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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
To get web hits and attention. Eskin likes being the center of attention. It's why he's had the success he's had.
- Jsaquella


Dont disagree with what your saying but if you continue to say things and miss people start to discredit what you say. I dont see Howard laying himself out there to be that kind of souce.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
I don't have an agenda here.

Just passing along some very interesting stuff I've heard from someone I really respect.

- LordStanley88

I enjoy it. Much better than reading proposed trade cap ramifications on NHL 12
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 11 @ 1:02 PM ET
Dont disagree with what your saying but if you continue to say things and miss people start to discredit what you say. I dont see Howard laying himself out there to be that kind of souce.
- stveshdy


I don't necessarily doubt him, just not sure I buy the circumstances around it.

I mean, even if JvR is refusing the surgery, it's not some radical procedure like Emery had. A labrum surgery is relatively minor and common place. Not sure how that alone kills a deal.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 11 @ 1:03 PM ET
My conspiracy theory is as follows:

Homer is secretly working with howson to artificially increase Nash's trade value. This will cause the rangers to go all in on Nash...which will in turn destroy the rangers...

Homer is using the above to artificially raise the value of JVR, thus getting weber...

I think we can all officially call Homer the "godfather" of the NHL.


- Philly1980


I guess that means JVR is going to win the Cup in Nashville next year then...
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 11 @ 1:03 PM ET
I don't necessarily doubt him, just not sure I buy the circumstances around it.

I mean, even if JvR is refusing the surgery, it's not some radical procedure like Emery had. A labrum surgery is relatively minor and common place. Not sure how that alone kills a deal.

- Jsaquella


Got ya. This is going to be a very exciting offseason. Will have answers soon enough.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 11 @ 1:04 PM ET
so now its "JVR is refusing to have surgery"?

Bullpoop.

Anyone who believes this nonsense needs to get their heads examined.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 11 @ 1:04 PM ET
I guess that means JVR is going to win the Cup in Nashville next year then...
- RooNosHockey


i dunno how far they go with just suter. I do think that with the flyers adding weber they are instantly a cup favorite next year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
so now its "JVR is refusing to have surgery"?

Bullpoop.

Anyone who believes this nonsense needs to get their heads examined.

- MBFlyerfan


I refuse to have my head examined because I don;t want to go to Delaware
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
so now its "JVR is refusing to have surgery"?

Bullpoop.

Anyone who believes this nonsense needs to get their heads examined.

- MBFlyerfan

+1 X2
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
I don't necessarily doubt him, just not sure I buy the circumstances around it.

I mean, even if JvR is refusing the surgery, it's not some radical procedure like Emery had. A labrum surgery is relatively minor and common place. Not sure how that alone kills a deal.

- Jsaquella

Exactly why I referenced Versteeg earlier.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
I refuse to have my head examined because I don;t want to go to Delaware
- Jsaquella


stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 11 @ 1:06 PM ET
so now its "JVR is refusing to have surgery"?

Bullpoop.

Anyone who believes this nonsense needs to get their heads examined.

- MBFlyerfan


Is it 100% that JvR needs to have this surgery? If he needs the surgery then its a non issue. If he has a choice to have the surgery or not then it makes alittle sense. I dont think a player refuses surgery to not be traded, that idea just sounds crazy in itself.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 11 @ 1:06 PM ET
I refuse to have my head examined because I don;t want to go to Delaware
- Jsaquella



Just like JVR in feb.....except he didnt want to go to toronto lol
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 11 @ 1:06 PM ET

- RooNosHockey


Don't feel bad, I don't want to go to Pennsylvania, either. Or even my front lawn for what it's worth. Too damned hot
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 11 @ 1:06 PM ET
I refuse to have my head examined because I don;t want to go to Delaware
- Jsaquella


I have to be there twice a week as it is. I don't blame you at all.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 11 @ 1:07 PM ET
I have to be there twice a week as it is. I don't blame you at all.

- MBFlyerfan


I'll be there next Thursday, driving through at 85 mph on my way to FLA
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 11 @ 1:07 PM ET
Don't feel bad, I don't want to go to Pennsylvania, either. Or even my front lawn for what it's worth. Too damned hot
- Jsaquella


Ha. I knew you were a shut-in with nothing better to do!
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 11 @ 1:09 PM ET
Ha. I knew you were a shut-in with nothing better to do!
- RooNosHockey

He prefers recluse
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 11 @ 1:11 PM ET
He prefers recluse
- jak521


Sorry. I don't understand all this PC stuff.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 11 @ 1:12 PM ET
I have no idea whether what your saying is true or untrue. All I know is that when your joe schmo who claims to have a source that you can't reveal, will never come off as being credible, and tends to make a person look foolish. So why say anything if you can't share the source and offer proof. It's just opening yourself up to criticism.
- MJL


I understand, that's why I'm saying take it with a grain of salt. I fully understand that people aren't going to think the info is credible.

However, I do honeslty trust the person telling me this, and Eskin is never wrong about this kind of stuff either.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 11 @ 1:13 PM ET
Is it 100% that JvR needs to have this surgery? If he needs the surgery then its a non issue. If he has a choice to have the surgery or not then it makes alittle sense. I dont think a player refuses surgery to not be traded, that idea just sounds crazy in itself.
- stveshdy


And it makes a hell of a lot more sense if his doctor said your foot is still infected, it wouldn't be a good idea to have surgery right now. Its JVR's doctor. And no matter who is paying for it, in the end the doctor doesn't have to tell the team unless JVR says so.

So if some mail room boy over hears a conversation where JVR says, "I don't want to have the surgery right now"......no context, not hearing what was said before or after...he tells Eskin, and Eskin says JVR "HOLDING UP" surgery.

(the above is probably way more accurate than anything else spewed out there today.)

Eskin could have worded it differently, but he wants the hits and the controversy. Because NOW, we are all talking about JVR "REFUSING" to have surgery, and that it was Eskin who said it. Its a joke.

Anyway:

Dave Isaac ‏@davegisaac

Can confirm @sbaickerCSN's report that JVR's hip surgery is delayed because his foot is still infected. Should have a story up soon w/ more.






LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 11 @ 1:13 PM ET
It's a big deal to Nashville. They're demanding he have it.

However, JVR refused to get it done last year when the Flyers recommended it too.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 11 @ 1:13 PM ET
I understand, that's why I'm saying take it with a grain of salt. I fully understand that people aren't going to think the info is credible.

However, I do honeslty trust the person telling me this, and Eskin is never wrong about this kind of stuff either.

- LordStanley88


We could use Weber. Thats adding a NEED.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 11 @ 1:14 PM ET
I understand, that's why I'm saying take it with a grain of salt. I fully understand that people aren't going to think the info is credible.

However, I do honeslty trust the person telling me this, and Eskin is never wrong about this kind of stuff either.

- LordStanley88


At least tell us how your "source" is connected to this knowledge. Ex-Flyer? Current Employee? Current Player? Imaginary Friend? Media?
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 11 @ 1:16 PM ET
At least tell us how your "source" is connected to this knowledge. Ex-Flyer? Current Employee? Current Player? Imaginary Friend? Media?
- RooNosHockey


Why does it matter?

If you want the truth, just wait and see what transpires in the next few weeks.
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