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Leaffan8113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Quit listening to Dreger. He', ON
Joined: 01.10.2012

Jun 3 @ 12:13 PM ET
Most of this is just me having fun until tee off time, that said, I don't think it's common public knowledge that he's asked for a trade. Pure speculation! Gillis loves this guy and he may stay here, because Gillis may trade Schneider.

As for choosing Columbus over Toronto, of course a player would...what the hell is the difference really? Who's the last big time free agent to sign in Toronto? Komisarek? Over the past five years which team has actually made the playoffs once? Who's had the worse record over those five years? You may think you're so much better than Columbus because you're the mighty Toronto...news flash...you're just as bad as they are!

Toronto has or was suppose to draft - 5th, 9th, 2nd, 7th & 7th overall.
Columbus was to draft - 2nd, 8th, 4th, 16th & 6th overall.

- LeftCoaster

feel better?
but how many cups do you have?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:14 PM ET
Deal ...... That was easy... It was nice doing business with you
- The_Vark


Everyone would be happy. You don't want our crap and we sure don't want yours, so that is why I can not see a deal between these two teams.
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jun 3 @ 12:17 PM ET
Everyone would be happy. You don't want our crap and we sure don't want yours, so that is why I can not see a deal between these two teams.
- VANTEL

We ain't the gms thats the prob
vancitydan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: not a Luongo hater, AV bater, , BC
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:18 PM ET

Lord help them, they just don't get it......

- Phenom


Dude...you look pretty stupid right now.

Its right there on NHL.com

Under career save %. Find a guy currently playing with better than a .919 over 11 years.

Guys like Lundqvist have a 920 over 5-6-7 years.

NO ONE has a better save % over a longer period.

Thats OK, just a simple, "I'm sorry that I am a Leaf fan that knows no better" will suffice...
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:19 PM ET
Not a freaking chance in helllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Komisarek comes in the trade. Why would the Canucks trade a future hall of fame goalie still in his goalie prime years signed to a reasonable cap hit take back a player who would be a 6th defenseman making 4+ million are you crazy ek? Your "sources" are crazy than and they shouldn't even be in the position they are in. Freaking embarrassing. Jake Gardiner way off base? unless he becomes a number one defenseman than yes, but I don't see it and a goalie is a lot more important than a top 4 defenseman no matter the age. Especially one that's put up the consistent career as Luongo. Goalies come and go but Luongo is always and will always be near the top at his position. The flavor of the months and years come and go. Also, the Canucks don't have to trade Luongo and they dont have to trade him to the Leafs. Luongo would take the Leafs to the playoffs and Burke better move accordingly. Otherwise he wont get a premier goalie and he'll be fired when they miss the playoffs. Quit talking out of your a** ek it's getting tiresome. Quit listening to Dreger. He's trying to drive the price down for his cousin Nonis.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:22 PM ET
Most of this is just me having fun until tee off time, that said, I don't think it's common public knowledge that he's asked for a trade. Pure speculation! Gillis loves this guy and he may stay here, because Gillis may trade Schneider.

As for choosing Columbus over Toronto, of course a player would...what the hell is the difference really? Who's the last big time free agent to sign in Toronto? Komisarek? Over the past five years which team has actually made the playoffs once? Who's had the worse record over those five years? You may think you're so much better than Columbus because you're the mighty Toronto...news flash...you're just as bad as they are!

Toronto has or was suppose to draft - 5th, 9th, 2nd, 7th & 7th overall.
Columbus was to draft - 2nd, 8th, 4th, 16th & 6th overall.

- LeftCoaster


First of all.....good luck on the links.

Secondly......no matter how much Gillis likes him, he has to get rid of that contract and if not that's a distraction for the team going forward. Unless of course he deals Schneider, which will get him a much better return. Just not sure he'd rather do that.

Thirdly......Toronto is a world class city and regardless of the media scrutiny, a fantastic place to play hockey, many players have stated. Not to mention the fact the Leafs have a much better outlook going forward than Columbus does. And a UFA has a choice to go anywhere, so yeah they go to a contender. But someone like Luongo, who has choices but limited options, I'm sure he'd choose Toronto over Columbus....as would 90% of NHL players.
Buff_jordan14
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:22 PM ET
Most of this is just me having fun until tee off time, that said, I don't think it's common public knowledge that he's asked for a trade. Pure speculation! Gillis loves this guy and he may stay here, because Gillis may trade Schneider.

As for choosing Columbus over Toronto, of course a player would...what the hell is the difference really? Who's the last big time free agent to sign in Toronto? Komisarek? Over the past five years which team has actually made the playoffs once? Who's had the worse record over those five years? You may think you're so much better than Columbus because you're the mighty Toronto...news flash...you're just as bad as they are!

Toronto has or was suppose to draft - 5th, 9th, 2nd, 7th & 7th overall.
Columbus was to draft - 2nd, 8th, 4th, 16th & 6th overall.

