A misdirection thingy?
- Blackstrom2

Yeah...I made that up...like it?

After we trade Roy to PHX for their 27th and a prospect...

12, 21, 27, and Pysyk for #1

Trade Vanek for Statsny

Sign Parise

1st Line...Nail--Statsny--Parise

I'm still drunk...

(frank)ing tamballini is just acting like he's got a hard decision on who to pick first overall when really its about as easy as a decision you can make. And what's the point of trading yak (who will make more of an impact right now than Murray anyways) when we can just wait a year or 2 to let our d prospects develop.

Can't say I agree. Yakupov should turn out to be the better player over time but Murray didn't look out of place at all in the WC's.

Yakupov is not going to jump to the NHL right away and become an elite goal scorer. It is going to take some time for him to adjust to a much faster and harder hitting game then what he is used to.

If they do take him I just hope he learns to keep his head up or poor RNH will get half a season out of both his wingers. Hall is already playing with fire with the way he plays his game. If he keeps it up his career will be shortended pretty quick

After we trade Roy to PHX for their 27th and a prospect...

12, 21, 27, and Pysyk for #1

Trade Vanek for Statsny

Sign Parise

1st Line...Nail--Statsny--Parise

I'm still drunk...
- dacks

a fairly sexy offer....I would then try and flip each of the 20 picks + to move them higher up and get a top 10, #12 and another in the top 15.

Then get to draft Reinhart, Matta and maybe Tom Wilson. 3 solid D prospects and a solid winger w/ size prospect.

Richard Cloutier: Yakkity Yak, Don't Trade That
- Maxbone

We can work out a trade for the fifth so that you can grab one of those dmen if you want to send us Ebs back in return.... I know that he's not the centre that we need but holy Jesus, the thought of Ebs in a Leafs sweater is pretty damn awesome



and entirely unrealistic...

Can't say I agree. Yakupov should turn out to be the better player over time but Murray didn't look out of place at all in the WC's.

Yakupov is not going to jump to the NHL right away and become an elite goal scorer. It is going to take some time for him to adjust to a much faster and harder hitting game then what he is used to.

If they do take him I just hope he learns to keep his head up or poor RNH will get half a season out of both his wingers. Hall is already playing with fire with the way he plays his game. If he keeps it up his career will be shortended pretty quick
- Trejetta

His size is what...not scares me, but drops him in value to me....he is amazingly skilled but of a size where the much larger Dmen will be able to steamroll him. Nuge made it out alright, but Yak seems to play with a more confrontational approach to his game so i see him taking more punishment. I compare him, in a way, to Dumba. Dumba plays for the big hit, and can do it in Jr, but get him in the NHL where many forwards are bigger than him and his game will suffer. I am not calling Yak a fail, but like Dumba he will need to adjust his game.

We can work out a trade for the fifth so that you can grab one of those dmen if you want to send us Ebs back in return.... I know that he's not the centre that we need but holy Jesus, the thought of Ebs in a Leafs sweater is pretty damn awesome



and entirely unrealistic...
- lumlums

Exactly...

Can't say I agree. Yakupov should turn out to be the better player over time but Murray didn't look out of place at all in the WC's.

Yakupov is not going to jump to the NHL right away and become an elite goal scorer. It is going to take some time for him to adjust to a much faster and harder hitting game then what he is used to.

If they do take him I just hope he learns to keep his head up or poor RNH will get half a season out of both his wingers. Hall is already playing with fire with the way he plays his game. If he keeps it up his career will be shortended pretty quick
- Trejetta

I get what you're saying but Murray was averaging about 3 minutes of ice-time in the WC, they'd let him get about 10 against the joke teams but when the chips were down he was on the bench so I;m not sure he looked "in place."

Yakupov is a midget OV in play style



Which very well could be his undoing

I get what you're saying but Murray was averaging about 3 minutes of ice-time in the WC, they'd let him get about 10 against the joke teams but when the chips were down he was on the bench so I;m not sure he looked "in place."(
- AdamFrench

He was a 3rd pairing Dman...when the "chips are down" you don't play your 3rd pairing guys.

And the "Joke Teams" were still men that have played at a higher level than Murray was accustomed to, so 10 minutes against them and not playing so terribly that he was a laughing stock is good.

