Luongo won't get the same return as those guys, because of his terrible contract. The Leafs and panthers know there isn't many teams in the running, no way they will give up a lot.
- Allstarzz

Some insiders feel Lu may only play 4-5 more years at a long shot he plays 7 more. My feeling is 5 .

I'm just finding it interesting that a lot of Leaf fans want to give nothing for Luongo, but when a report comes out that Florida might be the front runner, we get a bunch more Leaf fan offers. Now Franson is the center piece and not Armstrong/Connelly/Komiserek. Is playoff panic starting to set in?
- fiveandagame

I just think Leafs fans are a little panicked that Burke might actually trade for Lu....therefor they don't want to give up anything.

Adding Franson isn't really upping it all that much, there's high hopes for him but there's high hopes for every young player on that roster. Leafs fans just want to dump the crappy contracts (for obvious reasons) and a trade for Luongo would be the perfect opportunity to lose one of the crappy contracts...although you'd also be acquiring a terrible length of a contract.

I know I'm the minorty when I say this, but I would have no problem going forward with Luongo and trading Schnieder for a awesome return.
- fiveandagame

Too late they removed all Lu's gear out of the Canuck store already.

Why are Leaf fans still posting useless proposals for Luongo? This blog is about Florida.
- fiveandagame

Don't lump us all into one please. I love having a large following but its frustrating when half of them are mouth breathers

A core of players are players that actually play in the NHL, Frattin Ashton Kadri Colborne McKegg Blacker haven't made the NHL yet. So obviously they're not core players. Some of them, or perhaps all, might not ever be full time NHL players.

Lupul is 29 yrs old and a UFA after this season, Liles is 32 oft injured and on the downhill stretch of his career.

Grabovski is a good second line center, Kessel is one of the better goal scorers in the league, Dion is overrated and overpaid but still fairly young at 28, Gardiner yes. Other than that they don't have a lot of good young players!
- LeftCoaster

How is Liles on the down side of his career? Also so what if Lupul is 29? lmao the sedins are 31, so I guess they aren't part of the core? Btw who is the core in Van? Sedins, Kesler, Burrows, Bieksa and Edler? If you think Phaneuf is overrated, what about Bieksa? It is clear the Sedins are too soft to lead a team, and Kesler is more worried about diving then winning games.

I know I was joking . If I thought you would ban me I wouldn't have posted . Having fun with ya.
- VANTEL

S'all good mang.

So is Kesler officially damaged goods or should he maybe take the first half of the year off to properly heal and condition himself this time?

How is Liles on the down side of his career? Also so what if Lupul is 29? lmao the sedins are 31, so I guess they aren't part of the core? Btw who is the core in Van? Sedins, Kesler, Burrows, Bieksa and Edler? If you think Phaneuf is overrated, what about Bieksa? It is clear the Sedins are too soft to lead a team, and Kesler is more worried about diving then winning games.
- Allstarzz

Bieksa is much better than Dion on twitter.

S'all good mang.

So is Kesler officially damaged goods or should he maybe take the first half of the year off to properly heal and condition himself this time?
- Juice

I seen him on Twitter yesterday he seems like he is in a good mood . I hope he gets an attitude operation when he is working on his shoulder. He can be suck an ass.He might miss a month and a half.

Leaves the trailer park and 6 empty beers on the floor and goes back to work .
I hope my first patient does not require a bypass today. Later dudes see u after lunch.

I just think Leafs fans are a little panicked that Burke might actually trade for Lu....therefor they don't want to give up anything.

Adding Franson isn't really upping it all that much, there's high hopes for him but there's high hopes for every young player on that roster. Leafs fans just want to dump the crappy contracts (for obvious reasons) and a trade for Luongo would be the perfect opportunity to lose one of the crappy contracts...although you'd also be acquiring a terrible length of a contract.
- Juice

I understand that, but people should realize that Luongo is worth more then just a salary dump. The Canucks might have to take a contract back in the deal but they will also get a decent asset or 2 in the deal.

I know I'm the minorty when I say this, but I would have no problem going forward with Luongo and trading Schnieder for a awesome return.
- fiveandagame

that is a bannable offense.

I know I'm the minorty when I say this, but I would have no problem going forward with Luongo and trading Schnieder for a awesome return.
- fiveandagame

Yeah hard to say... signing Schnieder... trading Lou.. gives you more cap room... to get you another top six guy... but you are right Schnieder would give you one hell of a return... plus 20 teams.. lining up to make there best offer... hope it works out for yeah sooner.. rather then later.

How is Liles on the down side of his career? Also so what if Lupul is 29? lmao the sedins are 31, so I guess they aren't part of the core? Btw who is the core in Van? Sedins, Kesler, Burrows, Bieksa and Edler? If you think Phaneuf is overrated, what about Bieksa? It is clear the Sedins are too soft to lead a team, and Kesler is more worried about diving then winning games.
- Allstarzz

To back to back Presidents trophies, game 7 of the final, hart trophy, lester b pearson, art ross trophy. All while missing a combined 30 games in 5 years. Those softies.

that is a bannable offense.
- Scooby_Doo

lol... Where's Micahh when you need him.

