We cant make that deal, we are already trading Fleury and Staal to Chicago for Bolland and Crawford.
- Gunner Staal

LOL ... that one was a beauty, right? Where do people come up with this crap?

MAF was the worst against Phili in the playoffs. I hope you're right though because if Pittsburgh isnt offering MAF for Nash then the Hawks have the next best package by including Kane+ , we'll see.
- mrpaulish

Question ... is scoring the problem in Pittsburgh? Think about things - please.

Kane is a bum. I wouldn't want him anywhere near Pittsburgh. It's not his talent. Its the stuff that comes with him.

Ever seen Crawford ?
- mrpaulish

You mean the guy who lets in more softies than any starting goalie in the league? There is a reason you are shopping for a starting goalie in the Windy City.

Hopefully Leino is involved.
- canadianpenfan

and Roy?

anyone see Ek's post about staal for yandle, a 2nd and possibly a 3rd? only way this trade gets done is if martin gets sent with staal. there is no way the pens can afford another 5 mil defenseman without getting rid of martin or michalek.

but i see dallas is interested. how about they resign benn and then staal for benn

anyone see Ek's post about staal for yandle, a 2nd and possibly a 3rd? only way this trade gets done is if martin gets sent with staal. there is no way the pens can afford another 5 mil defenseman without getting rid of martin or michalek.

but i see dallas is interested. how about they resign benn and then staal for benn
- drummer829

#1 ... Yandle isn't going anywhere. If he is, he better get more than Staal and two draft picks, which would be late in the second and third round.

#2. You don't send Martin in the same deal as Staal. It takes away from the return for Staal asking a team to take a 5 million dollar D-man for the next three years. Martin for a fourth rounder and then ...

#3. Benn? He is the reason why Dallas dealt Neal. I can't see them dealing Benn.

Busy at work, didn't get to hear Shero on the Fan, can anyone break it down?

#1 ... Yandle isn't going anywhere. If he is, he better get more than Staal and two draft picks, which would be late in the second and third round.

#2. You don't send Martin in the same deal as Staal. It takes away from the return for Staal asking a team to take a 5 million dollar D-man for the next three years. Martin for a fourth rounder and then ...

#3. Benn? He is the reason why Dallas dealt Neal. I can't see them dealing Benn.
- Oneonta Penguin

you really think yandle is worth staal and 2 draft picks? or the other way around?

also kind of missed the sarcasm on my benn pitch

Busy at work, didn't get to hear Shero on the Fan, can anyone break it down?
- ryman1566

I didn't hear but I'm guessing everyone is getting traded and we're not getting much back. Sady day indeed.

you really think yandle is worth staal and 2 draft picks? or the other way around?

also kind of missed the sarcasm on my benn pitch
- drummer829

Contract is important right now. Staal with a new contract is worth a whole lot more than he is now.

Contract is important right now. Staal with a new contract is worth a whole lot more than he is now.
- Morris

True. Plus Yandle's contract is pretty good. Still not a fit for this team with the current roster.

you really think yandle is worth staal and 2 draft picks? or the other way around?

also kind of missed the sarcasm on my benn pitch
- drummer829

I don't see a match here as far as a trade. Phoenix could use Staal without question. Phoenix needs Staal more than we need Yandle. We have alot of puck moving blueliners. I'm not saying who is worth more. It's certainly not a straight up deal.

This deal in Pittsburgh's perspective doesn't happen unless one deal is already made prior - involving one or two blueliners.

I still dont get the questions about Fleury. Maybe its the baseball stat nerd in me, but a bad stretch at the end of the season doesnt diminish the 60 or so games before that where he was phenomenal. There are tons of other teams who would take him as their starter in a heartbeat.

I still dont get the questions about Fleury. Maybe its the baseball stat nerd in me, but a bad stretch at the end of the season doesnt diminish the 60 or so games before that where he was phenomenal. There are tons of other teams who would take him as their starter in a heartbeat.
- Deadstar

Me either. Short memories I guess. To think he's now mentioned in trades with Crawford is ludicrous.

He sucks.












- optimus-reim

LMAO!! These Maple Loaf fans...He'd FOR SURE be the starter in Toronto. Vokoun does have a streak in him, that when he gets "pummeled" with loads of shots (and he rarely gets blown out), actually wins many, as I've seen first hand, that's when he becomes voacally critical. He did clash with PDB on occasion, but what got me most is how last off season he tried to "play the game" with the Panthers, and it backfired on him. He was damn close to being out of a job last year. He seems a bit fragile too now. However, he is probably going to the team that can use him the best. Wonder how his attitude is now, knowing he's basically not a starter, and really won't be for the rest of his career.

Why even give permission? To me it's quite obvious that he did give permission, as you don't sign a guy that quickly after trading for him. Nice gesture by McPhee, but now it's something that could very well bite them in the arse.
- Lahey

At first I wondered why trade with Pittsburgh, but the alternative was that Vokoun was going to walk on July 1 and was probably going to sign in Pittsburgh anyway (he wants to compete for a Cup so his suitors were going to be fairly limited). Caps pick up a 7th round pick to add some organizational depth AND get some positive PR for honoring a player's wishes.