His size is what...not scares me, but drops him in value to me....he is amazingly skilled but of a size where the much larger Dmen will be able to steamroll him. Nuge made it out alright, but Yak seems to play with a more confrontational approach to his game so i see him taking more punishment. I compare him, in a way, to Dumba. Dumba plays for the big hit, and can do it in Jr, but get him in the NHL where many forwards are bigger than him and his game will suffer. I am not calling Yak a fail, but like Dumba he will need to adjust his game.
- OilHorse

I'm not worrying about his size. Look at parise he's what 5'10 190lbs. That's pretty tiny but I would love him on our team

Tambs and Lowe are dumb but not that dumb...
- whipper334

I have been drinking for 3 hours now

I'm not worrying about his size. Look at parise he's what 5'10 190lbs. That's pretty tiny but I would love him on our team
- howamidointhis

Forgive me if I am wrong on his (Parise) playstyle...but he is not someone that goes headfirst into a rush. Yak does seem to be like that. I am hoping that he is using his brain on when it is best to bullrush the Dman and when to deke him out.

Watching his highlights blow me away! No one on the Oilers has a one-timer like that. I can't get the picture out of my head seeing Nuge or Ebs saucing passes for that one-timer.

a fairly sexy offer....I would then try and flip each of the 20 picks + to move them higher up and get a top 10, #12 and another in the top 15.

Then get to draft Reinhart, Matta and maybe Tom Wilson. 3 solid D prospects and a solid winger w/ size prospect.
- OilHorse

I would deal with you anyday,you lower expectations within heartbeats.

I hope they trade the pick so Richard can cry himself to sleep.

Richard you know nothing about this kid yet you talk like you were scouting him all season.

I would deal with you anyday,you lower expectations within heartbeats.
- DrinkOil

Pysyk: His skating ability, leadership qualities, and overall hockey sense make him a likely future first or second pairing defenseman at the NHL level.

Tom Wilson: A total prospect but with definite skill and size, has the potential to be a Middle 6 Power Forward.

Reinhart: Kid is firing on all cylinders. total Pronger/chara/weber potential.

Maata: Solid 2way Dman...like Murray...not flashy gets the job done...good smarts and rarely gets caught out of position.

I do not see how trading for all that would be "lowering expectations" when those 3 dmen all have top 4 dman potential. Add wilson to the pile with his potential to be a big strong pf inthe middle 6 and I think I walk away with a smile.

Pysyk: His skating ability, leadership qualities, and overall hockey sense make him a likely future first or second pairing defenseman at the NHL level.

Tom Wilson: A total prospect but with definite skill and size, has the potential to be a Middle 6 Power Forward.

Reinhart: Kid is firing on all cylinders. total Pronger/chara/weber potential.

Maata: Solid 2way Dman...like Murray...not flashy gets the job done...good smarts and rarely gets caught out of position.

I do not see how trading for all that would be "lowering expectations" when those 3 dmen all have top 4 dman potential. Add wilson to the pile with his potential to be a big strong pf inthe middle 6 and I think I walk away with a smile.
- OilHorse

People say this about every player every year. Do you have any I dea how many mid first round picks the oil have made in the last 20 years? yeah how many turned out? Only a few questionable retards can suggest we don't have the biggest deepest pool of young talent in the entire NHL. And you want to toss more gupies into the pool.
Gags- less than expected
PRV - way less than expected
Hall - meeting/ exceeding expectations
Hop - exceeding or dreaming expectations
Yak- generational talent, winner /competitor Fail for nail for like 1.5 yrs, we sneak the lotto and you suggest we trade him + for a high prospect and 3 wild cards?

that is giving up on hockey knowledge, it's time we dispearse out talent pools and upgrade, but yeah i'd deal with you anyday.

People say this about every player every year. Do you have any I dea how many mid first round picks the oil have made in the last 20 years? yeah how many turned out? Only a few questionable retards can suggest we don't have the biggest deepest pool of young talent in the entire NHL. And you want to toss more gupies into the pool.
Gags- less than expected
PRV - way less than expected
Hall - meeting/ exceeding expectations
Hop - exceeding or dreaming expectations
Yak- generational talent, winner /competitor Fail for nail for like 1.5 yrs, we sneak the lotto and you suggest we trade him + for a high prospect and 3 wild cards?

that is giving up on hockey knowledge, it's time we dispearse out talent pools and upgrade, but yeah i'd deal with you anyday.
- DrinkOil

I'll play that game... mid first round picks the oil have made in the last 20 years?