- LeftCoaster


Luongo is DONE in Vancouver. It is public knowledge because about two weeks ago Vigneault said he asked for a trade. It was written, it was on tsn, it was all over. Furthermore a few days later when talking to the media Gillis said he would talk to Luongo to see if he still wanted a trade. The management has said this, not Luongo. Taking two seconds to google search would have found numerous articles from legitimate sources about how this is indeed public knowledge. Schneider is their new goalie, the end.
Leaffan8113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Quit listening to Dreger. He', ON
Joined: 01.10.2012

Jun 3 @ 12:22 PM ET
Not a freaking chance in helllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Komisarek comes in the trade. Why would the Canucks trade a future hall of fame goalie still in his goalie prime years signed to a reasonable cap hit take back a player who would be a 6th defenseman making 4+ million are you crazy ek? Your "sources" are crazy than and they shouldn't even be in the position they are in. Freaking embarrassing. Jake Gardiner way off base? unless he becomes a number one defenseman than yes, but I don't see it and a goalie is a lot more important than a top 4 defenseman no matter the age. Especially one that's put up the consistent career as Luongo. Goalies come and go but Luongo is always and will always be near the top at his position. The flavor of the months and years come and go. Also, the Canucks don't have to trade Luongo and they dont have to trade him to the Leafs. Luongo would take the Leafs to the playoffs and Burke better move accordingly. Otherwise he wont get a premier goalie and he'll be fired when they miss the playoffs. Quit talking out of your a** ek it's getting tiresome. Quit listening to Dreger. He's trying to drive the price down for his cousin Nonis.
- Boinker

You made my morning. Thank you.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 3 @ 12:24 PM ET
awful timing for the nucks. must be luongos revenge for being benched in the playoffs. there are many options for goalies in the league this year. luongo is one of the better ones skill wise, but cap and term put a dent in his value. his request for a trade really hurt the nucks. teams can decrease their offers now. the leafs.. komi + another asset (but not the 1st or gardiner etc) (it would be a 2nd rounder up pick or a B prospect). Certainly not worth a goalie of luongos skill, but the nucks need to trade and the rest of the league can look elsewhere. sorry nucks fans... luongo did this to you
Buff_jordan14
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:24 PM ET
What Leaf fan has said giving up Komi would be too much?

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:24 PM ET
We ain't the gms thats the prob
- The_Vark



We have to use common sense here.

Mtl Tor Van all fight for top billing in Canada, as the Nations best team.The other markets are making a push for it ,but because of the size of the city ,it is the 3 mentioned.

Vancouver out of the goodness of their heart are going to send Luongo to Toronto to help them finally make the playoffs for the first time in almost a decade.Vancouver's GM who abolutlely loves Luongo is going to send him to TO , a team in the bottom part of the league for a player who has an enormous salary, and a hard time finding a spot on the line up.

I bet Gillis is hoping you take the Sedins also in return for Kadri.

Gillis would be ran out of town if he took that deal.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:25 PM ET
Dude...you look pretty stupid right now.

Its right there on NHL.com

Under career save %. Find a guy currently playing with better than a .919 over 11 years.

Guys like Lundqvist have a 920 over 5-6-7 years.

NO ONE has a better save % over a longer period.

Thats OK, just a simple, "I'm sorry that I am a Leaf fan that knows no better" will suffice...

- vancitydan


It's hilarious. I can't even comprehend how stupid it sounds when fans think Luongo will be had for nothing. He's actually signed to a good contract. His cap hit is extremely reasonable and he's got only 6 years left with that wink wink nudge nudge contract. No goalie has had as consistent career as Luongo over the last ten years. Brodeur may have his cups but his career save % is pretty freaking low for the systems in which he's played. Stick Luongo with behind Lemaires systems and he'd be considered one of the best ever........
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Jun 3 @ 12:26 PM ET
Not a freaking chance in helllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Komisarek comes in the trade. Why would the Canucks trade a future hall of fame goalie still in his goalie prime years signed to a reasonable cap hit take back a player who would be a 6th defenseman making 4+ million are you crazy ek? Your "sources" are crazy than and they shouldn't even be in the position they are in. Freaking embarrassing. Jake Gardiner way off base? unless he becomes a number one defenseman than yes, but I don't see it and a goalie is a lot more important than a top 4 defenseman no matter the age. Especially one that's put up the consistent career as Luongo. Goalies come and go but Luongo is always and will always be near the top at his position. The flavor of the months and years come and go. Also, the Canucks don't have to trade Luongo and they dont have to trade him to the Leafs. Luongo would take the Leafs to the playoffs and Burke better move accordingly. Otherwise he wont get a premier goalie and he'll be fired when they miss the playoffs. Quit talking out of your a** ek it's getting tiresome. Quit listening to Dreger. He's trying to drive the price down for his cousin Nonis.
- Boinker



Future Hall of Fame goalie? Based on what? A Jennings trophy and a Clarence Campbell Cup? He's good yes but he hasn't earned Hall of Fame mention consideration yet.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:27 PM ET
Dude...you look pretty stupid right now.

