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TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
He compares himself to giroux
- ystoil

We should be so lucky. But out of all our current CHL prospects he intrigues me the most. Him and Gernat.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
Oilers fans would not like what we would have to give up to pick 8th. They would like even less what it would take to get high enough to get Galchenyuk. As Ive said numerous times, the asking price to grab our 1st overall will be an overpayment. The same goes for any pick in the top 3 or even 5.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Oh I agree. And the chance of it happening is slim. The oilers won't trade players they feel are special so if they don't make a move to jump up in the draft Id still feel comfortable as they have confidence in our prospects. Wasn't the price to pick 4th in 2010 Jordan eberle? Was that an overpayment at the time? 4th picks usually turn out better than late firsts. I trust they know who to trade and who not to. I wish it was draft day already. I keep busy by coming up with unlikely scenarios
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 9 @ 2:13 PM ET
We should be so lucky. But out of all our current CHL prospects he intrigues me the most. Him and Gernat.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


If the Slovakian towers add weight I don't see why theycant produce offense for us in a few years. I hope they put both gernat and rieder back in jr.
mbell
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.14.2012

Jun 9 @ 2:27 PM ET
Rieder had a fantastic year - his value is likely at a high point. Trading him now makes sense, as we need to fill other holes - the point of this rebuild is to acquire assets and turn those assets into what we don't have.....that time is now.

Rieder is interesting - but he will have to play in the top 6. Can anyone see him playing ahead of Eberle and Yakapov???

Other point is we need to obtain top pairing offensive D - and you can't acquire these players once they develop - what would be the price for OEM now???

Move the assets and get the pick - Morgan Rielly is the player I'd select. He reminds me of OEM - and a little of Paul Coffey...just saying
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 9 @ 2:28 PM ET
If the Slovakian towers add weight I don't see why theycant produce offense for us in a few years. I hope they put both gernat and rieder back in jr.
- ystoil

Marincin better not (frank) around again this summer. He needs to put in some serious time in the gym after messing around last year
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 9 @ 2:31 PM ET
Rieder had a fantastic year - his value is likely at a high point. Trading him now makes sense, as we need to fill other holes - the point of this rebuild is to acquire assets and turn those assets into what we don't have.....that time is now.

Rieder is interesting - but he will have to play in the top 6. Can anyone see him playing ahead of Eberle and Yakapov???

Other point is we need to obtain top pairing offensive D - and you can't acquire these players once they develop - what would be the price for OEM now???

Move the assets and get the pick - Morgan Rielly is the player I'd select. He reminds me of OEM - and a little of Paul Coffey...just saying

- mbell

Who is OEM?
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 9 @ 2:49 PM ET
Oilers fans would not like what we would have to give up to pick 8th. They would like even less what it would take to get high enough to get Galchenyuk. As Ive said numerous times, the asking price to grab our 1st overall will be an overpayment. The same goes for any pick in the top 3 or even 5.
- TheTaoOfSemenko



1st overall + for the 5th overall.


laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 9 @ 2:52 PM ET
He compares himself to giroux
- ystoil


Seems modest of him.
randycane
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: United States, NC
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 9 @ 2:59 PM ET
Good choices overall! no major disagreements, but a few different ideas...
Aberg ahead of (in place of) Collberg, Laughton near 20~, and Pouliot ahead of him (around 12~).
I won't be surprised if a few trades occur during the draft, but also think we'll see a couple soon after the Cup Final!!
TaterNuts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Tofino, BC
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 9 @ 3:06 PM ET
Seems modest of him.
- laughs2907


I wonder if he'll try to annex all the dressing room changing stalls. Those Germans are shifty people.
mbell
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.14.2012

Jun 9 @ 3:07 PM ET
Who is OEM?
- Ihatebrianburke


Oliver Eckman Larson...from Phoenix
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 9 @ 3:13 PM ET
Oliver Eckman Larson...from Phoenix
- mbell

So where do you get the M from?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 9 @ 3:31 PM ET
So where do you get the M from?
- Ihatebrianburke


HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 9 @ 3:33 PM ET
We should be so lucky. But out of all our current CHL prospects he intrigues me the most. Him and Gernat.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Klefboms' the guy im excited about...

Gernat is a long way away i think.
Although Hes got size, can skate and has offensive ability with tons of upside, he looks so rough around the edges. Really raw.
Bad decisions, lots of mistakes and mediocre in his own end.

