Unless you are a fellow GM in the league... you are just making a broad assumption... its also safe to assume there is a lot of interest for Lu.. as its been stated by other people in the media... doesn't make it any more true than your statement.
- kneughter

One thing is for certain:

Since there aren't many suitors Luongo is willing to move to

There aren't many teams interested in the contract length

VAN is not dealing from a position of strength. If they aren't willing to accept less for LU then they'd have to keep him.

It's something I wouldn't be terribly surprised at. At the very least Gillis might wait until after the smoke of the draft and UFA have gone by before seeing who's still interested

Look at what is happeneing with Thomas...

If you have earned 61 million dollars... would you stick around for 3 years to earn 3 more? What if family was extremely important to you? and you were extremely competetive.. and were told you were going to become a back up? or they were sending you to the AHL? Would you stick around then?

Use your head man...
- kneughter

That's what Burke learned at Harvard law school. Ignore that the contract calls for 10 years of payments and assume/hope he doesn't want $1M/year for the last 3 years. In fact, NHL will probably go without all those contracts n'poop from here on.

TO offer would include a D man that makes... 4.5 mill ..for poopty point production...Kommy no way! we dont that in vancity rather take draft picks...for LUONGO...no

Exactly.....Canuck fans please please please understand how tied Gillis' hands are in this situation. You WILL NOT get fair value for Luongo if he gets dealt. PLAIN and SIMPLE.
- Phenom

NTC... not NMC... and I think Tampa is the team he ends up in anyways.

There may not be fair value... I'd be good with Malone and Detroits 1st... or a 2nd round. I think thats fair for both sides. Salary coming back to Van.. but its salary in a player that Van can actually use. Not Komi....

keep dreamin sunshine, I know you'd like that to be true. But Gillis has said he's taken calls on him already, so teams are interested.
- LeftCoaster

oh, right, so he isn't using the media to try to gain some leverage in this difficult situation he is in

Exactly.....Canuck fans please please please understand how tied Gillis' hands are in this situation. You WILL NOT get fair value for Luongo if he gets dealt. PLAIN and SIMPLE.
- Phenom

I don't think that's being disputed? He won't because of that contract, that said, he's not trading him just for the sake of trading him and taking nothing in return. He doesn't need to do that.

Why do people here think van is so desperate.... if they sign CS to a deal of 2 years at 3.5 million and tell schneider that Lu will be dealt when the right deal comes along.. whether its at the draft... the start of the season or the TD.

Its not "ideal" but its definitely doable.. look at Nashville... they will pretty much be spending the same amount on their goalie tandem no matter who is backing up.

They can do games... 50 for CS... 30 for Lu... maybe split em to start the year... I'm sure they will figure it out... especially if the cap goes up to 68-70 million... it wont be a problem at all.

AV is a big mouth and has said things out of context many times..... if they sat down with Lu and told him they want CS to be the guy going forward then yes... he probably would rather play else where. But he will be more than happy to come back this year and will no doubt be a professional about it. This deal doesnt HAVE to be made in the next couple months... they got time.. and I'm sure have a few teams interested. Apparently Nonis was asked who the best goalie in the NHL was... and he said Luongo... which makes sense considering he brought him here.
- kneughter

Probablys LU's best option .Come back be quiet and play like a madman .Trade him to a team sitting around 6-8 th in the playoffs at TDL then they get a very good goalie with 5 years 5.3 per.

That's what Burke learned at Harvard law school. Ignore that the contract calls for 10 years of payments and assume/hope he doesn't want $1M/year for the last 3 years. In fact, NHL will probably go without all those contracts n'poop from here on.
- Canada Cup

They have already gone without them... since before the Kovalchuk signing. When it was first turned down by the league.

Why do you have to hope he doesn't want to play the last 3 years? if he does... send him down to the minors... problem solved.

Did gillis change his number to 1-800-GOT-JUNK?

One thing is for certain:

Since there aren't many suitors Luongo is willing to move to

There aren't many teams interested in the contract length

VAN is not dealing from a position of strength. If they aren't willing to accept less for LU then they'd have to keep him.

It's something I wouldn't be terribly surprised at. At the very least Gillis might wait until after the smoke of the draft and UFA have gone by before seeing who's still interested
- AngryWhiteMale

could be......maybe Gillis will trade Cory?? ..LUONGO will gain something of value no matter who stays or goes

TO offer would include a D man that makes... 4.5 mill ..for poopty point production...Kommy no way! we dont that in vancity rather take draft picks...for LUONGO...no
- Canuckfan2006

You guys wont get fair value for him and will have to take salary back with whoever you trade with.

Did gillis change his number to 1-800-GOT-JUNK?
- PatsLeafs

a.7

BURKE keeps hauling them into his team ...hes got the Number on speed dial

If we're ruling out lottery/terrible teams, that means Columbus-Toronto-NYI-Montreal-Edmonton are all out of it then?
- LeftCoaster

Your name should be LeftFielder....because you're cleary hanging out there. The teams that have been reported to be on his list are mainly CHI, TB, FLA and TOR. or at least that's what they were last anyone heard. We're not just pulling this stuff out of thin air.

oh, right, so he isn't using the media to try to gain some leverage in this difficult situation he is in


- Nastradamus

He's not in a difficult situation.