Its right there on NHL.com

Under career save %. Find a guy currently playing with better than a .919 over 11 years.

Guys like Lundqvist have a 920 over 5-6-7 years.

NO ONE has a better save % over a longer period.

Thats OK, just a simple, "I'm sorry that I am a Leaf fan that knows no better" will suffice...

- vancitydan


I look pretty stupid? Really? I didn't dispute the stat you posted, that was someone else. I'd question it, but I don't know for sure......

I merely laugh at the thought you think you'll be getting fair value for him when he's dealt. It will not happen. The variable in the situation leave the Canucks with their hands tied. It's reality of the situation. The 'Nucks hold zero cards here.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:28 PM ET
Luongo is DONE in Vancouver. It is public knowledge because about two weeks ago Vigneault said he asked for a trade. It was written, it was on tsn, it was all over. Furthermore a few days later when talking to the media Gillis said he would talk to Luongo to see if he still wanted a trade. The management has said this, not Luongo. Taking two seconds to google search would have found numerous articles from legitimate sources about how this is indeed public knowledge. Schneider is their new goalie, the end.
- Buff_jordan14



So how does that translate into Luongo to Tor for crap?

Why does Vancouver want to push TO over the top and take their rejects?
Old Pappy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.06.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:31 PM ET
So you actually think Komisarek straight up would be enough? You would have to add something. Is Reimer really that elite goalie you've been looking for. It doesn't look like Kadri and Toronto is fitting that's why I added him. Maybe the 1st round was too much but at least a 2nd has to be thrown in there. But honestly I thought

To Toronto: Roberto Loungo, Van 1st round draft pick 2012
To Vancouver: Nasim Kadri, Mike Komisarek, Tor 1st round draft pick 2012.

was fair. Toronto has to give up something, Komisarek is nothing but a salary dump he's not a hot commodity that Toronto's holding on to he's a salary dump.

- sheam316


Loungo is the Salary dump here. Komi straight up would work for Van, believe me. They have no choice but to deal him now.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:31 PM ET
awful timing for the nucks. must be luongos revenge for being benched in the playoffs. there are many options for goalies in the league this year. luongo is one of the better ones skill wise, but cap and term put a dent in his value. his request for a trade really hurt the nucks. teams can decrease their offers now. the leafs.. komi + another asset (but not the 1st or gardiner etc) (it would be a 2nd rounder up pick or a B prospect). Certainly not worth a goalie of luongos skill, but the nucks need to trade and the rest of the league can look elsewhere. sorry nucks fans... luongo did this to you
- ChrisMS


Why is this so hard for them to understand????
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:31 PM ET
Eeekay, what will happen with Olli Jokinen
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:31 PM ET
Future Hall of Fame goalie? Based on what? A Jennings trophy and a Clarence Campbell Cup? He's good yes but he hasn't earned Hall of Fame mention consideration yet.
- Kinger34

I don't see Luongo as a hall of famer.
Old Pappy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.06.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:33 PM ET
So how does that translate into Luongo to Tor for crap?

Why does Vancouver want to push TO over the top and take their rejects?

- VANTEL


It translates to that because VAN has no choice. They're not dealing from a position of strength here - to TOR or any other team..Loungo's value has diminished greatly because of the contract he signed, and his unwillingness to co-exist - or Schnieder's unwillingness to - in Van with a tandem where he's not the clear number one. Van would be in a jackpot if they stall on this and allow Schnieder to be offer sheeted.
optimus-reim
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jun 3 @ 12:33 PM ET
I want Kassian if we're taking 64M off of the Nucks.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:33 PM ET
So how does that translate into Luongo to Tor for crap?

Why does Vancouver want to push TO over the top and take their rejects?

- VANTEL


They don't WANT to. They might HAVE to. Big difference.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:34 PM ET
Loungo is the Salary dump here. Komi straight up would work for Van, believe me. They have no choice but to deal him now.
- Old Pappy



So Lu to TO for Komi is better than Lu to NYI for a 2 nd? To me that would be a better salary dump if one was required.
Canadian kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.28.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:36 PM ET
This thread is going to be nuts, lol.

I honestly don't think the Leafs end up with a tender anyone is thinking about. Hell, I don't even know if we end up with a tender.

Burke, Nonis and Morrison have all talked around this FA class...trades/demotions are going to be the line of the day in Leaf land this summer. Let's hope, anyway.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:37 PM ET
What Leaf fan has said giving up Komi would be too much?
- Buff_jordan14


The ones who feed Ek his information maybe???
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