Kane for either Okposo or Grabner and the #4 overall pick. Draft Ryan Murray.

Center depth wins championships. Not to discredit Lucic what so ever, but if Boston is asking one or the other, I'm taking Seguin.

Toews/Seguin would be one of the best 1-2 punchs at center in the NHL.
- mochoson

This.

Kane for either Okposo or Grabner and the #4 overall pick. Draft Ryan Murray.
- Ogilthorpe2

You likely land Okposo and the 4th if you throw in your 1st.

Your giving up the better established forward, Islanders are giving up the better pick, and vic versa. Not sure Snow would do it though. They have vested a lot of time in Okposo and he finally put everything together this season. They could be just as happy with keeping him and taking Murray themselves. Factor in the whole reason Chicago wants to trade Kane to begin with, and it's a much harder sell then you think, but not entirely impossible.

This.
- Lido_Shuffle

Look at LA.

Carter
Richards
Kopitar
Stoll

4 guys who can slot in on your top 2 lines. It's one of the reasons their so dominant.

Kane for either Okposo or Grabner and the #4 overall pick. Draft Ryan Murray.
- Ogilthorpe2

This too!

Kane and Crawford for Lehtonen and #13 pick. Then package the Stars 1st pick with the Hawks 1st plus a mid-level prospect for Nash.

Kane/Crawford becomes Lehtonen/Nash.

If it meens the hawks land Lucic. I will buy Kanes drinks as long as someone shows me how to post videos to facebook.


All jokes aside dude needs help

Kane and Crawford for Lehtonen and #13 pick. Then package the Stars 1st pick with the Hawks 1st plus a mid-level prospect for Nash.

Kane/Crawford becomes Lehtonen/Nash.
- Ogilthorpe2

2 mid-round 1sts and mid-level prospect for Nash? Columbus easily finds a better deal elsewhere.

The Lehtonen deal is a steal for the Stars, but do they bite? They don't really have problems scoring goals, and again, as good as Kane is, the reason your trading him in the first place makes him a tough sell. The core in texas of Eriksson, Benn, Ribiero, Morrow, and Ryder isn't really anything to sneeze at. Kane makes that one of the most balanced and dangerous offenses in the league, but they definitely need help at D.

In a draft like this where dmen are a plenty, I think Dallas has no problem keeping Lehtonen, who's as good a starter as you can ask for in todays NHL, and the 13th pick, who is likely a guy that is only 1-3 years away from contributing.

Im a Star's fan, and I'd be absolutely ecstatic if they get Olli Maata

If it meens the hawks land Lucic. I will buy Kanes drinks as long as someone shows me how to post videos to facebook.


All jokes aside dude needs help
- blkhwkfn

You click on photo - select upload photo/video - choose file - wait for upload .... enjoy.

Kane and Crawford for Glencross, Kiprusoff, and #14 overall. Then #14, #18, Saad for Nash.

2 mid-round 1sts and mid-level prospect for Nash? Columbus easily finds a better deal elsewhere.

The Lehtonen deal is a steal for the Stars, but do they bite? They don't really have problems scoring goals, and again, as good as Kane is, the reason your trading him in the first place makes him a tough sell. The core in texas of Eriksson, Benn, Ribiero, Morrow, and Ryder isn't really anything to sneeze at. Kane makes that one of the most balanced and dangerous offenses in the league, but they definitely need help at D.

In a draft like this where dmen are a plenty, I think Dallas has no problem keeping Lehtonen, who's as good a starter as you can ask for in todays NHL, and the 13th pick, who is likely a guy that is only 1-3 years away from contributing.

Im a Star's fan, and I'd be absolutely ecstatic if they get Olli Maata
- mochoson

Just trying to think outside of the usual Kane for Nash scenario.

Kane and Crawford for Glencross, Kiprusoff, and #14 overall. Then #14, #18, Saad for Nash.
- Ogilthorpe2

Kane, Crawford, two mid 1sts, and Saad for Kipursoff, Glencross, and Nash? I can't decide who gets robbed which means that actually might be fair.

