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_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 6:27 PM ET
have not heard anyone really "slamming" the Devils; they have been competitive in all 3 games, and the biggest lament has been that their top players have not been scoring (nor has anyone else). They also have not gotten a break (the first goal last night was shaky), but on the other hand they failed to get much pressure on the first period 5-on-3, when a goal could have set the tone and maybe changed the course of the whole series....bottom line, they have simply not been good enough, but no one is "slamming" this team when there are 28 other teams sitting at home....
- jkaflagg


They were in the zone for a majority of the 5-on-3. Parise had a tap-in play at the doorstep that he couldn't get through the pads. Elias, if he hadn't gone so close to the net, could've had a couple of bank in shots. It's just more frustrating from a Devils perspective. Even when Zidlicky took that penalty, we were the better team 4-on-4. It's just that it took one goal, which arguably should've been whistled down, that ultimately frustrated the Devils, and they weren't the same team after.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 6:40 PM ET
Just some thoughts:

I doubt we keep all three of Carter, Gionta, Bernier? I am guessing we'd keep two out of three, which two would you like to see return?

Do you think we should keep Ponikarovski?

Do you think we should keep Salvador (with him we'd have seven defensemen with Larsson)?

How much should Fayne get in his new deal and how long?

Peter Harrold or Taormina as 7th d-man (both UFAs), or neither?

Sykora or Janssen returning, or neither?
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 5 @ 6:52 PM ET
Just some thoughts:

I doubt we keep all three of Carter, Gionta, Bernier? I am guessing we'd keep two out of three, which two would you like to see return?

Do you think we should keep Ponikarovski?

Do you think we should keep Salvador (with him we'd have seven defensemen with Larsson)?

How much should Fayne get in his new deal and how long?

Peter Harrold or Taormina as 7th d-man (both UFAs), or neither?

Sykora or Janssen returning, or neither?

- _Zippy_

i'd like to keep gionta and carter. Bernier probs in minors.

poni can gtfo

salvador only on the cheap and for a year.

fayne shouldn't get too much.

i don't care who the seventh dman is

sykora and janssen, gone.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 6:57 PM ET
i'd like to keep gionta and carter. Bernier probs in minors.

poni can gtfo

salvador only on the cheap and for a year.

fayne shouldn't get too much.

i don't care who the seventh dman is

sykora and janssen, gone.

- shvingter88


I agree with you on everything, but what is your thoughts on Fayne salary. Do you think 2 million is too much or reasonable. And how much is too much for Carter and Gionta?

And I'd really want to find some (frank)ing way to get rid of Boulton.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 5 @ 7:04 PM ET
i'd like to keep gionta and carter. Bernier probs in minors.

poni can gtfo

salvador only on the cheap and for a year.

fayne shouldn't get too much.

i don't care who the seventh dman is

sykora and janssen, gone.

- shvingter88



Tossing cam out with that avatar that is harsh.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 7:06 PM ET
Tossing cam out with that avatar that is harsh.
- NickA

shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 5 @ 7:11 PM ET
I agree with you on everything, but what is your thoughts on Fayne salary. Do you think 2 million is too much or reasonable. And how much is too much for Carter and Gionta?

And I'd really want to find some (frank)ing way to get rid of Boulton.

- _Zippy_

2 mil tops for fayne

carter and gio, idk 950k

i know brodeur is going to sign cheap, but i don't really know what sort of deal will be made. 1.5 would be (frank)ing awesome.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 5 @ 7:12 PM ET
Tossing cam out with that avatar that is harsh.
- NickA

NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 5 @ 7:15 PM ET
is Boulton signed on next year if he is im gonna be very upset.


Also would like to add this blows talking about next year...
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 5 @ 7:17 PM ET
is Boulton signed on next year if he is im gonna be very upset.


Also would like to add this blows talking about next year...

- NickA

i'd rather be talking about next season in june then in april.


there, cam is gone.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 5 @ 7:23 PM ET
i'd rather be talking about next season in june then in april.


there, cam is gone.

- shvingter88



This is true was just hoping for at least another week before there is no hockey and i don't know what to do with myself. I don't mind cam even though he sucks. Better he watches from the press box then take minutes from a prospect in the AHL and hes a great team guy.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
This is true was just hoping for at least another week before there is no hockey and i don't know what to do with myself. I don't mind cam even though he sucks. Better he watches from the press box then take minutes from a prospect in the AHL and hes a great team guy.
- NickA

i think this playoff run has shown that we don't need "fighters" on the team anymore. we just need a couple of big bodies that can hit and are willing to fight when the time is right. i hope lou has noticed this too.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 7:29 PM ET
2 mil tops for fayne

carter and gio, idk 950k

i know brodeur is going to sign cheap, but i don't really know what sort of deal will be made. 1.5 would be (frank)ing awesome.

