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niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 7 @ 4:12 PM ET
Jones got 4 years 16 mill.. if anyone cares.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:12 PM ET
Its not a big deal but its still comical
- Vukota



Fair enough!

XxNYIxX
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:13 PM ET
just to point it out yet again.. u are talking Botta's word for it that Cappy was not involved in this too. It is not like Cappy did not know the man or have a working relationship with him.
- niteislander



I'll take Botta's word over Wangs & Snow's any day of the week
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 7 @ 4:13 PM ET
LOL

I think Haley is history now that Blair Riley has been signed to a two way contract. Mind you, I'm a big Haley supporter but it seems like the Isles believe Riley has a bit more polish to his game.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to see what Riley can do. I will miss Haley though.

- SCLI


I hope they bring Haley back for the fourth line. Shouldn't have to be either/or...Haley can start in the NHL and Riley in the AHL. If Riley proves to be a better option, trade/waive Haley.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:13 PM ET
Fair enough!

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



I'm always fair
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:14 PM ET
just to point it out yet again.. u are talking Botta's word for it that Cappy was not involved in this too. It is not like Cappy did not know the man or have a working relationship with him.
- niteislander



Was he Cappy's assistant in Bridgeport?

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:17 PM ET
I'm always fair
- Vukota



not to Jack Hillen!

XxNYIxX
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:19 PM ET

- LetsGoIsles


LGI, I'm just making an assumption on Haley. Dont get so upset. Here's a tissue Pal.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 7 @ 4:20 PM ET
Was he Cappy's assistant in Bridgeport?

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

No he wasn't.. I was referring to working with the AHL affiliate coach on players to call up etc. Capuano and Thompson talked about players all the time last year.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:21 PM ET
LGI, I'm just making an assumption on Haley. Dont get so upset. Here's a tissue Pal.
- SCLI


Haley did get into a fight this year which means Wang will boot him out of here, so good bye Haley. This team is not allowed to be tough.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:22 PM ET
I hope they bring Haley back for the fourth line. Shouldn't have to be either/or...Haley can start in the NHL and Riley in the AHL. If Riley proves to be a better option, trade/waive Haley.
- UIF


So do I. But with all the guys in Bridgeport who can drop the gloves. Haley being a UFA and the Isle's already signing Riley. Well, I have seen this script before.

LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:23 PM ET
Of course he is gonna sit there and take it because thats what puppets do. The same reason wang hired snow and snow hired Capuano. Puppets are easy to control. Why can't people see that as being a huge problem??
- Vukota



youre playing both sides...first you say, why wouldnt he stand up for himself? his ass is on the line! he should be picking his own assistants...

than the next post you say, of course he sits and takes is because he is a puppet.


are you starting to see why people think there are certain people who post JUST to complain???
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 7 @ 4:23 PM ET
So do I. But with all the guys in Bridgeport who can drop the gloves. Haley being a UFA and the Isle's already signing Riley. Well, I have seen this script before.
- SCLI


I would like to see them both on the 4th line.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:23 PM ET
just to point it out yet again.. u are talking Botta's word for it that Cappy was not involved in this too. It is not like Cappy did not know the man or have a working relationship with him.
- niteislander




IT ISNT EVEN OFFICIAL YET!!!!!!!
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:24 PM ET
Jones got 4 years 16 mill.. if anyone cares.
- niteislander



Bobby????
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 7 @ 4:25 PM ET
Bobby????
- LetsGoIsles

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/col120607.html David Jones Avs... not sure what that means for PA.

LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:26 PM ET
Haley did get into a fight this year which means Wang will boot him out of here, so good bye Haley. This team is not allowed to be tough.
- kasperrko



okposo got into MULTIPLE fights...playing NHL12
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:27 PM ET
So do I. But with all the guys in Bridgeport who can drop the gloves. Haley being a UFA and the Isle's already signing Riley. Well, I have seen this script before.
- SCLI



not being a smartass....who else drops the gloves in BP??
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:32 PM ET
okposo got into MULTIPLE fights...playing NHL12
- LetsGoIsles


Oh well he is gone then too. Just when he was coming around a little
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:33 PM ET
Ok I am sorry I am kind of out of the loop who is this REilly kid?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:36 PM ET
youre playing both sides...first you say, why wouldnt he stand up for himself? his ass is on the line! he should be picking his own assistants...

than the next post you say, of course he sits and takes is because he is a puppet.


are you starting to see why people think there are certain people who post JUST to complain???

- LetsGoIsles



Huh? I'm pretty sure its no secret Caps was hired as a puppet. I should have said with a real organization you would be able to pick your own assistants puppet or no puppet. I was assuming you knew this isn't your normal organization and i didn't have to explain it further my bad.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:36 PM ET
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/col120607.html David Jones Avs... not sure what that means for PA.
- niteislander


Davey Jones from the Monkees? Wow great deal for someone who is dead. Something I can see the Islanders doing
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:39 PM ET
Haley did get into a fight this year which means Wang will boot him out of here, so good bye Haley. This team is not allowed to be tough.
- kasperrko


Riley's a tough SOB. I think he got into 11 fights last yr at Bridegport playing about 2/3 of the season.


I read somewhere that he's a pretty good Penalty killer. Maybe someone knows more about his game?

From Lighthouse Hockey.

50 Contract Limit

Meanwhile, here's how the 50 contract situation looks as of now (source for contracts: CapGeek). The Islanders typically stay under that limit as they enter the season -- unlike, say, the Flyers who sign first, as questions later -- leaving room for an in-season signing or two as necessary (e.g. Trevor Gillies in December a couple of years ago).

Players under NHL contract but returned to their junior teams do not count against the 50-contract limit, which can make training camp interesting for teams pushing the limit and having several juniors on the cusp.. So Ryan Strome didn't count in 2011-12. (Will he count in 2012-13?)
Signed (27)
Forwards (16) Defense (7) Goalies (4)
Tavares Streit Nabokov
Moulson Hamonic DiPietro
Grabner MacDonald Nilsson
Okposo Donovan Poulin
Niederreiter de Haan
Nielsen Ness
Reasoner Cantin
Bailey
Cizikas
Nelson
Halmo
Strome
Kabanov
Persson
Ullström
Riley

Restricted Free Agents (12)
Forwards (8) Defense (3) Goalies (1)

Martin Katic Koskinen
Rakhshani Alexandrov
Backman Wishart
Riendeau
Marcinko
McNeely
DiBenedetto
Romano

So even if the Islanders sign all their RFAs (a stretch), they'd be at 39 contracts. Qualifying Martin, Rakhshani and Koskinen are no-brainers. You'd think Wishart, Backman, DiBenedetto and Romano would continue to help in the AHL, but we'll see how it all shakes out.

Let's look at who else they might lose and/or need to replace.
Unrestricted Free Agents (12)
Forwards (6) Defense (4) Goalie (2)
Parenteau Jurcina Montoya
Pandolfo Staios Grahame (!)
Haley Eaton
Frischmon Reese
Colliton
Gillies



Many of these guys, and conceivably all, will be gone
.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:42 PM ET



Many of these guys, and conceivably all, will be gone.

- SCLI



On a properly run team yes they would be gone. With the bottom of the barrel shopping done by the Isles don't be surprised if more then 1 are back
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 7 @ 4:45 PM ET
On a properly run team yes they would be gone. With the bottom of the barrel shopping done by the Isles don't be surprised if more then 1 are back
- Vukota


I'd keep Colliton. Seems like a solid AHL vet who sets a good example for the prospects who play there.

edit -- I'd keep Reese too...decent 7/8 d-man.

And PA...well, who knows what's going on there.
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