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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:59 AM ET
I'd like to see a healthy Erik Johnson play for the Flyers. That's a pretty good idea. I said this before and I'll keep saying this, I don't see how the Flyers can walk away from Jagr without a back up plan. We want to upgrade the D, correct? That might mean taking from the offense as it is, to upgrade the D. If the Flyers are serious about going after Weber right now (if possible), I think it's a lock they have to give up a player like JvR, Voracek, Read etc. This is with Jagr already possibly not being wanted here. This hole just gets bigger up front to fill a hole on the back end. I think it's very possibly Jagr comes back because the market this summer is weak when it comes to snipers.
- roenick97


Wouldn't mind seeing Jagr back, but they have kids who can pick up the slack offensively. I'm not worried about the missed production on the ice, it's the off-the-ice work ethic and commitment to training that will be missed.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 4 @ 9:09 AM ET
anyone have that old photo from cheers with old man holding "we win" sign?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 9:34 AM ET
anyone have that old photo from cheers with old man holding "we win" sign?
- mydoglicks

aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 4 @ 9:34 AM ET
anyone have that old photo from cheers with old man holding "we win" sign?
- mydoglicks

http://bit.ly/JGuSe9


roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 4 @ 9:35 AM ET
Wouldn't mind seeing Jagr back, but they have kids who can pick up the slack offensively. I'm not worried about the missed production on the ice, it's the off-the-ice work ethic and commitment to training that will be missed.
- bradleyc4

Who though? What if all of our dreams came true and we ended up getting Weber? I guarantee that it will take at least one NHL forward on our roster to get him like JvR or Voracek, maybe even both. Then we walk away from Jagr. That's possibly 3 forwards gone in a weak UFA market for scorers this summer.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 9:39 AM ET
Who though? What if all of our dreams came true and we ended up getting Weber? I guarantee that it will take at least one NHL forward on our roster to get him like JvR or Voracek, maybe even both. Then we walk away from Jagr. That's possibly 3 forwards gone in a weak UFA market for scorers this summer.
- roenick97


If they trade JvR or Voracek, then I'd imagine they'd make sure they brought back Jagr.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 4 @ 9:40 AM ET
Who though? What if all of our dreams came true and we ended up getting Weber? I guarantee that it will take at least one NHL forward on our roster to get him like JvR or Voracek, maybe even both. Then we walk away from Jagr. That's possibly 3 forwards gone in a weak UFA market for scorers this summer.
- roenick97


Not holding my breath on that one.

Guys like Schenn, JVR, Couturier and Voracek could all easily put up better numbers next season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 9:40 AM ET
disagreed

talk to people around the Jets -- beat writers, bloggers, whomever. They'll all tell you that Enstrom is the best, most-rounded defenseman on that team.

which also means, IMO, that he's probably close to untouchable.

- bradleyc4



I don't think anyone would dispute that he's the best most rounded defenseman on the Jets. That doesn't make him the best fit for the Flyers needs. In my opinion I don't want to get involved in what it would take to trade for him, and then to re-sign him. I want a player that has more size and is more of a shut down defender if were going to invest the assets necessary in that move. If were talking about replacing Carle with Enstrom, the I'm more then fine with that. But not to fill that number 1 hole that exists with the loss of Pronger and Timonen in the future.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 4 @ 9:51 AM ET

- Jsaquella


thanks bud
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 4 @ 9:52 AM ET
http://bit.ly/JGuSe9



- aightwebang17



wu awb
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 4 @ 9:54 AM ET
I don't think anyone would dispute that he's the best most rounded defenseman on the Jets. That doesn't make him the best fit for the Flyers needs. In my opinion I don't want to get involved in what it would take to trade for him, and then to re-sign him. I want a player that has more size and is more of a shut down defender if were going to invest the assets necessary in that move. If were talking about replacing Carle with Enstrom, the I'm more then fine with that. But not to fill that number 1 hole that exists with the loss of Pronger and Timonen in the future.
- MJL


