Why would Gillis confirm it? It lowers his value

Luongo hasnt talked since that story broke
- cor99

He does on twitter

But, but, but it's been reported......
- golfingsince

Except that was a made up deal that they wanted to see, not something they were saying that could happen

Just Boinker
- VANTEL

and Scoobs (although its hard to tell if hes kidding)

I think a fair value would be a top 4 Dman/top 6 player... and a pick... thats what its going to end up being.. OR 2 decent prospects.

I still think Malone and 1st (Dets) is the the most fair and realistic deal. Tampa frees up some cap space up front... and we get a big top 6 winger.

Except that was a made up deal that they wanted to see, not something they were saying that could happen
- cor99

You do realize Eks insider source is a teen with a twitter account right?

I do too... but it was suggested by a media person... which just shows how many different people view Lu as a player.

And all that really matters is how the GM's/organization views that player... not what any of us think. And its quite obvious that 2 of the teams that need a goalie more than anyone believe Lu is a top tier... elite goalie... and if thats the case... the return will surprise many people.
- kneughter

Doubtful.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1177727

That page has quotes

It was sportsnet that first reported it

Here's the sportsnet link

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...to_luongo_asks_for_trade/
- cor99

Of course Vancouver management will deny it...its called damage control. Lu's contract is hindering his value enough! Add the demand to be moved and a NTC + your young stud goalie hitting RFA... I'm sorry to say but Vancouver is up poop creek with this situation.

What I find interesting is; Do the Leafs need Luongo? Sure! Do they want Luongo? sure most teams would! Do they have to get him? Nope! Luongo is an option for the Leafs but it needs to make sense to them..not the Canucks!

Take the trades for Richards and Carter. Both with long term contracts and see what they fetched. These players are under 30 still hitting their prime where as Luongo is not. Keep in mind these players didn't have NTC at the time of the trades and could of went anywhere and are fwds and not goalies(limited suitors). So Vancouver has limited options. Similar to Rick Nash, but Nash is a fwd which expands the possible trade partners but has a NTC which limits CBJ choices, not to mention a large contract as well.

Vancouver has little say in this matter.

Komi will be part of the deal to make it work cap wise, just as Lupul was in the Beauchemin deal. In the salary cap world its contracts that are traded not players.

Komi + 2nd + B prospect for Luongo + 9 years of cap space (minus the one for Komi's contract)


The Leafs have the Nucks at their mercy if we are one of 2 options, simple as that.

and Scoobs (although its hard to tell if hes kidding)

I think a fair value would be a top 4 Dman/top 6 player... and a pick... thats what its going to end up being.. OR 2 decent prospects.

I still think Malone and 1st (Dets) is the the most fair and realistic deal. Tampa frees up some cap space up front... and we get a big top 6 winger.
- kneughter

ROFL... I think you won't be around to defend your dumbass opinion when it is proven wrong anyway, so you might as well throw another 1st rounder or two into what you think is a fair deal.

and Scoobs (although its hard to tell if hes kidding)

I think a fair value would be a top 4 Dman/top 6 player... and a pick... thats what its going to end up being.. OR 2 decent prospects.

I still think Malone and 1st (Dets) is the the most fair and realistic deal. Tampa frees up some cap space up front... and we get a big top 6 winger.
- kneughter

I'm Van I jump on that ...to bad Malone has a NMC...which brings Gillis back to Toronto.

Now what??

I do too... but it was suggested by a media person... which just shows how many different people view Lu as a player.

And all that really matters is how the GM's/organization views that player... not what any of us think. And its quite obvious that 2 of the teams that need a goalie more than anyone believe Lu is a top tier... elite goalie... and if thats the case... the return will surprise many people.
- kneughter

I wouldn't be surprised if he found someone else willing to over pay, middle of the pack team lu changes his mind about, problem is leafs have very little and are not really willing to give it all up for 1 player during a rebuild, We don't really make very good trade partners do we?

Unless that is if brass feels we should give up everything for him, then there is not really anything we can do as fans except piss and moan. Someones getting screwed, I hope to heck it is not us for once....lol

and Scoobs (although its hard to tell if hes kidding)

I think a fair value would be a top 4 Dman/top 6 player... and a pick... thats what its going to end up being.. OR 2 decent prospects.

I still think Malone and 1st (Dets) is the the most fair and realistic deal. Tampa frees up some cap space up front... and we get a big top 6 winger.
- kneughter

I think you just posted about being surprised by the return Lou will bring...... if you think that's the return you're going to be surprised (in a bad way)

and Scoobs (although its hard to tell if hes kidding)

I think a fair value would be a top 4 Dman/top 6 player... and a pick... thats what its going to end up being.. OR 2 decent prospects.

I still think Malone and 1st (Dets) is the the most fair and realistic deal. Tampa frees up some cap space up front... and we get a big top 6 winger.
- kneughter

I could see Schenn straight up but not a salary dump Komi.

Why would Gillis confirm it? It lowers his value

Luongo hasnt talked since that story broke
- cor99

Really?

Why would Lu deny it? That just makes it harder for himself to be traded if he wants out?

Of course Vancouver management will deny it...its called damage control. Lu's contract is hindering his value enough! Add the demand to be moved and a NTC + your young stud goalie hitting RFA... I'm sorry to say but Vancouver is up poop creek with this situation.