How about Kane and Hammer for Berglund, Polak, and Cole?

Some may see that as an over-payment by the Hawks, but I'm taking into consideration the fact that the cap hits going back and forth are pretty close, and that you fill the 2nd line center roll while still solidfying the D.

Just trying to think outside of the usual Kane for Nash scenario.
- Ogilthorpe2

I've reposted it a few times, but one deal I saw that was very interesting eas

Hammer
Frolik
Bolland

for

Nash
Dorsett

250k difference in salary going back and forth, more then fair IMO.

Stastny, (rights to O'Brien)

for

Hjalmarsson, Pirii, conditional 3rd^

^(if O'Brien resigns with Hawks)
*Sign Jackman and O'Brien*

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CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Patrick Sharp ($5.900m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Viktor Stalberg ($0.875m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.542m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Andrew Shaw ($0.565m)
Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m) / Marcus Kruger ($0.900m) / Michael Frolik ($2.333m)
Jamal Mayers ($0.650m) / Brandon Bollig ($0.576m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Brent Seabrook ($5.800m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Barret Jackman ($3.500m) / Johnny Oduya ($3.383m)
Steve Montador ($2.750m) / Nick Leddy ($1.117m)
Shane O'Brien ($1.500m) /
GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.667m)
Ray Emery ($1.150m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,420,628; BONUSES: $375,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,879,372

FIXED.

I've reposted it a few times, but one deal I saw that was very interesting eas

Hammer
Frolik
Bolland

for

Nash
Dorsett

250k difference in salary going back and forth, more then fair IMO.
- mochoson

Hawks probably have to throw in #18 overall.

Any deal centered around Kane must include :

Colombus : Rick Nash. , I like it
Anaheim : Getzlaf or Ryan , much rather have Getzlaf
Montreal : I have no idea, Id say PK Subban but the Hawks need a forward
Islanders : again, dont know what would come close to equal value from the Isle.
Boston: Luic + ,I have no doubt that Boston would want Kane, not sure there are pieces that would match

It would be so delicious to get Nash.
- mrpaulish

I'd rather have Ryan, in spite of the fact the Hawks need a C. Perry would be great too, but I'm not that dellusional.
Subban would be great, but doubt that would happen.
Tavares? Yeah, I know, wishful thinking.

I'm done with Kane, and he has nothing to do with his off the ice stuff. I just don't see him the superstar some other portray him.

I don't want Nash and his 7.8 million dollar cap hit for next 6 years. That one is a deadly contract. It leaves you little room for any moves unless the cap skyrockets this year after the CBA. I certainly don't want Subban and his (baby) attitude. What I would really like is Brouwer back. Still trying to figure out why Bruno ? Brouwer last year. Made no sense to me. There are just not enough 20G+ 200 hit+ power forwards in the league.

I dont think Suter is the answer.

I really don't like our D corps as it stands now. You basically have 1 D-man (Seabs) who knows how to clear the front of the net and lay a shoulder into a guy. It was awful to watch the way Oduya was exposed in the Phoenix series. I would have rather gone after someone else. Anyone think we have a chance at nabbing Luke Schenn?


- droche7

The Brouwer move, was arguably the worst of the Bowman era. I also wish we had Ladd back.

Oduya for 3 years is a head scratcher. Sure he can move the puck, but he also gets pushed around.

Stastny, (rights to O'Brien)

for

Hjalmarsson, Pirii, conditional 3rd^

^(if O'Brien resigns with Hawks)
*Sign Jackman and O'Brien*
(with room for "something big")

----------------------------------------------

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Patrick Sharp ($5.900m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Viktor Stalberg ($0.875m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.542m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Andrew Shaw ($0.565m)
Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m) / Marcus Kruger ($0.900m) / Michael Frolik ($2.333m)
Jamal Mayers ($0.650m) / Brandon Bollig ($0.576m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Brent Seabrook ($5.800m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Barret Jackman ($0.367m) / Johnny Oduya ($3.383m)
Steve Montador ($2.750m) / Nick Leddy ($1.117m)
Shane O'Brien ($1.500m) /
GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.667m)
Ray Emery ($1.150m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,287,295; BONUSES: $375,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $5,012,705
- hawks2010

I think SOB get's reupped because he played so well with Erik Johnson.

