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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 9:22 AM ET
There was some JvR for Schenn talk during the year. If that's a wash, then it comes down to Bobo and the 20th pick for the 5th. That's not a good deal for TO, IMHO.
- 77rams


I think the JvR for Schenn talk involved the Flyers getting more than Schenn.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 9:24 AM ET
When the best player in the world says he wants Jagr on the team, you put Jagr on the team.
- Jimmygrazz


This.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:25 AM ET
When the best player in the world says he wants Jagr on the team, you put Jagr on the team.
- Jimmygrazz


Well we differ. I dont want players making the decision of the organization.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:25 AM ET
draft Subban and trade for his brother and sign Garrison
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:25 AM ET
When the best player in the world says he wants Jagr on the team, you put Jagr on the team.
- Jimmygrazz


Enabling, for the win!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 9:25 AM ET
I was gifted a copy of a new album that's not to be released til Tuesday. Early music is the best kind, so I'm in sort of a good mood.


- tangent_man


New Bieber album, huh?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 7 @ 9:25 AM ET
Oh yeah. THAT'S gonna happen.
- bodiva88

I was told the other day to provide a link

but i think OB was just in a bad mood again... old man
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 7 @ 9:26 AM ET
But he did say money isnt an issue....

OR something along those lines.. Im gonna have to go digging up old articles for proof again so I dont get banned...

- jak521



The only way you get banned is if you make fun off deb placey lol
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:27 AM ET
Well we differ. I dont want players making the decision of the organization.
- stveshdy



so the majority of the team (players) has indicated they would like to see Jagr back...and you saw how much the team grew and the chemistry was great, you choose not to resign him because Players should not make decisions?

i understand both side of the coin and it seems it's mostly money driven with people saying they don't want him on the team.

I truly beleive homer will do what is right for the TEAM and will manage the cap accordingly.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:29 AM ET
New Bieber album, huh?
- Jsaquella


Don't tease me...that's the next week.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 9:29 AM ET
Well we differ. I dont want players making the decision of the organization.
- stveshdy


Which UFA veteran do you sign?

Ryan Smyth? Daymond Langkow? Shane Doan?

The only guys on the UFA list that appeals to me are Ray Whitney and Teemu Selanne, who are both over 40 years old and likely will cost around $3mm
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:29 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Progress in Jagr Negotiations
- bmeltzer


That's how they should draft.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 9:30 AM ET
Don't tease me...that's the next week.
- tangent_man


Oh, so today is Rebecca Black, huh?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:31 AM ET
so the majority of the team (players) has indicated they would like to see Jagr back...and you saw how much the team grew and the chemistry was great, you choose not to resign him because Players should not make decisions?

i understand both side of the coin and it seems it's mostly money driven with people saying they don't want him on the team.

I truly beleive homer will do what is right for the TEAM and will manage the cap accordingly.

- phi1671


I'm not saying the players dont want him back. Players are willing to speak up and stick up for teammates all the time. Do they like Jagr of course, why wouldnt they? However the Flyers are running a team and Homer has to do whats best for that team. Signing Jagr might be whats best for the team and will soon find out but I'm not a fan of a player demanding to be in top line roles without earning it. Could he possibly start the season off in that role? Sure. However, if there are other players who earn that spot then Jagr will have to understand and take a backseat to that.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 7 @ 9:31 AM ET
Well we differ. I dont want players making the decision of the organization.
- stveshdy

I would say players help make decisions all the time.

Id be willing to bet if a bunch of guys went to Homer... say G, Hartnell, Briere, etc. and said, "Listen Homer... somethings gotta give with the way Lava has been doing things".. he would listen... It doesnt mean that they are making the decision, but that they are offering advice from the people who are working directly with this person.

If your boss is thinking about hiring someone you know and like, and you say.. I would love to have them on staff.. they have helped me grow as a worker, and improve all around, would your boss not consider that?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:32 AM ET
Which UFA veteran do you sign?

Ryan Smyth? Daymond Langkow? Shane Doan?

The only guys on the UFA list that appeals to me are Ray Whitney and Teemu Selanne, who are both over 40 years old and likely will cost around $3mm

- Jsaquella


I don't have a list of players in front of me. There are other ways to get good locker room guys other than signing free agents.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 7 @ 9:32 AM ET
Oh, so today is Rebecca Black, huh?
- Jsaquella

Today is Friday!
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:32 AM ET
I was told the other day to provide a link

but i think OB was just in a bad mood again... old man

- jak521


And I'd say it again
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:33 AM ET
Well we differ. I dont want players making the decision of the organization.
- stveshdy


Your making it sound like the guy was not effective. He was as effective as Leino was the year before, but the youth like having him around. Who knows maybe G only scores 70 points without Jagr pushing him?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 7 @ 9:33 AM ET
Which UFA veteran do you sign?

Ryan Smyth? Daymond Langkow? Shane Doan?

The only guys on the UFA list that appeals to me are Ray Whitney and Teemu Selanne, who are both over 40 years old and likely will cost around $3mm

- Jsaquella

Isnt Morrow a UFA? Id kill to have him...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 7 @ 9:34 AM ET
And I'd say it again
- ob18

So bitter anymore!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:35 AM ET
I would say players help make decisions all the time.

Id be willing to bet if a bunch of guys went to Homer... say G, Hartnell, Briere, etc. and said, "Listen Homer... somethings gotta give with the way Lava has been doing things".. he would listen... It doesnt mean that they are making the decision, but that they are offering advice from the people who are working directly with this person.

If your boss is thinking about hiring someone you know and like, and you say.. I would love to have them on staff.. they have helped me grow as a worker, and improve all around, would your boss not consider that?

- jak521


I agree. You take that input and store it. However, we all know its a business and the Flyers still have to roster a team that they feel is good enough to win. I'm not saying Jagr doesnt do that, Im just suggesting that they look at other options also.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:36 AM ET
So bitter anymore!
- jak521


Rule #10 of the COC for rumors
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 7 @ 9:36 AM ET
Your making it sound like the guy was not effective. He was as effective as Leino was the year before, but the youth like having him around. Who knows maybe G only scores 70 points without Jagr pushing him?
- Jimmygrazz


I never said he wasnt effective. I am stating that its great he is a good locker room guy and leader on/off the ice. I just want the Flyers to look at other options also. I just think that money can be used elsewhere when this team has other needs first imo.

Your making sound like Jagr is the only reason Giroux played well.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 9:37 AM ET
Isnt Morrow a UFA? Id kill to have him...
- jak521


If you don't mind him and constantly being hurt and he is not a UFA
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