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rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 4 @ 10:54 PM ET
my HIV test
- watsonnostaw


Magic!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 10:55 PM ET
He snapped at a question when a reporter asked if the Devils need more from Kovalchuk and Parise, he complained the whistle should have been blown on the Kings first goal.
- PLindbergh31


I would be doing the same thing if I was the Coach. His job right now is to rally his team. Defend his players, and politic for the next call. In countless situations that puck would've been blown dead.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 4 @ 10:56 PM ET
I would be doing the same thing if I was the Coach. His job right now is to rally his team. Defend his players, and politic for the next call. In countless situations that puck would've been blown dead.
- MJL


His team is toast. They can't score on the Kings.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jun 4 @ 10:56 PM ET
Papelbon giving up triples to .220 hitting shortstops.
- PLindbergh31

you're such a complainer.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 4 @ 10:56 PM ET
AFTER HE WAS STRUCK OUT.

IN A NON SAVE SITUATION.

NEVER PUT A CLOSER IN A NONSAVE SITUATION. I'VE SAID IT SINCE I WAS 15. IT NEVER WORKS. FOR ANY CLOSER. EVER. SO STOP DOING IT.

LOUD FRICKIN NOISES.

- Giroux_Is_God


It was a tie game in the 9th inning, at that point the closer for the home team isn't going to get a save chance, have to bring in your best relief pitcher in a tie game at home. Every manager does it.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 4 @ 10:56 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/cassiecampbell/2011/10/kings-have-found-leader-in-richards.html

written Oct 3rd


Richards has yet to win the Stanley Cup, but let's not forget he has a Calder Trophy, a Memorial Cup, a World Junior Championship Gold Medal (he captained the 2005 Canadian Dream Team) and an Olympic Gold. The fact of the matter is that Richards never underachieves in big games.

My guess is there will be big games for him in the near future in LA!

- Feeling_Glucky



If Richards was still in Philly, the Flyers wouldn't be in the finals right now.... My guess is the Kings still would be.

I am a fan of Richards and wished he wasn't traded but it worked out well for both teams.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 10:56 PM ET
AFTER HE WAS STRUCK OUT.

IN A NON SAVE SITUATION.

NEVER PUT A CLOSER IN A NONSAVE SITUATION. I'VE SAID IT SINCE I WAS 15. IT NEVER WORKS. FOR ANY CLOSER. EVER. SO STOP DOING IT.

LOUD FRICKIN NOISES.

- Giroux_Is_God


Most teams will use the closer in the top of the 9th in a tie game.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 4 @ 10:56 PM ET
yep and they lost 4 straight to these same Devils..
- Feeling_Glucky

This Flyers team wasn't even supposed to get that far. They blew away every expectation we had. This was supposed to be a rebuild year. Regardless of how they played against the Debs, this season is a huge success.
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 4 @ 10:57 PM ET
AFTER HE WAS STRUCK OUT.

IN A NON SAVE SITUATION.

NEVER PUT A CLOSER IN A NONSAVE SITUATION. I'VE SAID IT SINCE I WAS 15. IT NEVER WORKS. FOR ANY CLOSER. EVER. SO STOP DOING IT.

LOUD FRICKIN NOISES.

- Giroux_Is_God

are you on the ryne sandberg bandwagon sir
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 4 @ 10:57 PM ET
I agree with the NHL Network guys that the first goal should have been blown before it went it.... but Brodeur has gotten so many of those stupid goalie interference calls over the years (and past days/weeks), deal with it Marty.
Feeling_Glucky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 2024 Stanley Cup Champion, AZ
Joined: 08.18.2010

Jun 4 @ 10:57 PM ET
If Richards was still in Philly, the Flyers wouldn't be in the finals right now.... My guess is the Kings still would be.

I am a fan of Richards and wished he wasn't traded but it worked out well for both teams.

- rayc16

You are underestimating Richards contribution in leadership and on the ice. Penalty killing has been amazing and he takes pressure off Kopitar..
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM ET
It was a tie game in the 9th inning, at that point the closer for the home team isn't going to get a save chance, have to bring in your best relief pitcher in a tie game at home. Every manager does it.
- PLindbergh31


They dont have anyone else to go to thats the problem.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM ET
His team is toast. They can't score on the Kings.
- stveshdy


That may be true. But should he tell his team that or announce that at the press conference. I know you know the answer to that.