Why not toss in Frolik instead of the pick? Seems like an overpayment for Statsny, but he is a first line center on most teams in the league. They solidfy their D with Hammer and get a project player for the top 6 in Frolik, Pirri is the icing on the cake.

You have Jackman slated to make 367k btw

I'd rather have Ryan, in spite of the fact the Hawks need a C. Perry would be great too, but I'm not that dellusional.
Subban would be great, but doubt that would happen.
Tavares? Yeah, I know, wishful thinking.

I'm done with Kane, and he has nothing to do with his off the ice stuff. I just don't see him the superstar some other portray him.
- howiehandles

That's why you only trade Kane for a 1A/2 C, or a winger with big size and skill.

I think SOB get's reupped because he played so well with Erik Johnson.

Why not toss in Frolik instead of the pick? Seems like an overpayment for Statsny, but he is a first line center on most teams in the league. They solidfy their D with Hammer and get a project player for the top 6 in Frolik, Pirri is the icing on the cake.

You have Jackman slated to make 367k btw
- mochoson

I fixed it, check above.

Hawks probably have to throw in #18 overall.
- Ogilthorpe2

I compare the deal to what Danny Heatley got. Heatley was much more vocal about wanting out, but he was at the same age as Nash now and their deals are pretty close. Not to mention Heatley is a much more accomplished scorer then Nash, but I digress.

The Brouwer move, was arguably the worst of the Bowman era. I also wish we had Ladd back.

Oduya for 3 years is a head scratcher. Sure he can move the puck, but he also gets pushed around.
- howiehandles

Brouwer trade was apparently a Q decision. JJ stated the Oduya signing probably has to do with Lidstrom retiring. Their is going to be a bidding war for Suter with Lidstrom gone. Oduya was pushed around because he was matched up with Leddy he needs a better pairing to be effective.

Also we got Phillip Danault for Brouwer and Danault is looking like a stud right now.

I fixed it, check above.
- hawks2010

Definitely do-able, but Jackmans gonna get more then 3.5. It wouldn't effect your deal in question, but he's getting a raise. Especially if he's leaving St. Louis. He's been there his entire career and is one of their leaders. Deeply vested into the community too.

I understand your point of view. However, we need to get fair value for Kane if any deal is done. Lucic or Tavarez would fill major needs on this team. Also this puts Kane in the East which is better for us as well. This also puts him closer to home.

Lot's of pluses in getting one of Lucic or Tavarez over any deal for Nash, Getzlaf, or Ryan. If we wait till next year we can get Getzlaf as a UFA.

If we can get Staal from Pittsburgh for a package of Bolland +, and swing a deal of Kane for Lucic the CBH would be sitting pretty. No need for Getz unless you can't resign Staal.
- scorerstouch

The reality is that Kane is one dimensional, undersized, and immature. Granted he's great at passing. No way is Boston or new York giving up better more rounded core players. You are overvaluing Kane IMO and if you were SB trying to sell me Kane at those prices I'd tell you keep him..... If I needed a one dimensional winger that bad I'll sign Semin in FA. He'll cost less than Kane and probably put up the same #s. The reason Nash is being entertained is because he wants out so howson doesn't have the leverage the other teams do.

Brouwer trade was apparently a Q decision. JJ stated the Oduya signing probably has to do with Lidstrom retiring. Their is going to be a bidding war for Suter with Lidstrom gone. Oduya was pushed around because he was matched up with Leddy he needs a better pairing to be effective.

Also we got Phillip Danault for Brouwer and Danault is looking like a stud right now.
- scorerstouch

Danault is familair with and used my trainer, Vince Malts (former Canucks draft pick from the 90s).

Vince has told me he's a really, really driven kid. He think's hes an NHL player, just doesn't know if the offense will translate.

I still think it's a bad deal giving up Brouwer to get him.