What I find interesting is; Do the Leafs need Luongo? Sure! Do they want Luongo? sure most teams would! Do they have to get him? Nope! Luongo is an option for the Leafs but it needs to make sense to them..not the Canucks!

Take the trades for Richards and Carter. Both with long term contracts and see what they fetched. These players are under 30 still hitting their prime where as Luongo is not. Keep in mind these players didn't have NTC at the time of the trades and could of went anywhere and are fwds and not goalies(limited suitors). So Vancouver has limited options. Similar to Rick Nash, but Nash is a fwd which expands the possible trade partners but has a NTC which limits CBJ choices, not to mention a large contract as well.

Vancouver has little say in this matter.

Komi will be part of the deal to make it work cap wise, just as Lupul was in the Beauchemin deal. In the salary cap world its contracts that are traded not players.

Komi + 2nd + B prospect for Luongo + 9 years of cap space (minus the one for Komi's contract)


The Leafs have the Nucks at their mercy if we are one of 2 options, simple as that.
- StanleyCupDreams

Option 3 : Canucks keep luongo who only stated that if he was going to be traded he would pick these 5 teams he never said he wanted to go for sure. Besides I'd rather keep luongo as a back up then help the leafs

Of course Vancouver management will deny it...its called damage control. Lu's contract is hindering his value enough! Add the demand to be moved and a NTC + your young stud goalie hitting RFA... I'm sorry to say but Vancouver is up poop creek with this situation.

What I find interesting is; Do the Leafs need Luongo? Sure! Do they want Luongo? sure most teams would! Do they have to get him? Nope! Luongo is an option for the Leafs but it needs to make sense to them..not the Canucks!

Take the trades for Richards and Carter. Both with long term contracts and see what they fetched. These players are under 30 still hitting their prime where as Luongo is not. Keep in mind these players didn't have NTC at the time of the trades and could of went anywhere and are fwds and not goalies(limited suitors). So Vancouver has limited options. Similar to Rick Nash, but Nash is a fwd which expands the possible trade partners but has a NTC which limits CBJ choices, not to mention a large contract as well.

Vancouver has little say in this matter.

Komi will be part of the deal to make it work cap wise, just as Lupul was in the Beauchemin deal. In the salary cap world its contracts that are traded not players.

Komi + 2nd + B prospect for Luongo + 9 years of cap space (minus the one for Komi's contract)


The Leafs have the Nucks at their mercy if we are one of 2 options, simple as that.
- StanleyCupDreams

It's too hard for them to accept it...... they're in denial.

What about Luongo in a deal for Rick Nash?
Both players want out. But i don't think Luongo will wave his NTC to go to Columbus...
Maybe a 3 way trade?

I could see Schenn straight up but not a salary dump Komi.
- VANTEL

The other team has to accept the terms of the deal still right? Or do we just throw out proposals that we would like to see? cause if that's the case....

I wouldn't be surprised if he found someone else willing to over pay, middle of the pack team lu changes his mind about, problem is leafs have very little and are not really willing to give it all up for 1 player during a rebuild, We don't really make very good trade partners do we?

Unless that is if brass feels we should give up everything for him, then there is not really anything we can do as fans except piss and moan. Someones getting screwed, I hope to heck it is not us for once....lol
- MindFr3eak

It would have to be a team in the East...the Canucks would be foolish to trade within conference.

Doubtful.
- burn

Well Nonis believes Lu is the best goalie in the NHL... and Yzerman picked Lu to be a potential starter for the Olympics.

Burke needs to make a move to get TO into the playoffs... and this deal could be the one to do it.

Lu is seen around the league by GM's as an elite goaltender who is in the discussion for vezina pretty much every year he has been in the league. Those types of goalies do not grow on trees.

I don't think TO has had a goalie of Lu's calibre in what... 40 years? If ever... and they want to get him for Komi and a 2nd? Cool...

The other team has to accept the terms of the deal still right? Or do we just throw out proposals that we would like to see? cause if that's the case....
- burn

You mean like Komi for Lu

Option 3 : Canucks keep luongo who only stated that if he was going to be traded he would pick these 5 teams he never said he wanted to go for sure. Besides I'd rather keep luongo as a back up then help the leafs
- pker2theend

And then you lose schneider.!! Good plan.

It's too hard for them to accept it...... they're in denial.
- burn

My oh my is it gonna be funny when Lu ends up somewhere else.

What about Luongo in a deal for Rick Nash?
Both players want out. But i don't think Luongo will wave his NTC to go to Columbus...
Maybe a 3 way trade?
- sslider

That's one problem... the other is that CLB gets ripped off.

Phaneuf for Luongo.

Sign Suter and Schultz.

Well Nonis believes Lu is the best goalie in the NHL... and Yzerman picked Lu to be a potential starter for the Olympics.

Burke needs to make a move to get TO into the playoffs... and this deal could be the one to do it.

Lu is seen around the league by GM's as an elite goaltender who is in the discussion for vezina pretty much every year he has been in the league. Those types of goalies do not grow on trees.

I don't think TO has had a goalie of Lu's calibre in what... 40 years? If ever... and they want to get him for Komi and a 2nd? Cool...
- kneughter

The other team has to accept the terms of the deal still right? Or do we just throw out proposals that we would like to see? cause if that's the case....
- burn

Right, so Gillis will just bend over for Burkie then.