On another note, I don't know how you can be in the Finals and be labeled embarrassing. Hard to fathom that logic.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 4 @ 10:58 PM ET
If Richards was still in Philly, the Flyers wouldn't be in the finals right now.... My guess is the Kings still would be.

I am a fan of Richards and wished he wasn't traded but it worked out well for both teams.

- rayc16

2well
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 4 @ 10:59 PM ET
Most teams will use the closer in the top of the 9th in a tie game.
- MJL

I know. I hate it.

A closer feeds off that adrenaline rush of "saving" the game. It's just the way it is. It's not there in a non save situation. It's not the same mindset. And they get knocked around.

I hate seeing Chuck call the closer out in a tie game in the top of the 9th at home. Hate it. I blow a gasket every time.

And I know it's not only the Phils, but what do I care if other teams do it for- especially if the Phightins are playin them
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 4 @ 10:59 PM ET
His team is toast. They can't score on the Kings.
- stveshdy


meaningless Quick shutout.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 4 @ 11:00 PM ET
You are underestimating Richards contribution in leadership and on the ice. Penalty killing has been amazing and he takes pressure off Kopitar..
- Feeling_Glucky


Philly was holding him back from being the "true" player he is. This is a cursed city where careers are ruined.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:00 PM ET
They dont have anyone else to go to thats the problem.
- stveshdy


Papelbon has been pretty good. He got beat tonight by a lousy hitter, it happens sometimes. Phils needed that game tonight.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 11:01 PM ET
That may be true. But should he tell his team that or announce that at the press conference. I know you know the answer to that.

On another note, I don't know how you can be in the Finals and be labeled embarrassing. Hard to fathom that logic.

- MJL


Because there's zero (frank)ing logic being employed with that kind of statement.

Some folks should just get a thesaurus.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 4 @ 11:01 PM ET
are you on the ryne sandberg bandwagon sir
- flyfan1212

No comment.

I'm honestly indifferent to the manager. I don't think Ryne Sandberg can manage a team to the playoffs with Hector Luna batting (frank)ing cleanup any better than Connie Mack or Charlie Manuel can....
Feeling_Glucky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 2024 Stanley Cup Champion, AZ
Joined: 08.18.2010

Jun 4 @ 11:01 PM ET
Philly was holding him back from being the "true" player he is. This is a cursed city where careers are ruined.
- stveshdy

He was amazing in Philly too. Killed the Habs in 10.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 11:01 PM ET
You are underestimating Richards contribution in leadership and on the ice. Penalty killing has been amazing and he takes pressure off Kopitar..
- Feeling_Glucky


The additions of Carter and Richards have set up that entire team dynamic. It has enabled the Kings to move players into roles that they are best suited fo. An example is having Stoll as a 3rd line Center instead of a 2nd line Center. And Carter adds that big goal scoring Winger dynamic to the team. As well as Carter and Richards fitting in well to the Kings style because they are both strong defensively. Add that to what the kings already had which was very strong, and you've got a great team.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 4 @ 11:01 PM ET
That may be true. But should he tell his team that or announce that at the press conference. I know you know the answer to that.

On another note, I don't know how you can be in the Finals and be labeled embarrassing. Hard to fathom that logic.

- MJL


I don't think overall they are embarrassing bc the games were close. However tonight they got destroyed/dominated and that can be embarrassing. Its only one game but that game tonight was pretty much the series.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 4 @ 11:02 PM ET
not surprised by these finals...I liked LAs d and goalie by a wide margin.

I'm also not squeamish watching the kings beat the NJ like a drum, I'm lovin it. I think most of us here liked the trades we made and we recognized that carter and Richards weren't likely to get it done here as the lead dogs. sometimes trades are just what certain plyrs need to take that nxt step. add to that, Richards wasn't exactly sterling during the reg season and carter had his annual foot injury earlier in the yr...also don't mind seeing gags get his name on the cup.

go LA
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:02 PM ET
I agree with the NHL Network guys that the first goal should have been blown before it went it.... but Brodeur has gotten so many of those stupid goalie interference calls over the years (and past days/weeks), deal with it Marty.
- eayost


He lost sight of it no doubt. The replay angle confirmed it. But he could also see that Marty was not making an attempt to cover it with his glove. A goalie doesn't have to have it covered with his glove though. I agree with MJL that that would have been blown dead by 95% of the refs 95% of the time.
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