As far as the Caps getting bitten in the arse over this, I don't see how it could be viewed that way even if Vokoun was to lead the Pens over the Caps in a playoff series next year -- if Vokoun/his Agent said to McPhee "I want to sign in Pittsburgh, can you let me try to work a deal", that pretty much tells you that Vokoun was probably going to sign in Pittsburgh, whether it be now (via the trade) or July 1 (straight UFA).

I still dont get the questions about Fleury. Maybe its the baseball stat nerd in me, but a bad stretch at the end of the season doesnt diminish the 60 or so games before that where he was phenomenal. There are tons of other teams who would take him as their starter in a heartbeat.
- Deadstar

Consistency has always been his nemesis. Surely you can acknowledge that? I am not putting it all on MAF, the TEAM was inconsistent too. It's just been the knock on him. I like him don't get me wrong.

Consistency has always been his nemesis. Surely you can acknowledge that? I am not putting it all on MAF, the TEAM was inconsistent too. It's just been the knock on him. I like him don't get me wrong.
- powerhouse

No doubt - thought he had achieved that consistency, though, until the end of the year/playoff meltdown against the Flyers. It will be interesting to see how he does next season -- I don't believe that Vokoun is a threat to replace him, but he's a very credible option (if healthy) to play plenty of games (including in the playoffs) if Fleury slips up.

At first I wondered why trade with Pittsburgh, but the alternative was that Vokoun was going to walk on July 1 and was probably going to sign in Pittsburgh anyway (he wants to compete for a Cup so his suitors were going to be fairly limited). Caps pick up a 7th round pick to add some organizational depth AND get some positive PR for honoring a player's wishes.

As far as the Caps getting bitten in the arse over this, I don't see how it could be viewed that way even if Vokoun was to lead the Pens over the Caps in a playoff series next year -- if Vokoun/his Agent said to McPhee "I want to sign in Pittsburgh, can you let me try to work a deal", that pretty much tells you that Vokoun was probably going to sign in Pittsburgh, whether it be now (via the trade) or July 1 (straight UFA).
- MadCap2008

Yeah, I don't see a downside with McPhee trading him to Pittsburgh. He was likely going to walk and get nothing for him anyway... This way, McPhee gets something back, and helps out Allan Walsh a little bit. I remember Walsh called out Dale Hunter for calling out Vokoun this season, maybe this helps smooth things over?

No doubt - thought he had achieved that consistency, though, until the end of the year/playoff meltdown against the Flyers. It will be interesting to see how he does next season -- I don't believe that Vokoun is a threat to replace him, but he's a very credible option (if healthy) to play plenty of games (including in the playoffs) if Fleury slips up.
- MadCap2008

Fleury has his mood swings ... looks like the best goalie in the league one night and then looks like whoever is in net for Toronto or Columbus the next. He is more up than down.

We all saw signs late in the season that we didn't like and it wasn't just Fleury. It was the defense too. He has always let in soft goals and quite frankly, will do so until he retires. Vokoun isn't a threat to him, but he will push him. Competition breeds success in my book. A rested Fleury heading into the play-offs will be a good thing.

At first I wondered why trade with Pittsburgh, but the alternative was that Vokoun was going to walk on July 1 and was probably going to sign in Pittsburgh anyway (he wants to compete for a Cup so his suitors were going to be fairly limited). Caps pick up a 7th round pick to add some organizational depth AND get some positive PR for honoring a player's wishes.

As far as the Caps getting bitten in the arse over this, I don't see how it could be viewed that way even if Vokoun was to lead the Pens over the Caps in a playoff series next year -- if Vokoun/his Agent said to McPhee "I want to sign in Pittsburgh, can you let me try to work a deal", that pretty much tells you that Vokoun was probably going to sign in Pittsburgh, whether it be now (via the trade) or July 1 (straight UFA).
- MadCap2008

The deal brings the Caps a 7th rounder that they otherwise wouldn't have. If Volkoun was going to walk anyway come July 1, getting a bag of pucks for his rights is a win.

There is always the possibility that this comes back to bite them if the Caps and Pens are in a tight playoff race, but i'd still take the guaranteed draft pick over the hypothetical threat any day.

I don't see a match here as far as a trade. Phoenix could use Staal without question. Phoenix needs Staal more than we need Yandle. We have alot of puck moving blueliners. I'm not saying who is worth more. It's certainly not a straight up deal.

This deal in Pittsburgh's perspective doesn't happen unless one deal is already made prior - involving one or two blueliners.
- Oneonta Penguin

Staal + for Yandle, 2nd & 3rd makes zero sense for Pittsburgh. The Penguins have a log-jam at the blueline; adding another big money Dman makes no sense given that Despres, Morrow, and Harrington are all in the pipeline.

Staal + for Yandle, 2nd & 3rd makes zero sense for Pittsburgh. The Penguins have a log-jam at the blueline; adding another big money Dman makes no sense given that Despres, Morrow, and Harrington are all in the pipeline.
- s0rcerer1984

So, we agree ...

Staal + for Yandle, 2nd & 3rd makes zero sense for Pittsburgh. The Penguins have a log-jam at the blueline; adding another big money Dman makes no sense given that Despres, Morrow, and Harrington are all in the pipeline.
- s0rcerer1984

We tend to forget about Strait and Bortuzzo and those are two guys that can be 6th/7th d-man easily.

We'll have to trade a couple d-man at some point..

Wtf is this staal for yandle bullahit... If we trade staal it better not be for a (frank)ing D!!!!