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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 7 @ 3:01 PM ET
I would say the trade. I much rather be alive then keep JvR.
- stveshdy

Did I say the gun was loaded?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
That young kid (think rookie) Slava Voynov looks pretty friggin' good to.
- stveshdy

I was going to mention him, too. He stepped in after JJ was traded, correct?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
we all saw what the team can do when they are healthy...that's the big "IF"...

the kings are healthy, the Blackhawks were healthy...
it just seems like the Flyers cannot catch a break. That's what i would look into...although i doubt anything will come up other then "bad breaks"

- phi1671


Theres noway to avoid injuries. They just happen. I hear what your saying though it would be nice to have a healthy team in the playoffs for once.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
I was going to mention him, too. He stepped in after JJ was traded, correct?
- BulliesPhan87


Yes.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
we all saw what the team can do when they are healthy...that's the big "IF"...

the kings are healthy, the Blackhawks were healthy...
it just seems like the Flyers cannot catch a break. That's what i would look into...although i doubt anything will come up other then "bad breaks"

- phi1671


Any player by player comparisons (which I started). Might make for some good arguing (I mean debate).

Briere v. Richards (ill take Richards)



I think I am the only one on the board that would take Penner in a trade for Read (absent the salary).
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
Personally, I'd love to have Jagr back at the same amount. I know his body broke down, but I think he can still contribute. If the cap goes up, I think it's a no brainer. Also, sounds really like Prongs is done which is no surprise, and that Homer's just saying what is necessary to LTIR him.
- Hextall271



Mez's body broke down - younger then Jagr
JVR broke - younger then Jagr
Kimmo broke down - younger then Jagr

Yes, he's older...I just lean towards being in favor...
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:03 PM ET
Any player by player comparisons (which I started). Might make for some good arguing (I mean debate).

Briere v. Richards (ill take Richards)



I think I am the only one on the board that would take Penner in a trade for Read (absent the salary).

- Daman



regualar season - Richards
Defense - Richards
Scoring - Oh Danny Boy
Playoffs - Oh Danny Boy

Push
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 7 @ 3:09 PM ET
Theres noway to avoid injuries. They just happen. I hear what your saying though it would be nice to have a healthy team in the playoffs for once.
- stveshdy

Plus one
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:11 PM ET
Half of all people have IQs under 100. Having them drive CARS is scary. Having them carry guns is scarier.
- bodiva88


Having them use abortion as a form of birth control... even worse...

too political? Maybe we can end this discussion.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:12 PM ET
Theres noway to avoid injuries. They just happen. I hear what your saying though it would be nice to have a healthy team in the playoffs for once.
- stveshdy



yes, i know...
it would be nice to see a healthy team on the ice during the playoffs...

i don't know, sometimes I believe they work out so much, they almost put a strain on their body and it's waiting to break. if there was such a thing
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:24 PM ET
"Nickles" Banner fired as Prez of the Iggles...
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:25 PM ET
Last year, wasn't Stamkos the unrealistic rumour du jour?

This year, I'm torn between Parise and Suter as the unrealistic option.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:25 PM ET
Last year, wasn't Stamkos the unrealistic rumour du jour?

This year, I'm torn between Parise and Suter as the unrealistic option.

- Daman

I'll take the former.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 7 @ 3:29 PM ET
"Nickles" Banner fired as Prez of the Iggles...
- Giroux_Is_God


All In.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:30 PM ET
If someone had a gun to my head and said I had to trade JvR for Schenn.. id say pull the trigger.

No BS. I would. 10 days a weak.

- jak521


Nice blending of several of the current topics in the thread into one comment. All you left out was a mention of Radulov.


Also, I left out Carle in my last post. Luke Schenn is not better than Carle either. I really fail to see the fascination with the guy, beyond the fact that his little (and better) brother plays here. If he couldn't even stay in the starting lineup in Toronto, why would we want him at all, let alone for JVR?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:30 PM ET
All In.
- stveshdy

Not a huge football fan to start, but man did I hate that guy
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 7 @ 3:33 PM ET
All In.
- stveshdy

A co-worker suggested this was related to a power struggle between he and Andy Reid. I don't know much at all about football, any truth to this?
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:35 PM ET
Nice blending of several of the current topics in the thread into one comment. All you left out was a mention of Radulov.


Also, I left out Carle in my last post. Luke Schenn is not better than Carle either. I really fail to see the fascination with the guy, beyond the fact that his little (and better) brother plays here. If he couldn't even stay in the starting lineup in Toronto, why would we want him at all, let alone for JVR?

- BringBack25


Good point - Toronto sucks.

Personally I would make a trade for Schenn but not for JVR.

Still don't agree with the constant thoughts of shipping JVR.



Does anyone else think that Carter and Richards tanked the game last night so they could celebrate the cup right in our backyard (to rub it in)? Just a conspiracy theory.



bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:37 PM ET
That's another concern I had, though not my initial reaction to the suggestion of acquiring Shultz. It might not historically be their strong suit, but I wouldn't ignore the chance to get him and begin reversing that reputation.
- BulliesPhan87

You have a point.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:50 PM ET
Good point - Toronto sucks.

Personally I would make a trade for Schenn but not for JVR.

Still don't agree with the constant thoughts of shipping JVR.



Does anyone else think that Carter and Richards tanked the game last night so they could celebrate the cup right in our backyard (to rub it in)? Just a conspiracy theory.

- Daman


no
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 7 @ 3:52 PM ET
Good point - Toronto sucks.

Personally I would make a trade for Schenn but not for JVR.

Still don't agree with the constant thoughts of shipping JVR.



Does anyone else think that Carter and Richards tanked the game last night so they could celebrate the cup right in our backyard (to rub it in)? Just a conspiracy theory.

- Daman

So the best line on the ice the entire night "tanked" on purpose so they could win in our backyard?

Good God
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:53 PM ET
Good point - Toronto sucks.

Personally I would make a trade for Schenn but not for JVR.

Still don't agree with the constant thoughts of shipping JVR.



Does anyone else think that Carter and Richards tanked the game last night so they could celebrate the cup right in our backyard (to rub it in)? Just a conspiracy theory.

- Daman

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:54 PM ET
So the best line on the ice the entire night "tanked" on purpose so they could win in our backyard?

Good God

- jak521

Really is a remarkably stupid statement, on multiple levels. Well done 'man
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jun 7 @ 3:55 PM ET
Half of all people have IQs under 100. Having them drive CARS is scary. Having them carry guns is scarier.
- bodiva88




what is scarier is 100% of the criminals that carry guns have an IQ under 100.

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 7 @ 3:56 PM ET
Really is a remarkably stupid statement, on multiple levels. Well done 'man
- Giroux_Is_God

and just when I thought nothing could trump "JvR faked an injury to prevent a trade".. this comes along.
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