that Toronto had 8 NHL ready D at the time, so they had options.
Let's also not forget that Wilson was desperate to save his job and that his style of coaching has never been suited to Schenn's. I'm guessing that a defense minded coach like Carlyle will do wonders for Schenn's overall play and confidence.

Believe me, the Leafs are happy to keep Schenn.
- As_I_See_It

When your putting your defense together, it's about the mix of players. The Flyers already have two fairly young, stay at home physical defensive defenseman, who they just signed to long term extensions. The need for the Flyers on the backend is a #1 type who can also QB a PP. So In my opinion, and I like Schenn, they don't currently have a need for that type of player.

Personally, I'd like to see them add a solid 4th/5th defenseman and a 4th line vet with a Stanley Cup ring, maybe move Bob and get a solid vet backup. And that is it.

Also, how does Travis Moen replace Jake Voracek? Moen is a perfect 4th line grinder, but he doesn't replace Voracek in any realm, offensively
- Jsaquella

I like Vorachek's enthusiasm. I'd hate to see him go. He seems like a guy his teammates root for.

Yes. I don't care what the agent says. It's the results that matter. I believe Homer set up his stance during his interview by attacking Voracek's offensive game. I can see the agent and Homer going back and forth on his worth. Maybe things word out with no problems but I personally dont think that happens. Just my thought.
- stveshdy

Voracek is a very important player for the Flyers. His one weakness right now is finishing. He can improve on that as he develops. I would like to see the Flyers lock him up long term.

You still have your first round pick this year?.....I thought you traded the next 10 years worth for Kessel
- Pyzik

Stale.

That horse is dead, you can stop beating it now.
The ball is in the net, you can stop kicking it now.

So you're not interested in a 22 year old 6'2 230 lbs shutdown D-man who has already lead the league in hits and blocks loads of shots? He also just happens to be the brother of one of Philly's top future fowards, so you know the pedigree is there too.

L. Schenn was a healthy scratch 3 times last season and that was in the midst of Toronto's epic slide in that last two months of the season. It was also in due part to the fact that Toronto had 8 NHL ready D at the time, so they had options.
Let's also not forget that Wilson was desperate to save his job and that his style of coaching has never been suited to Schenn's. I'm guessing that a defense minded coach like Carlyle will do wonders for Schenn's overall play and confidence.

Believe me, the Leafs are happy to keep Schenn.
- As_I_See_It

Just because they are brohters doesnt mean they are both elite hockey talents...

think, Marcel and Gilbert Dionne.....and Wayne and Brent Gretzky, The older brothers were stellar the younger not so much.

Nash will 90% be traded to the Rags. The injury to Gaborik makes them all the more desperate for offense.
- PLindbergh31

I would be completely on board with Nash in NY. They would have all thier cap space tied up into 6 players. They wont be able to afford the raises their D deserves...

Voracek is an RFA. Not much that can happen to make it difficult. Can always go the one year route again.
- MJL

When I say difficult I mean agreeing on the number the Flyers would like. They may have to overpay (just my guess).

Voracek is a very important player for the Flyers. His one weakness right now is finishing. He can improve on that as he develops. I would like to see the Flyers lock him up long term.
- PLindbergh31

I agree. I think Voracek is a big part of this teams future. Would like to see a long term deal done as well.

So you're not interested in a 22 year old 6'2 230 lbs shutdown D-man who has already lead the league in hits and blocks loads of shots? He also just happens to be the brother of one of Philly's top future fowards, so you know the pedigree is there too.

L. Schenn was a healthy scratch 3 times last season and that was in the midst of Toronto's epic slide in that last two months of the season. It was also in due part to the fact that Toronto had 8 NHL ready D at the time, so they had options.
Let's also not forget that Wilson was desperate to save his job and that his style of coaching has never been suited to Schenn's. I'm guessing that a defense minded coach like Carlyle will do wonders for Schenn's overall play and confidence.

