Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Carle, Tagging Space, Alumni
Author Message
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 7:36 PM ET
But ask yourself if your Chicago, do you do that deal?
- MJL


I think their getting back a solid group.

Mez can definately step in and play. They add a very good winger in JvR. They get another 1st rounder (pick #20). Thats not a bad offer at all. This would allow them to move Kane if they like. They then could go out and get a true #1 goalie. I don't know if they consider Seabrook untouchable (willing to find out though) but I think thats a reasonable offer (they could add other things to make it work).
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 7:39 PM ET
I think their getting back a solid group.

Mez can definately step in and play. They add a very good winger in JvR. They get another 1st rounder (pick #20). Thats not a bad offer at all. This would allow them to move Kane if they like. They then could go out and get a true #1. I don't know if they consider Seabrook untouchable but I think thats a reasonable offer.

- stveshdy


I agree, it's a solid offer. But I think that Seabrooke is a true #1. And he's signed to a solid deal for 3 or 4 more Seasons. Seabrooke can play in all situations, can provide points, has a nasty physical game, blocks a lot of shots. If Suter had the same game as Seabrooke does. I'd say screw Carle and let's sign Seabrooke at what ever it takes.
So I don't know how eager Chicago would be to part with that well rounded of a defenseman.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 7:40 PM ET
I agree, it's a solid offer. But I think that Seabrooke is a true #1. And he's signed to a solid deal for 3 or 4 more Seasons. Seabrooke can play in all situations, can provide points, has a nasty physical game, blocks a lot of shots. If Suter had the same game as Seabrooke does. I'd say screw Carle and let's sign Seabrooke at what ever it takes.
So I don't know how eager Chicago would be to part with that well rounded of a defenseman.

- MJL


I completely agree but I think its worth a call if I'm Homer. The worse that happens is Chicago says "No, hes not available".
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 7:43 PM ET
I completely agree but I think its worth a call if I'm Homer. The worse that happens is Chicago says "No, hes not available".
- stveshdy


It's always worth a call. But if I'm Chicago, I'm not trading Seabrooke unless I'm blown away by the offer. And although that's a nice offer, I don't think it will accomplish that.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 7:45 PM ET
It's always worth a call.
- MJL


Always.

I know Jsaquella said he heard something about Chicago maybe making some big changes. So you never know unless you call and find out.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 8 @ 7:49 PM ET
Always.

I know Jsaquella said he heard something about Chicago maybe making some big changes. So you never know unless you call and find out.

- stveshdy

I do like the deal you put out on the table. Like it has been stated many a time, this offseason could be wacky taffy
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 7:53 PM ET
I do like the deal you put out on the table. Like it has been stated many a time, this offseason could be wacky taffy
- bigmookalookie


Homer evaluates a NEED and attacks it. Thats the way the Flyers organization does things. They dont sit on their hands and wait patiently not their M.O. I expect something to happen this summer.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 8 @ 7:57 PM ET
Homer evaluates a NEED and attacks it. Thats the way the Flyers organization does things. They dont sit on their hands and wait patiently not their M.O. I expect something to happen this summer.
- stveshdy

Oh I agree 100 percent. Holmgren will look at all possible avenues to address the situation. I really do think Bob will be traded during the draft, but thats just me.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:02 PM ET
had to do another one:

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jaromir Jagr ($3.300m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.250m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Jim Slater ($1.300m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) / Eric Wellwood ($0.580m)
DEFENSEMEN
Matt Carle ($4.750m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Milan Jurcina ($1.900m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Chris Mason ($0.850m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,352,500; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $947,500
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:02 PM ET
Oh I agree 100 percent. Holmgren will look at all possible avenues to address the situation. I really do think Bob will be traded during the draft, but thats just me.
- bigmookalookie


I think Bob will be gone also. The Flyers organization seems to have lost some faith in Bob. If they truely believed in him I dont think they would of signed Bryz to that huge contract last summer. I would try to get something for him at the draft but I wouldnt just give him away either.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 8 @ 8:07 PM ET
Big al at cherry hill b&n. As in now

Book signing w Lyons.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 8 @ 8:08 PM ET
had to do another one:

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jaromir Jagr ($3.300m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.250m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Jim Slater ($1.300m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) / Eric Wellwood ($0.580m)
DEFENSEMEN
Matt Carle ($4.750m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Milan Jurcina ($1.900m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Chris Mason ($0.850m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,352,500; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $947,500

- flyerscup2011


Don't forget that Schenn's cap hit will actually be about half that once he doesn't meet the requirement of playing 25 minutes in every game.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 8 @ 8:14 PM ET
had to do another one:

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jaromir Jagr ($3.300m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.250m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Jim Slater ($1.300m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) / Eric Wellwood ($0.580m)
DEFENSEMEN
Matt Carle ($4.750m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Milan Jurcina ($1.900m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Chris Mason ($0.850m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,352,500; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $947,500

- flyerscup2011


FWIW, Eklund has Flyers in front on Gregory Campbell of the Bruins. If that's right, hopefully it's to get a favorable review from the league when necessary. I kid, but if that panned out, where would he fit?
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:19 PM ET
FWIW, Eklund has Flyers in front on Gregory Campbell of the Bruins. If that's right, hopefully it's to get a favorable review from the league when necessary. I kid, but if that panned out, where would he fit?
- wilsonecho91


his signing would preclude the slater signing and i guess that would move talbot to 4th line center and campbell would play on talbot's wing
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 8 @ 8:23 PM ET
I say we stand pat and they will get weber near the trade deadline
huks99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Austin, TX
Joined: 10.05.2007

Jun 8 @ 8:25 PM ET
What's your idea?
- MJL

Hula hoops for everyone!!!!
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
Jvr mezzy and 2 1st for weber ??
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:28 PM ET
Jvr mezzy and 2 1st for weber ??
- griouxmvp2012


i'd make that trade
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 8 @ 8:30 PM ET
i'd make that trade
- flyerscup2011

That's 4 first rounders same as pronger trade
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:46 PM ET
That's 4 first rounders same as pronger trade
- griouxmvp2012


true. that's actually a better deal than anaheim got for pronger. lupul and sbisa are good, but i'd never trade lupul and sbisa for jvr and mesz
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 8 @ 8:52 PM ET
true. that's actually a better deal than anaheim got for pronger. lupul and sbisa are good, but i'd never trade lupul and sbisa for jvr and mesz
- flyerscup2011

I would do it. To me g coots and schenner are untouchable. Schenn had a rough year but it was his first season he is gonna be a beast No way would I give him up
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:53 PM ET
Jvr mezzy and 2 1st for weber ??
- griouxmvp2012


Personally I think it would take more. There will be multiple teams bidding for Weber if he becomes available. Just my opinion of course.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 8 @ 8:56 PM ET
Personally I think it would take more. There will be multiple teams bidding for Weber if he becomes available. Just my opinion of course.
- stveshdy

You could be rite
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:59 PM ET
You could be rite
- griouxmvp2012


We're talking about an elite defenseman in his prime. It cost a lot to get an old Pronger. Weber would/is going to fetch a ridiculous amount for the Preds.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 8 @ 9:01 PM ET
Personally I think it would take more. There will be multiple teams bidding for Weber if he becomes available. Just my opinion of course.
- stveshdy

Seems like a fair trade and the 2013 draft class is supposed to be deep. But is the flyers resign jags and carle I don't think they will be doin much unless it's a trade
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17  Next