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RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 4 @ 4:55 PM ET
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- ob18


Bill wrote about it during the season, and has mentioned it since. I dont have the link, but you will find it in one of Bill's blogs.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 4 @ 4:57 PM ET
SO there's no other options out there other than Radulov?
- JoeRussomanno


Not at such a low cost with such a possible high reward.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 4 @ 4:57 PM ET
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- ob18

where are your manners sir?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 4:57 PM ET
Not at such a low cost with such a possible high reward.
- RooNosHockey

and a huge risk.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 4 @ 4:58 PM ET
there's no tagbacks, says it in the COC, special edition, all yours bro.
- JoeRussomanno


Ref didnt see your tag. Your still in bud. And I just hit you with a drop kick from the top rope.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 4 @ 4:59 PM ET
Not at all. Science teacher and watch the clip...hilarious. David Cross is my favorite. "Run Ronny Run" was classic.
- coffee junkie

One of my worst subjects. Lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:59 PM ET
Isn't he doing that by "taking a year off?"
- RooNosHockey


No, he still will have a year on his deal that he owes the Bruins which will pay him 3M.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 4 @ 5:00 PM ET
and a huge risk.
- JoeRussomanno


As long as there is no NMC there is no huge risk. You can waive him easy a pie. And if he doesnt pass, money is gone. If he does pass... Money is gone...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 5:00 PM ET
Ref didnt see your tag. Your still in bud. And I just hit you with a drop kick from the top rope.
- RooNosHockey

orlly? If so then I think you learned how to fight at the same place as this guy
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 4 @ 5:00 PM ET
Just speculating that. But I have no information to support other then thinking out loud.
- MJL


something literally stinks about this whole situation
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 5:00 PM ET
where are your manners sir?
- aightwebang17


Hello to you
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 4 @ 5:01 PM ET
No, he still will have a year on his deal that he owes the Bruins which will pay him 3M.
- MJL

Right... and you think he is going to play? They will just trade him then if this was just a stunt to keep from being traded now... It doesnt change the fact they could trade him later...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 5:02 PM ET
As long as there is no NMC there is no huge risk. You can waive him easy a pie. And if he doesnt pass, money is gone. If he does pass... Money is gone...
- RooNosHockey


First of all why do you keep mentioning a NMC. There couldn't be one. Secondly, how is there no risk? You would have to trade foe him. And you risk losing those assets if he doesn't perform. You also risk losing that Cap space that you could've used on someone else. So how is there no risk?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 5:03 PM ET
As long as there is no NMC there is no huge risk. You can waive him easy a pie. And if he doesnt pass, money is gone. If he does pass... Money is gone...
- RooNosHockey

why do that when you forego the much stronger possibility of bringing in a player that will be a regular contributor, positive influence and impact? IF Radulov wanted to stay in the NHL so bad he would have done it years ago. I'm not anywhere near convinced he's learned his lesson nor should any GM especially Holmgren, I'm really done with this now, you want to go for him, be my guest but imo the Flyers should have learned their lesson already, cough Zheredev.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 5:03 PM ET
Right... and you think he is going to play? They will just trade him then if this was just a stunt to keep from being traded now... It doesnt change the fact they could trade him later...
- RooNosHockey


Your right. But the guy doesn't seem all there. So I don't know what is going through his head. But he is scheming something.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 5:04 PM ET
First of all why do you keep mentioning a NMC. There couldn't be one. Secondly, how is there no risk? You would have to trade foe him. And you risk losing those assets if he doesn't perform. You also risk losing that Cap space that you could've used on someone else. So how is there no risk?
- MJL

that's the other thing I keep forgetting he's an RFA which makes it a non issue as far as I'm concerned. If we were in the middle of a season where the team just needed a little bit of offense and that guy was sitting on waivers with a half a season remaining undercontract then maybe but otherwise no thanks, I'm moving on now.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 4 @ 5:09 PM ET
First of all why do you keep mentioning a NMC. There couldn't be one. Secondly, how is there no risk? You would have to trade foe him. And you risk losing those assets if he doesn't perform. You also risk losing that Cap space that you could've used on someone else. So how is there no risk?
- MJL


Well, Firstly the asking price is pretty low. Plus you can set up conditional terms in the trade... if he signs, and if he plays x many games...

