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Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 8 @ 2:24 PM ET
Ian Esplen has a trade proposal that would see us trading Staal and our 1st and we would get back Higgins and Carolina's 1st as part of a 3 team trade.



- canadianpenfan


Why would Shero even bother including Vancouver in on a 3 way deal?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 8 @ 2:30 PM ET
Why would Shero even bother including Vancouver in on a 3 way deal?
- Gunner Staal



You'll have to ask Ian. It's a ludicrous offer to say the least.

edit- and obviously Higgins is the centerpiece of this deal, that's why we need Van.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:32 PM ET
Why would Shero even bother including Vancouver in on a 3 way deal?
- Gunner Staal

To get Higgins! Seriously gunner that was obvious.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 8 @ 2:32 PM ET
You'll have to ask Ian. It's a ludicrous offer to say the least.

edit- and obviously Higgins is the centerpiece of this deal, that's why we need Van.

- canadianpenfan


I enjoy Travis' trade wars blogs, at least they are based in logic.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 8 @ 2:33 PM ET
I enjoy Travis' trade wars blogs, at least they are based in logic.
- Gunner Staal



I would do Travis' proposal from a Penguins perspective. One of the few trades involving Staal that I can say that about.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 8 @ 2:34 PM ET
I would do Travis' proposal from a Penguins perspective. One of the few trades involving Staal that I can say that about.
- canadianpenfan


I don't think Phoenix would though, there is no shot Staal would resign there. OEL is a really good player.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 8 @ 2:36 PM ET
I don't think Phoenix would though, there is no shot Staal would resign there. OEL is a really good player.
- Gunner Staal



I agree, I don't think they would either. Truthfully, I would pull the trigger on that even without Vrbata being included, that's how highly I think of OEL.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 8 @ 2:36 PM ET
To get Higgins! Seriously gunner that was obvious.
- dbell646



Exactly!
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 8 @ 3:33 PM ET
I agree, I don't think they would either. Truthfully, I would pull the trigger on that even without Vrbata being included, that's how highly I think of OEL.
- canadianpenfan


that kid seems like the real deal. i understand we dont need more defensemen, but he is going to be a heck of a player. if we have to lose staal, regardless of need, he alone is quite a haul. he could probably be moved for a ton, or some other defensive part moved. that being said, i cannot see the yotes parting with him.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 8 @ 4:12 PM ET
So David Jones signs a 4yr 16 mil deal with the AVS hes never put up more than 45 pts and last yr 37 pts and missed only 10games. Staal is worth 6-7mil/yr easy.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 5:04 PM ET
Time to go part.....
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 8 @ 5:36 PM ET
So David Jones signs a 4yr 16 mil deal with the AVS hes never put up more than 45 pts and last yr 37 pts and missed only 10games. Staal is worth 6-7mil/yr easy.
- sammy87

scary but true
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 8 @ 8:31 PM ET
Ian Esplen has a trade proposal that would see us trading Staal and our 1st and we would get back Higgins and Carolina's 1st as part of a 3 team trade.



- canadianpenfan


I don't know what is more ridiculous, that or the non sense of Richard Cloutier - Staal for Sam Gagner and a third? Both have no clue.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 8 @ 8:33 PM ET
I don't think Phoenix would though, there is no shot Staal would resign there. OEL is a really good player.
- Gunner Staal


OEL is going to be very good. Phoenix would be nuts to trade him. I think, if Staal to Phoenix happens (it won't), but I'd start with Boedker and go from there.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 9:03 PM ET
We r getting seto clutterbuck and 1st for staal and tk
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 9:08 PM ET


Not sure why it won't post...
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 8 @ 9:50 PM ET
We r getting seto clutterbuck and 1st for staal and tk
- nh4442

Setoguchi is only fractionally better than Kennedy. 36, 41, 36 are Setoguchi's last 3 seasons for points with 22 goals as his high. Your boy Dupuis is way better than him.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 9 @ 7:52 AM ET
We r getting seto clutterbuck and 1st for staal and tk
- nh4442


So, you want to trade one of the best two way forwards in the game and a 15-goal scorer for one of the most overrated players in the league (Seto) and a guy that only hits (Clutterbuck)? I love Clutterbuck, but this doesn't help much.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 9 @ 8:31 AM ET
So, you want to trade one of the best two way forwards in the game and a 15-goal scorer for one of the most overrated players in the league (Seto) and a guy that only hits (Clutterbuck)? I love Clutterbuck, but this doesn't help much.
- Oneonta Penguin

Seto is atleast a top 6 forward and paired with sid his numbers will increase. Clutter will help withgrit and a top 10pick could get us a decent winger prospect...

But i hear carolina is going to give the most for staal....
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
Seto is atleast a top 6 forward and paired with sid his numbers will increase. Clutter will help withgrit and a top 10pick could get us a decent winger prospect...

But i hear carolina is going to give the most for staal....

- nh4442


I really like the idea of having Setoguchi and Clutterbuck on the Pens. Those are two pieces that "we can keep" (salary wise) on our team..complimentary players.

I don't know what Carolina is offering but I'd be cool with the idea of at least getting Sutter/Gleason/pick. Skinner would be even better.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 9 @ 5:55 PM ET
I'm sorry but no way can you justify paying 6-7mil for a 3rd line center while the best player in the world has Dupuis as a winger.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 9 @ 9:13 PM ET
Seto is atleast a top 6 forward and paired with sid his numbers will increase. Clutter will help withgrit and a top 10pick could get us a decent winger prospect...

But i hear carolina is going to give the most for staal....

- nh4442


Got to be honest, not enthused about what Carolina has to offer.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 9 @ 11:14 PM ET
Ive been saying i dont like what carolina has to offer for months!!!!

Id rather deal with minny edm or even maybe cbj....
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 10 @ 9:49 AM ET
Soooo what's new......


Where's all the twitter rumblings..... sid 10yrs for 9 .mil....I'll take it in a heartbeat
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:22 AM ET
Ive been saying i dont like what carolina has to offer for months!!!!

Id rather deal with minny edm or even maybe cbj....

- nh4442


Edmonton makes no sense unless they are trading the top pick, which I think they should. They aren't really helping their glaring weaknesses by drafting Nail.

Columbus - I DON'T see a match. There really is nothing in the farm system and outside of two guys on the major league roster, there isn't a match.

Minnesota - only one guy interests me and its Clutterbuck. That said, I don't do a Staal for Clutterbuck and a first. Setogucchi doesn't interest me.

The teams I see a match - Phoenix, Chicago, Nashville, STL and maybe Winnipeg.
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