- shvingter88


He's got to pay his ex-wife 500k each year until 2020 in alimony. I don't think he signs for lower than 4 million, I think at this point, this money is just to fund the rest of that alimony.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 5 @ 7:29 PM ET
how would you guys feel if lou traded for Radulov's rights? he isn't the typical devils player though, probs wouldn't fit in well here. maybe kovy could talk some sense into him?
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 7:31 PM ET
i think this playoff run has shown that we don't need "fighters" on the team anymore. we just need a couple of big bodies that can hit and are willing to fight when the time is right. i hope lou has noticed this too.
- shvingter88


Yup, Clarkson and Carter are enough in the fighting department, "fight" in between the whistles, not after. I love the future with DeBoer at the helm though, once he gets players for this system, we'll be here again. We just need a good mix of quick, gritty forwards and some big bodies that are good on the boards. Players like Versteeg would excel in our system.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 7:32 PM ET
how would you guys feel if lou traded for Radulov's rights? he isn't the typical devils player though, probs wouldn't fit in well here. maybe kovy could talk some sense into him?
- shvingter88


It depends what they ask. If it's giving up a prospect and a late pick, why not. Give Radulov 3.75 million or somewhere around there, there's no knocking the potential there. It could be like another Pikka experiment, except Radulov can actually score without the help of the goalie.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 5 @ 7:33 PM ET
He's got to pay his ex-wife 500k each year until 2020 in alimony. I don't think he signs for lower than 4 million, I think at this point, this money is just to fund the rest of that alimony.
- _Zippy_

the nhl isn't his only source of income. if i were him i would have made multiple investments on properties, and the market. i know he has a restaurant, but that won't get you very far. you can do a lot with the money he makes.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 5 @ 7:34 PM ET
how would you guys feel if lou traded for Radulov's rights? he isn't the typical devils player though, probs wouldn't fit in well here. maybe kovy could talk some sense into him?
- shvingter88



A huge gamble and hes gonna want big bucks or he will go back to the khl. I think he will go back to the khl anyway no one is gonna want to pay him after the bullpoop he pulled in the playoffs. Good player but a bad attitude id rather pass.
Your right we don't need fighters either but definitely need bigger forwards.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 5 @ 7:35 PM ET
the nhl isn't his only source of income. if i were him i would have made multiple investments on properties, and the market. i know he has a restaurant, but that won't get you very far. you can do a lot with the money he makes.
- shvingter88



Also has made a poop load i would imagine from endorsements over the years...I would think at least.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 5 @ 7:35 PM ET
Yup, Clarkson and Carter are enough in the fighting department, "fight" in between the whistles, not after. I love the future with DeBoer at the helm though, once he gets players for this system, we'll be here again. We just need a good mix of quick, gritty forwards and some big bodies that are good on the boards. Players like Versteeg would excel in our system.
- _Zippy_

i remember being worried about the deboer signing. but i love what he has done to make this an aggressive style team.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 5 @ 7:36 PM ET
how would you guys feel if lou traded for Radulov's rights? he isn't the typical devils player though, probs wouldn't fit in well here. maybe kovy could talk some sense into him?
- shvingter88

I say pass. We need to upgrade in goal and on D, don't really have interest in a forward upgrade at this point.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 5 @ 7:36 PM ET
It depends what they ask. If it's giving up a prospect and a late pick, why not. Give Radulov 3.75 million or somewhere around there, there's no knocking the potential there. It could be like another Pikka experiment, except Radulov can actually score without the help of the goalie.
- _Zippy_

sounds a bit pricey, but i think his options in the nhl are pretty limited.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 5 @ 7:37 PM ET
Also has made a poop load i would imagine from endorsements over the years...I would think at least.
- NickA

good call. he has money, no doubt about that.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 5 @ 7:38 PM ET
I say pass. We need to upgrade in goal and on D, don't really have interest in a forward upgrade at this point.
- rmdevil313

ugh i would love suter on this team.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 5 @ 8:04 PM ET
ugh i would love suter on this team.
- shvingter88


I'd be willing to shell out a fairly long term deal to get him too. Larsson, Merill, Suter, and Greene in our top 4 in 3 years?
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