You cannot use 20 years as scouting and development have progress immensely in the past decade. Since the lockout is too few so let me use since the new millennium.

picks 11 to 20 since 2000:

2000- #17: Mikhnnov (2 games for the Oil, plays KHL now); 2001- #13 Hemsky; 2002- #15: Niinimaki (played almost exclusively for Finnish teams); 2004- #14: Dubnyk; 2007- #15 : Plante (selected higher than expected to go, so should not have been selected there); 2011- #19: Klefbom (top D prospect)

So in recent memory in the mid-1st the Oil picked a top6 forward (arguably and elite player), a potential #1 goalie for the team who is still developing and a Top 4 potential Dman.

they also picked poorly with Plante as he should have been a much lower pick and 2 guys that have not played in NA much, as likely that they decided that NA was not where they wanted to live and moved to be closer to home.

Remember that Stu McGregor took over as Head Scout in 07, Plante was not on his watch, but Klefbom is.


Talent is not something you can ever have enough of and of those 4 guys only Wilson imo is the least likely to reach potential. And he is the lowest of the picks. Not al these guys will play in Edm...it is possible that as they develop they are traded for other pieces, but the more talent you amass the better your chances of hitting a homerun.

I htink you miss much in your desire to try and put me down...it is not #1 + for those guys...it is those guys for #1...Many guys with high talent for a single guy with higher talent.

What is it the oilers need? Size up front and Size on D and Top Pair Dman. With 1 swing there are 3 potential top 4 Dmen (with top pair ceilings on some).That defensive depth just got even better and moving some to fill any hole on the team is even easier, Top Dman, Top 6 Center, Bottom 6 players. My move allows for maximum coverage of team needs, that is all i am looking at.

So in recent memory in the mid-1st the Oil picked a top6 forward (arguably and elite player), a potential #1 goalie for the team who is still developing and a Top 4 potential Dman.

they also picked poorly with Plante as he should have been a much lower pick and 2 guys that have not played in NA much, as likely that they decided that NA was not where they wanted to live and moved to be closer to home.
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- OilHorse

To be fair, the entire 2007 class was a joke. There was no real order outside of maybe the top 6 or 7 guys, and even then you have a guy like Thomas Hickey who somehow gets taken at #4.

Plante actually made huge strides this year. He's going to make Sutton expendable this year if he keeps up the same amount of progression.

Richard Cloutier: Yakkity Yak, Don't Trade That
- Maxbone

Thanks alot Cloutier. Cant get this stupid song out of my head and now im watching The Great Outdoors. You've ruined my day.

To be fair, the entire 2007 class was a joke. There was no real order outside of maybe the top 6 or 7 guys, and even then you have a guy like Thomas Hickey who somehow gets taken at #4.

Plante actually made huge strides this year. He's going to make Sutton expendable this year if he keeps up the same amount of progression.
- mochoson

Still...not much to speak of when he is making our 6-7 Dman expendable.

Yakupov...

- Clear cut #1
- Same height as Crosby
- Built like a tank
- Skates like the wind
- Quickest release I have ever seen.
- Great attitude
- Probability of being a stud in the NHL 99.87%

I hope they trade the pick so Richard can cry himself to sleep.

Richard you know nothing about this kid yet you talk like you were scouting him all season.
- duckyjets

That's how Richard reports everything. Wait for next weeks blog on how we should move down in the draft and nab Faksa.

Not many teams can offer up the kind of package that would get Edmonton's attention in a possible deal for Yakupov. In the case of Montreal, Cary Price would have to be part of the offer or they might try the #3 plus Subban. As stated earlier Buffalo would need to include Myers. Ottawa would have to give up Karllson. Boston would have to give up Hamilton plus another top skater. The Leafs simply don't have a key piece in terms a player. They would need to give up the #5 as well as Gardiner and another skater. You can go through each Division and the problem is the same. If you do this kind of deal fans on both sides will likely hate it.

Big deals are very hard to do. I don't see many possibilities that work unless a very high end player is included.
- spatso

your nuts your tellin me price is worth as much as gardiner and nuber 5. too much burkie juice boy

So there will be 29 picks taken in the first round, because the Devils still have to forfeit a 1st round pick due to that salary cap violation (and they'll most likely forfeit this year).