Enstrom would be difficult to pry and he's a left-handed shot. I'd be looking elsewhere anyway.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 4 @ 9:57 AM ET
anyone else get pissed when you go to csn philly and those stupid pop up videos come on? then those frustrating little story tabs pop up while you reading in your view?
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 4 @ 9:59 AM ET
wu awb
- mydoglicks

nm wbu mdl
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 4 @ 9:59 AM ET
anyone else get pissed when you go to csn philly and those stupid pop up videos come on? then those frustrating little story tabs pop up while you reading in your view?
- mydoglicks

yes

that website has become an atrocity
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 4 @ 10:00 AM ET
nm wbu mdl
- aightwebang17


carters goal
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 4 @ 10:01 AM ET
yes

that website has become an atrocity

- Crimsoninja


i followed a link on the one video and had it removed (stupid guy on airplane) but a differnt comes on now.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 4 @ 10:02 AM ET
yes

that website has become an atrocity

- Crimsoninja

https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/

ur welcome
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 4 @ 10:02 AM ET
carters goal
- mydoglicks

seems like this is his density.

I mean destiny.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 4 @ 10:04 AM ET
https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/

ur welcome

- aightwebang17

Username BulliesPhan87 supports this message.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 10:05 AM ET
seems like this is his density.

I mean destiny.

- aightwebang17


That's Calvin Klein. OMG, he's a dream
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 4 @ 10:07 AM ET
I don't think anyone would dispute that he's the best most rounded defenseman on the Jets. That doesn't make him the best fit for the Flyers needs. In my opinion I don't want to get involved in what it would take to trade for him, and then to re-sign him. I want a player that has more size and is more of a shut down defender if were going to invest the assets necessary in that move. If were talking about replacing Carle with Enstrom, the I'm more then fine with that. But not to fill that number 1 hole that exists with the loss of Pronger and Timonen in the future.
- MJL



Enstrom makes the most sense for the Flyers if they just wait for him to hit UFA and he'll slip right into Timonen's spot. The Jets have Kane, Pavelec, Bogosian, Wheeler, Little and Burmistrov all going RFA in the next 2 summers on a strict budget... chances are good that keeping that young core intact would mean they'd have to pass on some of their major impending UFA's, like Enstrom. No need to deal assets for somebody who will likely be had for free next summer.

If we're talking about replacing Pronger, there are very few candidates who could even come close to doing that. Enstrom is definitely not one of them.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 4 @ 10:10 AM ET
That's Calvin Klein. OMG, he's a dream
- Jsaquella

why don't you make like a tree, and get outta here
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 10:11 AM ET
Enstrom makes the most sense for the Flyers if they just wait for him to hit UFA and he'll slip right into Timonen's spot. The Jets have Kane, Pavelec, Bogosian, Wheeler, Little and Burmistrov all going RFA in the next 2 summers on a strict budget... chances are good that keeping that young core intact would mean they'd have to pass on some of their major impending UFA's, like Enstrom. No need to deal assets for somebody who will likely be had for free next summer.

If we're talking about replacing Pronger, there are very few candidates who could even come close to doing that. Enstrom is definitely not one of them.

- Tomahawk


Winner, Winner.



I don;t think they can replace Pronger.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 10:12 AM ET
why don't you make like a tree, and get outta here
- aightwebang17


He's right. He's gonna be mayor!

*yes, I am partly hoping that MOAT pops in because of this
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 4 @ 10:21 AM ET
I don;t think they can replace Pronger.
- Jsaquella


IMO, the best bet would be Erik Johnson... JvR + would probably get it done. The kid's been a bit inconsistent offensively on some offensively mediocre clubs, but he's big, mobile, puck-savvy, and physical enough, to maybe get to Pronger territory in the near future. Not to mention, he's RH.

Avs probably would prefer to hang on to him, but their pipeline is strong on the backend and weak on the wings.
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