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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 4 @ 3:35 PM ET
I guess my question is...how can the Bruins be OK with this and if he breaks his contract why should the Bruins be penalized?
- Dkos

Here is my only rationale. He went to the Bruins and told them he was thinking about retiring.. he wants to spend time with his family and focus on faith and what not. They know they are stuck regardless, so they extended this offer to him. Take the year off, and finish that last year fresh, and try to go out witrh a bang.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 3:35 PM ET
so he is going to count against their cap then correct?
- JoeRussomanno



Yes unless there is some obscure rule relating to a suspended player that I'm unaware of.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 4 @ 3:36 PM ET
No it is not right. Thomas is literally screwing the Bruins.
- MJL

At the very least, they can save their real dollars by suspending him, correct? Doesn't help their cap dollars, but it's something. I'd agree it's irresponsible of him to do this.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
Is how good a player is, any factor in how much he get's paid?
- MJL

I dont know. Ask Ville Leino.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
No it is not right. Thomas is literally screwing the Bruins.
- MJL

agreed. you would think he would try to fake an injury and give the damn Bs an LTIR allowance. oh, what do i care. I love it that they have to eat a $5Mpoopsandwich.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
I'm not telling the Flyers to go hang all thier post-season moves on getting Radulov... I'm just saying, if you can get him cheap it would be a low risk, high reward type of gamble.

You say they can use that money for someone else. I dont see a lot of guys out there other then Parise and Semin that can do what Radulov currently can, and still have his potential up-side. I also don't think you will get either of those players, and I know you wont be able to sign them anywhere near a low as you might be able to get Radulov for.

If you are able to sign him for a decent price, then you will be able to trade some offense like Bill said for the Defense you need. And it also keeps him off the Rangers, since they are looking in getting him.

- RooNosHockey



What exactly is it that Radulov can currently do? I would have zero interest under any circumstances. And I pray the Flyers feel the same way. He is the last thing this team needs.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
No it is not right. Thomas is literally screwing the Bruins.
- MJL


I thought he was supposed to have morals? I can understand being burned out playing pro sports, but he's got think of a better way to handle this.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
At the very least, they can save their real dollars by suspending him, correct? Doesn't help their cap dollars, but it's something. I'd agree it's irresponsible of him to do this.
- BulliesPhan87

I wanna know the whole background of this. They (the org) seem way to willing to allow this. Suspending him will prevent him from collecting the pay, but the cap hit will not change.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 4 @ 3:38 PM ET
No it is not right. Thomas is literally screwing the Bruins.
- MJL


You guys are a bunch of jerks. I just told my boss that I don't want to work this year, and that I am over 35.

I just got fired (I guess you could say waived).

I'm pretty sure these rules are unique to hockey and not everywhere, right?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 4 @ 3:39 PM ET
the other thing that doesn't sit well with me is Thomas' comment that he wants to concentrate on family, friends and faith. Why can't he do that and still keep his job? I do. I'm willing to bet he has a lot more free time per year than I do.
- Dkos


Thomas has been a notoriously bad team guy. At least Rask will get another shot at being the starter. I think he'll be a premier goalie in this league. He showed glimpses of his abilities in 2010 and last year prior to his injury.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 3:39 PM ET
I dont know. Ask Ville Leino.
- RooNosHockey



Not all decisions teams make are good ones. But the jury is still out on that one. Another example of a bad potential move is a team like the Flyers spinning the dice with a malcontent player such as Radulov.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 4 @ 3:39 PM ET
I don't know where you heard that about him and NY, was never the case
- jimbro83

Even if he did (I had heard him described by some as a 'prima donna', for what it's worth), Jagr has a much, much more reliable resumé and had much more time to even out these alleged attitude problems. Is Radulov going to have the same sort of epiphany over the course of one off season?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 4 @ 3:40 PM ET
there could be people upset.
- phi1671



there are ALWAYS people upset
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 3:40 PM ET
Here is my only rationale. He went to the Bruins and told them he was thinking about retiring.. he wants to spend time with his family and focus on faith and what not. They know they are stuck regardless, so they extended this offer to him. Take the year off, and finish that last year fresh, and try to go out witrh a bang.
- jak521



Doesn't Thomas have a window in his contract where the Bruins can trade him?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 4 @ 3:40 PM ET
I wanna know the whole background of this. They (the org) seem way to willing to allow this. Suspending him will prevent him from collecting the pay, but the cap hit will not change.
- jak521


exactly...imagine if Bryz said, "I'm not playing next year because I want to concentrate of family, friends and the humogusness of the universe"
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 4 @ 3:42 PM ET
Doesn't Thomas have a window in his contract where the Bruins can trade him?
- MJL

I thought he had a full nmc.. could be wrong. Even still, if he wanted to retire, that wouldnt help them.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 3:42 PM ET
I don't know where you heard that about him and NY, was never the case
- jimbro83

i seem to also remember him having some good seasons there especially his last playoff series I think he put a bunch of points but that was 5 years ago so I'm hazy on that. Either way I know there was some buzz about him being a prima-donna but for the most part Jagr has been an elite player through two decades and could have retired 10 years ago and still be a hall of famer, its definitely a weak comparison.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 4 @ 3:42 PM ET
You guys are a bunch of jerks. I just told my boss that I don't want to work this year, and that I am over 35.

I just got fired (I guess you could say waived).

I'm pretty sure these rules are unique to hockey and not everywhere, right?

- Daman


once again...huh?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 4 @ 3:42 PM ET
I wanna know the whole background of this. They (the org) seem way to willing to allow this. Suspending him will prevent him from collecting the pay, but the cap hit will not change.
- jak521

I'm guessing the 'whatever, we'll deal with it' attitude the organization is taking is trying to not let it have an increased negative impact on the team. I'm sure there's plenty of angst over it behind closed doors. That said, I'm also curious about what's so important to Thomas that he'd do something so crass.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 4 @ 3:42 PM ET
exactly...imagine if Bryz said, "I'm not playing next year because I want to concentrate of family, friends and the humogusness of the universe"
- Dkos

Philadelphia would end up like Mtl. Cars would burn.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 3:43 PM ET
Doesn't Thomas have a window in his contract where the Bruins can trade him?
- MJL

nope he has the big padlock thing next to his name on capgeek.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 4 @ 3:43 PM ET
I'm guessing the 'whatever, we'll deal with it' attitude the organization is taking is trying to not let it have an increased negative impact on the team. I'm sure there's plenty of angst over it behind closed doors. That said, I'm also curious about what's so important to Thomas that he'd do something so crass.
- BulliesPhan87

I think he wants to retire. Honest opinion.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 3:43 PM ET
Philadelphia would end up like Mtl. Cars would burn.
- jak521

if he did that it would be incumbent upon him to move at least a thousand miles away.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 4 @ 3:44 PM ET
You guys are a bunch of jerks. I just told my boss that I don't want to work this year, and that I am over 35.

I just got fired (I guess you could say waived).

I'm pretty sure these rules are unique to hockey and not everywhere, right?

- Daman

Next time, don't take amateur commentary on the actions of a contracted employee's actions as advice on voluntary employment
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 4 @ 3:45 PM ET
if he did that it would be incumbent upon him to move at least a thousand miles away.
- JoeRussomanno

Prolly should just move to Boston... they dont recognize him without his equipment. (paging Peggy).
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