I know I'm the minorty when I say this, but I would have no problem going forward with Luongo and trading Schnieder for a awesome return.
- fiveandagame

I agree but it depends a bit on the return for schneider and if the relationship between Lu and the team can be healed..

that is a bannable offense.
- Scooby_Doo

That's what I thought

To back to back Presidents trophies, game 7 of the final, hart trophy, lester b pearson, art ross trophy. All while missing a combined 30 games in 5 years. Those softies.
- Scooby_Doo

I love how Vancouver takes Boston to 7 while facing a brick wall in Thomas and the team is a bunch of pansy chokers. NJ runs into a brick wall in Quick in the finals and have scored 5 goals in 4 games including an empty netter, but nobody is calling them out right now.

Dude...it's me...when have I ever been like that?

Kadri demands a trade...gets sent to Minnesota. Yeo gets fired...they hire Wilson, Kadri ends up back in the AHL.
- Juice

Sounds like Paul Maurice and Tlusty, get's fired so he's traded to Carolina, Maurice hired in Carolina. Second Maurice is gone Tlusty ends the year with like 14 goals in 13 games

If it were at all possible I would love to pry Bjugstad out of Florida. Highly unlikely though.

I see Markstrom as the back up next year... no reason to trade for Lou.. They won't be a cup contender for a couple more years provided they keep getting better... I don't see it as where Lou wants to play... but more of who wants Lou... It would not surprise me to see Lou back in Vancouver next year... hopefully not tho.
- wolverine19

I was reading Spector's Hockey and this is one of the reasons I think they'll keep Markstrom in the AHL for another season. What's the rush, he's only 22. Bringing him up too early will ruin his development.

"SUN-SENTINEL.COM: Harvey Fialkov reports Florida Panthers GM Dale Tallon has sent contract offers to RFA forward Kris Versteeg and UFA goalie Scott Clemmensen, and is close to making offers to UFA blueliner Jason Garrison and UFA forward Mikael Samuelsson. Fialkov reports the offer for Clemmensen confirms the Panthers intend to keep Markstrom in the AHL for one more season".

How is Liles on the down side of his career? Also so what if Lupul is 29? lmao the sedins are 31, so I guess they aren't part of the core? Btw who is the core in Van? Sedins, Kesler, Burrows, Bieksa and Edler? If you think Phaneuf is overrated, what about Bieksa? It is clear the Sedins are too soft to lead a team, and Kesler is more worried about diving then winning games.
- Allstarzz

I stand corrected, Liles is more so in the prime of his career. So yes you're right and I'm wrong, he just seems like he's injured a lot. But then again, I don't follow the Leafs a whole lot.

Regarding Lupul, the only reason I mentioned his age is because he too is in the prime of his career heading into free agency after having a decent/good year. Could he be considered a core piece...yes I guess so. But he's a UFA after next year, he's a journeyman 20-25 goal a year player who's played on four different teams so far in his career.

Anyways back to the original thought, the Canucks are a veteran team. Leafs are the second youngest team in the league I believe? When speaking of core players the two teams should have very different core players! Canucks older, Leafs younger. Nucks won the President's Trophy, Leafs are picking 5th overall.

If you follow the Canucks threads, you'll know that Bieksa isn't overrated...he's a nightmare some days and others he's ok. NO ONE is pumping his tires around here for a Norris Trophy that's for sure!

I was reading Spector's Hockey and this is one of the reasons I think they'll keep Markstrom in the AHL for another season. What's the rush, he's only 22. Bringing him up too early with ruin his development.

"SUN-SENTINEL.COM: Harvey Fialkov reports Florida Panthers GM Dale Tallon has sent contract offers to RFA forward Kris Versteeg and UFA goalie Scott Clemmensen, and is close to making offers to UFA blueliner Jason Garrison and UFA forward Mikael Samuelsson. Fialkov reports the offer for Clemmensen confirms the Panthers intend to keep Markstrom in the AHL for one more season".
- LeftCoaster

Good point... but i don't see them going after Lou... its not like he puts them over the top to be a cup contender... I see them going with the same tandem for next year if Clemmensen is resigned... I would think Tallon learned to handle his cap space better then he did in Chicago... Aka Huet. but you never no?

I understand that, but people should realize that Luongo is worth more then just a salary dump. The Canucks might have to take a contract back in the deal but they will also get a decent asset or 2 in the deal.
- fiveandagame

But here's where you're frustrating yourself.....you're expecting Leafs fans to be realistic about something.

Good point... but i don't see them going after Lou... its not like he puts them over the top to be a cup contender... I see them going with the same tandem for next year if Clemmensen is resigned... I would think Tallon learned to handle his cap space better then he did in Chicago... Aka Huet. but you never no?
- wolverine19

If LeBrun says it's a possibility, then I believe him. As you say, you never know with these guys!

It would be funny if Luongo gets traded so Schnieder can start, and then goes to Florida where he gets bounced for another young goalie.