Believe me, the Leafs are happy to keep Schenn.
- As_I_See_It

That's fantastic, because several people have made it relatively clear we're not particularly interested in him.

When I say difficult I mean agreeing on the number the Flyers would like. They may have to overpay (just my guess).
- stveshdy

I personally don't beleive it's going to be difficult. Voracek doesn't have a lot of leverage.

If the Sharks are one thing, it's aggressive. Nash will be somewhere come July 1, and it won't be Columbus.
- PLindbergh31

They might wait until after July 1 in hopes to get more interest from the teams that didn't snag Parise....

I would be completely on board with Nash in NY. They would have all thier cap space tied up into 6 players. They wont be able to afford the raises their D deserves...
- RooNosHockey

It seems likely to me that it will happen. If it does hopefully Howson gets a fair return. It might be hard for him to get a fair deal being everyone in the League knows Nash has to be moved.

When your putting your defense together, it's about the mix of players. The Flyers already have two fairly young, stay at home physical defensive defenseman, who they just signed to long term extensions. The need for the Flyers on the backend is a #1 type who can also QB a PP. So In my opinion, and I like Schenn, they don't currently have a need for that type of player.
- MJL

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, you must be the smart one around here!... Good point!

In that's the case, the Leafs have a few D that can QB a PP:
- Phaneuf
- Gardiner
- Liles
And to a lesser extent and likely #2 PP unite:
- Gunnarson
- Franson

id much rather have nash then parise in the 7mil catergory
- mydoglicks

Nash would cost you JVR, Schenn, Bob, and a pick plus almost 8 million in cap. Parise will only cost you the cap hit. I would rather have Parise and use the above guys to get a Number 1 D-man.

JVR's a bum. Delaying surgury so he doesn't get traded.

Probably likes beers and pretty ladies too.

So you're not interested in a 22 year old 6'2 230 lbs shutdown D-man who has already lead the league in hits and blocks loads of shots? He also just happens to be the brother of one of Philly's top future fowards, so you know the pedigree is there too.

L. Schenn was a healthy scratch 3 times last season and that was in the midst of Toronto's epic slide in that last two months of the season. It was also in due part to the fact that Toronto had 8 NHL ready D at the time, so they had options.
Let's also not forget that Wilson was desperate to save his job and that his style of coaching has never been suited to Schenn's. I'm guessing that a defense minded coach like Carlyle will do wonders for Schenn's overall play and confidence.

Believe me, the Leafs are happy to keep Schenn.
- As_I_See_It

If the Flyers wanted Luke Schenn, they would have had him last year.

He's never lead the league in hits, BTW. Last year he was 7th, 104 behind league leader Matt Martin of th Islanders.

Schenn is a good, very solid young defenseman. However, with Meszaros, Coburn and Grossmann already on board, not sure I see a need for another defense first defenseman. He is more physical than those three, but as far as blocked shots go, Schenn would have been 5th on the Flyers last year, behind Carle, Timonen, Grossmann and Coburn.

Let's not forget that JvR is also a pretty big kid (6'3" 200), who has a 20 goal season on his resume at age 22, and was on pace for 40 goals last year before getting sidetracked by injuries.

Oh, and that injury prone stuff? That's bullpoop. JvR missed 7 games in his rookie year and 3 in his second year before last year.

I personally don't beleive it's going to be difficult. Voracek doesn't have a lot of leverage.
- MJL

Understandable. Not everyone has to agree with it.

id much rather have nash then parise in the 7mil catergory
- mydoglicks

Parise is a pipe dream. He's not signing with the Flyers, nor should the Flyers be interested in him. He's a fantastic player, but there are more pressing needs.

That's fantastic, because several people have made it relatively clear we're not particularly interested in him.
- BulliesPhan87

... But only if you can dump a fragile injury prone winger who is signed until 2017-2018 and carries a cap hit of $4.25M, right?