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rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:31 PM ET
I guess I should have specified- he hasn't watched ANY hockey at all since being knocked out.

I don't see any problem with it.

- Giroux_Is_God


Yeah, Jagr said as much too. They were all pissed off. Had a feeling of leaving too much on the ice in that series.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 4 @ 11:32 PM ET
Ferraro said that Stevens is also responsible for getting Doughty to play a simpler, more responsible game too. He wasn't the problem in Philly.
- rockychocbill


What was the problem? All the same players are with him again in LA and winning
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 4 @ 11:32 PM ET
What was the problem? All the same players are with him again in LA and winning
- eayost


Media. In LA nobody cares.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:33 PM ET
Ferraro said that Stevens is also responsible for getting Doughty to play a simpler, more responsible game too. He wasn't the problem in Philly.
- rockychocbill


Apparently not. The Kings PK is incredible, a lot of it is Quick as the goaltender has to be your best penalty killer, but their system is sound.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:33 PM ET
What was the problem? All the same players are with him again in LA and winning
- eayost


3rd D pairing and goaltending.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:34 PM ET
Dude do you expect anything different? This is a staple in Philadelphia. Disappointment happens all the time. You have to look forward to next year.
- stveshdy


Looking forward to next year decade after decade gets old. Meh... Oh well.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 4 @ 11:35 PM ET
Ferraro said that Stevens is also responsible for getting Doughty to play a simpler, more responsible game too. He wasn't the problem in Philly.
- rockychocbill


I think he's a great teaching coach. Not a disciplinary coach. You can't coddle your friends or punish some guys (Upshall) while not doing the same to others.

He's a great assistant coach.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 4 @ 11:35 PM ET
What was the problem? All the same players are with him again in LA and winning
- eayost


Sutter is the head coach. Stevens is a great intermediary/player's coach. Perfect go-between for teams with a tough head coach.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 11:37 PM ET
I think he's a great teaching coach. Not a disciplinary coach. You can't coddle your friends or punish some guys (Upshall) while not doing the same to others.

He's a great assistant coach.

- Flyskippy


When the Flyers fire Laviolette in November, Stevens can return here.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:38 PM ET
I think he's a great teaching coach. Not a disciplinary coach. You can't coddle your friends or punish some guys (Upshall) while not doing the same to others.

He's a great assistant coach.

- Flyskippy


Just like Richards and Carter have fit in nicely on the ice, Stevens has fit in nicely behind the bench. Second fiddles help round out the orchestra.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 4 @ 11:40 PM ET
When the Flyers fire Laviolette in November, Stevens can return here.
- Jsaquella


Please no.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 4 @ 11:40 PM ET
Just like Richards and Carter have fit in nicely on the ice, Stevens has fit in nicely behind the bench. Second fiddles help round out the orchestra.
- rockychocbill

exactly...and don't forget Stevens baking skills
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:40 PM ET
Sutter is the head coach. Stevens is a great intermediary/player's coach. Perfect go-between for teams with a tough head coach.
- Flyskippy


Sutter has changed his approach though. Penner and Doughty have both said that he has a way of challenging you that makes you want to play for him.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 4 @ 11:40 PM ET
Sutter is the head coach. Stevens is a great intermediary/player's coach. Perfect go-between for teams with a tough head coach.
- Flyskippy


I pretty much agree with all that. I always thought Stevens was moved up too quickly. Some more time as an assistant with Hitch would have done some good. The team's play, and management, didn't really allow that to happen though.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 4 @ 11:41 PM ET
When the Flyers fire Laviolette in November, Stevens can return here.
- Jsaquella

Pfft. After the Flyers West Stanley Cup Parade down Broad Street (a la Ray Bourque's parade in Boston in 2001), I'll be a Kings fan and hate the Flyers for trading away players who all happened to end up in LA with their two former assistant GM's while blaming Paul Holmgren for the pathetic and embarrassing team they are stuck with for years to come.

rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:42 PM ET
Please no.
- stveshdy


Marc Crawford is still available.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 4 @ 11:43 PM ET
Sutter has changed his approach though. Penner and Doughty have both said that he has a way of challenging you that makes you want to play for him.
- rockychocbill


Well... the "tough" coaches have learned from their ways. Hitch said as much after he was fired by Dallas - that he called all of his former players and asked how he was wrong or what he could have done differently. Coaches like Roger Neilson and John Stevens are good, but I think fare better as assistants and buffers to general-like coaches such as Sutter, Tortorella, Laviolette, Keenan, etc.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:44 PM ET
Pfft. After the Flyers West Stanley Cup Parade down Broad Street (a la Ray Bourque's parade in Boston in 2001), I'll be a Kings fan and hate the Flyers for trading away players who all happened to end up in LA with their two former assistant GM's while blaming Paul Holmgren for the pathetic and embarrassing team they are stuck with for years to come.


- Flyskippy


Maybe the Kings will send us Bernier as a thank you gift.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 4 @ 11:44 PM ET
Pfft. After the Flyers West Stanley Cup Parade down Broad Street (a la Ray Bourque's parade in Boston in 2001), I'll be a Kings fan and hate the Flyers for trading away players who all happened to end up in LA with their two former assistant GM's while blaming Paul Holmgren for the pathetic and embarrassing team they are stuck with for years to come.


- Flyskippy


Hopefully they can figure out a way to move the puck up ice against a team that has an aggressive forecheck.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 4 @ 11:44 PM ET
Looking forward to next year decade after decade gets old. Meh... Oh well.
- PLindbergh31


Lots of things get old with repetition. Thankfully seasons are less frequent than daily internet complaints.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:44 PM ET
Well... the "tough" coaches have learned from their ways. Hitch said as much after he was fired by Dallas - that he called all of his former players and asked how he was wrong or what he could have done differently. Coaches like Roger Neilson and John Stevens are good, but I think fare better as assistants and buffers to general-like coaches such as Sutter, Tortorella, Laviolette, Keenan, etc.
- Flyskippy


Agreed. Larry Robinson too.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 4 @ 11:45 PM ET
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/04/flyers-maple-leafs-reportedly-also-went-after-vokoun/



Just so people know Im not just pulling stuff out my arse.

- aosplayo


Only possible logical explanations are:
1. They want to get rid of Bryz via trade or amnesty (both very unlikely)
or
2. Someone in the Flyers org is insane because they are smoking bath salts or been bit by a zombie.

Or
3. This isn't true.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 4 @ 11:45 PM ET
Hopefully they can figure out a way to move the puck up ice against a team that has an aggressive forecheck.
- stveshdy


I'm trying to figure out the same thing on this retarted video game I'm playing. Frustratingly pathetic. Quite embarrassing.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 11:45 PM ET
Lots of things get old with repetition. Thankfully seasons are less frequent than daily internet complaints.
- Flyskippy


Daily? One complaint a day would be miraculous
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 4 @ 11:46 PM ET
Agreed. Larry Robinson too.
- rockychocbill


Meh. Bunny hop celebrator hasn't been able to helm a team. He's a mere assistant coach nowadays.
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