One thing is for certain:

Since there aren't many suitors Luongo is willing to move to

There aren't many teams interested in the contract length

VAN is not dealing from a position of strength. If they aren't willing to accept less for LU then they'd have to keep him.

It's something I wouldn't be terribly surprised at. At the very least Gillis might wait until after the smoke of the draft and UFA have gone by before seeing who's still interested
- AngryWhiteMale

I agree 100 percent... not many Canucks fans are saying Lu will get Gardiner, Schenn and the 5th overall (although I know it has been said).. most level headed fans know the value won't be as good as it SHOULD be. But to say Komi and a 2nd for Lu is beyond ridiculous.

The deal will be a fair deal for both sides... whatever it ends up being. I wouldn't be shocked if it was something like Lu and our 1st for Schenn and Armstrong. That seems reasonable for both sides.

Did gillis change his number to 1-800-GOT-JUNK?
- PatsLeafs

Hahahahahahhaha

You honestly think players sign those ludicrously long, backloaded deals in good faith? Why the (frank) do you think the NHL outlawed them for the Kovalchuk types?
- S Kaspar Rollins

The players do it so instead of making their 5.3 mill on the cap hit, They can make 10 mill the 1st year, 8 mill the 2nd year, and 6.67 mill for 6 years. The final 6 million over 4 years isn't as important as the extra 15 million in the first years.

He's not in a difficult situation.
- LeftCoaster

I guess you're allowed to have an opinion.

I think the Luongo trade will involve a team not discussed as of yet. I could see a few moving parts in all this. I don't count out Tampa, as I think Yzerman is posturing. And the notion that the Leafs will dump a bad contract on Canucks and get Luongo (basically a win-win for Tor) was something first pushed by Darren Dreger, Nonis' cousin. Dreger throws up trial balloons for the Leafs all the time, least informative "insider" on tsn.

Gillis' first concern is getting Schneider signed long term, then he can be patient with the Luongo situation...the Gillis' team is pretty good on keeping things quiet (no one rumored the Booth or Hodgson trades ahead of time) so I don't put stock in any of the rumors to this point. It'll be something no one expected, I'll bet.

Your name should be LeftFielder....because you're cleary hanging out there. The teams that have been reported to be on his list are mainly CHI, TB, FLA and TOR. or at least that's what they were last anyone heard. We're not just pulling this stuff out of thin air.
- Phenom

Left fielder, I like that Yes I know, lots of things in the world are reported. Some of them aren't real. Some of them don't even exist. I'll believe it when I hear it or see it, until then you and I are speculating and that's it.

UFO's land on a regular basis in the Nevada desert, go check it out! They really do, it's all over the news.

He has a NTC not a NMC, you don't know where he'll accept to go and neither do I.
- LeftCoaster

OK but I would bet you he won't waive to go to Columbus as they have admitted they are at the beginning of a rebuild.

At least with the Leafs, they are towards the end of one.

NTC... not NMC... and I think Tampa is the team he ends up in anyways.

There may not be fair value... I'd be good with Malone and Detroits 1st... or a 2nd round. I think thats fair for both sides. Salary coming back to Van.. but its salary in a player that Van can actually use. Not Komi....
- kneughter

No $hit you'd be good with that! Gillis gets that offer, take it, run and bring extra underwear to clean the jizz.

But YOU WILL NOT GET THAT KIND OF OFFER. Get. It. Through. Your. Head.

OK but I would bet you he won't waive to go to Columbus as they have admitted they are at the beginning of a rebuild.

At least with the Leafs, they are towards the end of one.
- cracka

This is what people are failing to realize... the only thing that puts Gillis in a bit more a difficult position is the fact that Lu has to agree to go to that particular team... its not his contract thats the problem.

I believe thats the only real issue that limits the value of this trade... but even so... I imagine the return will be much better than many TO fans are stating.. and much worse than some Van fans are saying.

I don't think that's being disputed? He won't because of that contract, that said, he's not trading him just for the sake of trading him and taking nothing in return. He doesn't need to do that.
- LeftCoaster

Still better than the two alternatives:

1. Trade Schneider for a good return, keep Lu and ride out his contract.
(I don't think Gillis wants this)

2. Keep both and invest $10 million into your goaltending.
(Not exactly ideal)

could be......maybe Gillis will trade Cory?? ..LUONGO will gain something of value no matter who stays or goes
- Canuckfan2006

But you have to wonder what's going on in Lu's head. I mean, he has had to deal with the brunt of the fans who blame him for the performance of a whole team when he actually played pretty good.

Remeber, Daniel was out, Kesler was injured(needs surgery) and Quick was playing on his head.

I think Lu's at the point where he sees the future in VAN and it doesn't include him, the city's not emotionally invested in him anymore, and perhaps he needs a change in order to inspire him.

I don't think he'd accept a trade to TOR unless he felt he could handle it. Maybe he just wants a new challenge. And Surely he must have faith that Nonis and BB are putting together something decent in front of him