Thats what you have to offer when your a cap floor team who finished almost last for a decade with a short bus crippled goalie who is stealing money from the team.
- poisondhearts37

If that isn't bad enough, I still think they are paying for Yashin.

If that isn't bad enough, I still think they are paying for Yashin.
- Oneonta Penguin

i think this last yr was it

If they cap is raised he probably can be moved. But how would a GM exlain trading for a below average 5mil per year player.
- sbroads24

He's not below average, he is also not really worth 5M. He's a good defenseman playing in a system that is not conducive to his skill set.

if staal does leave pitt then stoll is a guy i would like to see replace him
- drummer829

I traditionally dont like signing cup winning players because a) they are over priced and b) I think they might lose an edge after winning and going through the long season, but he has impressed me as a 3rd line center.

I want Jarret Stoll
- sbroads24

I really think he stays in LA win or lose. And i hope he does. But there is always gonna be a team to pay him more. He hasnt been stellar in the circle in this series. Getting beat left and right by rookie henrique.

Tallon did that with many players to put a product on the ice so he doesnt have to rush his drafted kids. Theyre still in a good spot salary wise.
- poisondhearts37

who knows, maybe if garrison doesnt stay then they may like martin

i think this last yr was it
- poisondhearts37

Try 2014-2015 haha.

If they cap is raised he probably can be moved. But how would a GM exlain trading for a below average 5mil per year player.
- sbroads24

Cap is going up. Paul Martin doesn't fit in the Pens' system (whatever that is). He was a very solid blueliner prior to his arrival. He wasn't below average prior to Pittsburgh. His contract is problematic, but he would still be a top two D-pairing for maybe five teams.

man, Dustin Brown looks hurt..not like him self out there...Devils are turning the tide...

Try 2014-2015 haha.
- Gunner Staal

LOL. Atleast it isnt impeding them from making a big FA signing.

i think this last yr was it
- poisondhearts37

Even so, pretty sad, right? He hasn't played in the NHL for five years.

He's not below average, he is also not really worth 5M. He's a good defenseman playing in a system that is not conducive to his skill set.
- Gunner Staal

What I have been saying the entire year.

man, Dustin Brown looks hurt..not like him self out there...Devils are turning the tide...
- Canuckfan2006

We outplayed them tonight. They just keep getting the bounces. Hence the Kings scoring on themselves.

I really think he stays in LA win or lose. And i hope he does. But there is always gonna be a team to pay him more. He hasnt been stellar in the circle in this series. Getting beat left and right by rookie henrique.
- poisondhearts37

He's a Sabre. Its already a done deal.

He's a Sabre. Its already a done deal.
- sbroads24

here it from ek?

He's not below average, he is also not really worth 5M. He's a good defenseman playing in a system that is not conducive to his skill set.
- Gunner Staal

Its still tought to move him. I remeber you saying how you wouldnt take on Vanek's contract, and he's a 30 goal scorer. It's not a move thats easy to make. Martin had a horrid season with a bad contract.

He's a Sabre. Its already a done deal.
- sbroads24

You must be talking about that worthless body named Gaustad.

He was actually a good pick up for them, and then go figure, he catches the injury bug and doesn't really make any impact.
- Gunner Staal

It's like he has first year curse at every new club he goes to.

Its still tought to move him. I remeber you saying how you wouldnt take on Vanek's contract, and he's a 30 goal scorer. It's not a move thats easy to make. Martin had a horrid season with a bad contract.
- sbroads24

it wasnt awful. finished a +8 with like 25 points i think

What I have been saying the entire year.
- Oneonta Penguin

The year before he was fine, then a change of system due to the roster being close to 100%, well we saw 2012

it wasnt awful. finished a +8 with like 25 points i think
- drummer829

He was double digit minus there for a while so it shows you how scoring goals can cover some deficiencies up, he did improve but then having #87 back inflated a few other players numbers too.

He was double digit minus there for a while so it shows you how scoring goals can cover some deficiencies up, he did improve but then having #87 back inflated a few other players numbers too.
- walshy66

shhh...dont let them know he was in the negatives

shhh...dont let them know he was in the negatives
- drummer829

Oops...

TOR: Staal
PIT: Schenn, Biggs, 2nd rounder, 3rd rounder

Maybe??

TOR: Staal
PIT: Schenn, Deschamps, 2nd rounder, 3rd rounder

Maybe??
- OilerFanFromBC

TOR:staal
PIT: schenn, Deschamps, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, and conditional 1st