Of course its all just guess work, and Maybe his learning curve isnt too long and he'll figure it out sooner rather than later.
But if i had to guess, id say we wont be seeing him in our top 6 for at least 2 full seasons.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 9 @ 3:45 PM ET
Rieder had a fantastic year - his value is likely at a high point. Trading him now makes sense, as we need to fill other holes - the point of this rebuild is to acquire assets and turn those assets into what we don't have.....that time is now.

Rieder is interesting - but he will have to play in the top 6. Can anyone see him playing ahead of Eberle and Yakapov???

Other point is we need to obtain top pairing offensive D - and you can't acquire these players once they develop - what would be the price for OEM now???

Move the assets and get the pick - Morgan Rielly is the player I'd select. He reminds me of OEM - and a little of Paul Coffey...just saying

- mbell

If he continues to improve and there's nothing that suggests he won't, then his value will become greater. And that'd two spots. A lot easier to interchange wings than it is to move to center. Nothing is set in stone with this kid but overreating could wind up with egg on the face. Patience is needed in a rebuild as well. Calgary once released Martin St.Louis . Much evil can come from hasty and reactionary moves.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 9 @ 3:48 PM ET
Gernat is a long way away i think. Hes got size, can skate and has offensive ability, tons of upside. but at the moment, he looks so rough around the edges. Really raw.
Bad decisions, lots of mistakes and mediocre in his own end.

Of course its all just guess work, and Maybe his learning curve isnt too long and he'll figure it out sooner rather than later.
But if i had to guess, id say we wont be seeing him in our top 6 for at least 2 full seasons.

- hugefemale dog77

Petry looked truly horrid at the beginning of the season. You never know when they'll just start figuring it out. Dmen and goalies typically follow a different learning curve.

But I do agree, Gernat has a ways yet but the raw ability is there. I didn't pencil these guys into the lineup, I just said they intrigue me.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 9 @ 3:54 PM ET
Gernat is a long way away i think. Hes got size, can skate and has offensive ability, tons of upside. but at the moment, he looks so rough around the edges. Really raw.
Bad decisions, lots of mistakes and mediocre in his own end.

Of course its all just guess work, and Maybe his learning curve isnt too long and he'll figure it out sooner rather than later.
But if i had to guess, id say we wont be seeing him in our top 6 for at least 2 full seasons.

- hugefemale dog77

Thats exactly what I was thinking. One more year in junior and a year in the ahl then he might be ready
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 9 @ 4:00 PM ET
Petry looked truly horrid at the beginning of the season. You never know when they'll just start figuring it out. Dmen and goalies typically follow a different learning curve.

But I do agree, Gernat has a ways yet but the raw ability is there. I didn't pencil these guys into the lineup, I just said they intrigue me.

- TheTaoOfSemenko


For sure. Just sayin while i thought he showed some obvious flair, he looked far less polished than pysyk and even the younger reinhart.

I think he could be an absolute gem, or a total bust
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:04 PM ET
For sure. Just sayin while i thought he showed some obvious flair, he looked far less polished than pysyk and even the younger reinhart.

I think he could be an absolute gem, or a total bust

- hugefemale dog77

Boom.

Feelings on Ewanyk?
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 9 @ 4:10 PM ET
Boom.

Feelings on Ewanyk?

- TheTaoOfSemenko

Between him and Lander hopefully one of the two can turn into a quality third line centre for us
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
Boom.

Feelings on Ewok?

- TheTaoOfSemenko



HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
Boom.

Feelings on Ewanyk?

- TheTaoOfSemenko


Dont really know enough about him to make an educated guess. Was hurt for so long and didnt really seem to play a prominent role on the oil kings in the mem cup. Hes obviously a hard working, physical, grinder type. And does that well. Hes 6'2, so hes got some size too. Grinders that can skate abit are never bad to have in your system.

I liked pelss more than him actually. Or maybe just noticed him more.

At the end of the day Henrik samuelsson was the only oil king forward that really looked dangerous and stood out every game imo.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 9 @ 4:23 PM ET
Between him and Lander hopefully one of the two can turn into a quality third line centre for us
- Ihatebrianburke


If i had to guess; ewanyk 4th line, lander 3rd.

Travis is more physical, anton more talented.

Just sayin as i haven seen ewanyk much.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 9 @ 4:48 PM ET
Any love for Dillon Simpson?
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 9 @ 5:20 PM ET
Any love for Dillon Simpson?
- Jack-artist

No
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