Secondly, Parise will give you 30 goals and 60 points at mostlikely somewhere near 7 to 7.5 million... If Radulov performs like he can, he should be able to do about the same for less then half the cap hit.

And if he doesn't, you can waive him and there is your extra cap space.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 4 @ 5:10 PM ET
Your right. But the guy doesn't seem all there. So I don't know what is going through his head. But he is scheming something.
- MJL


I'm telling you.. Peggy screwed him over, and the Bruins wouldnt pay for the dog-gone cab fair... and he had to do awful, awful things....
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 4 @ 5:12 PM ET
why do that when you forego the much stronger possibility of bringing in a player that will be a regular contributor, positive influence and impact? IF Radulov wanted to stay in the NHL so bad he would have done it years ago. I'm not anywhere near convinced he's learned his lesson nor should any GM especially Holmgren, I'm really done with this now, you want to go for him, be my guest but imo the Flyers should have learned their lesson already, cough Zheredev.
- JoeRussomanno


I'm going to pick him up in my fantasy league. Poo-poo on you.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 5:12 PM ET
I'm going to pick him up in my fantasy league. Poo-poo on you.
- RooNosHockey

go for it
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 4 @ 5:14 PM ET
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- ob18

http://www.csnphilly.com/...ith-Flyers?blockID=634290

Thats one where he states it is not about money. He also mentions about being happy. In his blog he makes mention of it more in depth. I am on my phone which makes it difficult to do research. A google search should help.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 5:14 PM ET
Well, Firstly the asking price is pretty low. Plus you can set up conditional terms in the trade... if he signs, and if he plays x many games...

Secondly, Parise will give you 30 goals and 60 points at mostlikely somewhere near 7 to 7.5 million... If Radulov performs like he can, he should be able to do about the same for less then half the cap hit.

And if he doesn't, you can waive him and there is your extra cap space.

- RooNosHockey


Firstly, how do you know what the asking price is? And in my opinion, if they're asking for Jody Shelley, that's too high of a price. Exaggeration yes, but it illustrates my point.

Secondly, Parise playing on the Flyers will give you far more then 30 goals and 60 points. Not to mention that you would be adding a proven player who plays with heart and soul and whose work ethic and character can't be questioned. So you couldn't be more off base there.

And who cares about waiving him. With the Flyers using LTIR they can't bank Cap space. And that space will already be spent that could've been used for another player.

There is a lot of risk there. And it's not worth taking.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 4 @ 5:14 PM ET
that's the other thing I keep forgetting he's an RFA which makes it a non issue as far as I'm concerned. If we were in the middle of a season where the team just needed a little bit of offense and that guy was sitting on waivers with a half a season remaining undercontract then maybe but otherwise no thanks, I'm moving on now.
- JoeRussomanno


I'll make you a friendly bet. If an NHL team picks up Radulov, he will score more goals then everyone that is an UFA this year except Semin and Parise. No money, just friendly "I told you so" next off-season.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 5:17 PM ET
I'll make you a friendly bet. If an NHL team picks up Radulov, he will score more goals then everyone that is an UFA this year except Semin and Parise. No money, just friendly "I told you so" next off-season.
- RooNosHockey

It's not just about scoring goals. That is great when you have players who can score but there's a lot more to it then that and the Flyers are not a team in need of goals.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 5:18 PM ET
It's not just about scoring goals. That is great when you have players who can score but there's a lot more to it then that and the Flyers are not a team in need of goals.
- JoeRussomanno


Exactly Joe. So much more to the game then scoring goals. Flyers don't have problems scoring goals.
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