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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 5 @ 4:15 PM ET
I dont care if Ralph who lives under the Walt Whitman is taping guys up lets just "Win the Cup".


- stveshdy


Hopefully Ralph has a good diet recommendation that prevents broken feet and concussions. Otherwise might as well keep what we have.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:16 PM ET
Hopefully Ralph has a good diet recommendation that prevents broken feet and concussions. Otherwise might as well keep what we have.
- funmaster18


Ralph can't even spell concussion and his own feet are broken.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 5 @ 4:18 PM ET
so you think the Flyers lack of a championship should cost the athletic trainer his job? I think the crazy amount of praise he gets league wide should be indicative that he is doing a damn good job.
- jak521


Didn't say that. It's been established some of the injuries are bad luck, concussions and broken bones aren't injuries that can be prevented, but have the Flyers had a litany of muscle strains, core injuries, etc..? Those are injuries that can be avoided at times.

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 4:18 PM ET
(frank)ing Timmy McCrossin
- jak521


I think you mean Jim McCrossin
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 5 @ 4:19 PM ET
Hopefully Ralph has a good diet recommendation that prevents broken feet and concussions. Otherwise might as well keep what we have.
- funmaster18


Status quo! If it's not broke, don't fix it! New motto!

Or maybe it should be if it is broke, don't look for solutions.
sg12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: W.Heights, NJ
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 5 @ 4:20 PM ET
am i the only one not ashamed of having Bob as a backup?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 5 @ 4:21 PM ET
Status quo! If it's not broke, don't fix it! New motto!

Or maybe it should be if it is broke, don't look for solutions.

- PLindbergh31


If you can find me a witch doctor that can prevent the type of injuries that plagued us this year let me know!
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:22 PM ET
Bob is not mentally tough. remember hes comments after last years playoff performance.
- Philly1980


You mean after Lava did his magic act? Any rookie goalie would have felt the same way. Should have just let him play.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 5 @ 4:23 PM ET
Didn't say that. It's been established some of the injuries are bad luck, concussions and broken bones aren't injuries that can be prevented, but have the Flyers had a litany of muscle strains, core injuries, etc..? Those are injuries that can be avoided at times.
- PLindbergh31


Find me a breakdown of the comparison between preventable injuries and those that aren't and we can see if you have a point. Or are you just making up whatever you want?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 5 @ 4:24 PM ET
I'm glad there's no middle ground between 'status quo' doing nothing and 'change for the sake of change' knee jerk reactions to everything.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 5 @ 4:26 PM ET
Find me a breakdown of the comparison between preventable injuries and those that aren't and we can see if you have a point. Or are you just making up whatever you want?
- funmaster18


I know I have a point. Don't need to find any comparisons, if you don't think core injuries can be prevented to an extent then I can't help you.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:28 PM ET
Status quo! If it's not broke, don't fix it! New motto!

Or maybe it should be if it is broke, don't look for solutions.

- PLindbergh31




Your funny.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 5 @ 4:29 PM ET
I know I have a point. Don't need to find any comparisons, if you don't think core injuries can be prevented to an extent then I can't help you.
- PLindbergh31


Actually, I asked you to show many of the flyers injuries have been "core injuries" that have been preventable. Not whether or not core injuries can be prevented.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:31 PM ET
please don't kill me for suggesting this, but would anyone see bob and read for the 2nd pick (columbus) as a good trade for both sides?
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 5 @ 4:33 PM ET
I dont understand how you can say a kid who hasnt done anything in this league will be a better net-minder than a guy who is a bonefide upper-echelon goaltender now. I respect your opinion... just seems more like something you want to believe than something that is being shown through play. Bob played very very well to start the year last year, and then saw a slide in his play... a slide that carried over into this season where he had a .899 save% and a 3.02gaa...


EDIT: Yes he is very young and what not, but I wanna see evidence before I can say I think he will be better... right now i dont think it will happen. But I would love to see him stay as a back up and continue to develop.

- jak521


He's been a number 1 goalie for a time in this league, a league where's he's only been in for 2 years now. So the fact that he made an NHL roster says he's done something. Sure he doesn't have the track record as Bryz but what goalie who's been in the league 2 years can compare to a guy who's been in the league 10, short of winning a cup?

He played sporadically at times this year and his play showed it. At times though he also played very well. I think you're selling Bob a bit short in my opinion.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 5 @ 4:33 PM ET
Actually, I asked you to show many of the flyers injuries have been "core injuries" that have been preventable. Not whether or not core injuries can be prevented.
- funmaster18


Didn't JVR have a core injury? I guess that is a bad example, a fruit fly had more of a shelf life than he did this year.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 5 @ 4:34 PM ET
please don't kill me for suggesting this, but would anyone see bob and read for the 2nd pick (columbus) as a good trade for both sides?
- flyerscup2011


Not for Columbus.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:34 PM ET
please don't kill me for suggesting this, but would anyone see bob and read for the 2nd pick (columbus) as a good trade for both sides?
- flyerscup2011


No way in hell they would do that. They being Columbus
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 5 @ 4:35 PM ET
please don't kill me for suggesting this, but would anyone see bob and read for the 2nd pick (columbus) as a good trade for both sides?
- flyerscup2011


I think Read's contract (900k cap hit) makes him a premium player for the Flyers. A 20+ goal scorer, and a responsible defensive forward with that price tag is like having a winning lottery ticket.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 5 @ 4:36 PM ET
Didn't JVR have a core injury? I guess that is a bad example, a fruit fly had more of a shelf life than he did this year.
- PLindbergh31


1 core injury? Fire the entire staff!
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 5 @ 4:36 PM ET
Bob is not mentally tough. remember hes comments after last years playoff performance.
- Philly1980



I find that hard to believe. He's one of the hardest workers in practice, something his goalie coach has noted. I don't think that's a sign of a guy who's not mentally tough. He made the team his first year coming over to North America, played away from his family and had to wait until he crossed the border into Canada to see his soon to be wife and still won 28 games as a rookie. Again not a guy who comes off to me as not mentally tough.

Gotta disagree there....
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 5 @ 4:38 PM ET
1 core injury? Fire the entire staff!
- funmaster18


Keep the entire staff, and lead the NHL in lost man games!

Keep everyone forever! When McCrossin dies, don't replace him, simply put an earn with his ashes on the bench.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:40 PM ET
I think Read's contract (900k cap hit) makes him a premium player for the Flyers. A 20+ goal scorer, and a responsible defensive forward with that price tag is like having a winning lottery ticket.
- PLindbergh31


i'd prefer the winning lottery ticket

moonwasaloon
Joined: 03.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:42 PM ET
I think Josh Harding would be a strong back up. I always liked them, it's a shame he got hurt. It's seems he had a bounce back season last year. I think he could be the next Brian Elliott.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 5 @ 4:42 PM ET
Keep the entire staff, and lead the NHL in lost man games!

Keep everyone forever! When McCrossin dies, don't replace him, simply put an earn with his ashes on the bench.

- PLindbergh31

Oh hyperbole, your overuse should be in an urn on someone's front porch.

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