mid-rounds or later, fine. why would you use a first rounder on a "you never know what can happen"?
- OrangeBlack27

I use the first round pick on a goalie if he warrants that spot and is the best player on the board at that pick. Its not so much of "you dont know what can happen" and more based on the talent (potential) of the goalie.

drafting a goaltender in the first round is about the least effective use of that asset.
- OrangeBlack27

They dont have much in the way of prospects, if he is the best on their board at that time you can't just dismiss it, however that there should be enough ahead to not worry

mid-rounds or later, fine. why would you use a first rounder on a "you never know what can happen"?
- OrangeBlack27

because you never know what can happen

They dont have much in the way of prospects, if he is the best on their board at that t I'm time you can't just dismiss it, however that there should be enough ahead to not worry
- ob18

the only way he should be the best player on their board is if they trade down to like 50

mid-rounds or later, fine. why would you use a first rounder on a "you never know what can happen"?
- OrangeBlack27

This quote can be used for all prospects.

the only way he should be the best player on their board is if they trade down to like 50
- OrangeBlack27

If thats the case then you don't select a goalie in the first round.

This quote can be used for all prospects.
- ob18

that's BS. you typically get the most value in the first round by drafting forwards. less so for dmen and almost completely worthless drafting a goalie in the first round.

the only way he should be the best player on their board is if they trade down to like 50
- OrangeBlack27

If they followed you as GM they'd have taken Hamilton & not Couturier.

that's BS. you typically get the most value in the first round by drafting forwards. less so for dmen and almost completely worthless drafting a goalie in the first round.
- OrangeBlack27

We wont agree on this topic.

If they followed you as GM they'd have taken Hamilton & not Couturier.
- ob18

how do you figure? couturier was obviously the best player on the board starting at #5 at the latest.

We wont agree on this topic.
- ob18

guess you haven't looked at the history of the draft at all.

bill,

do you think the flyers should keep ranford or let him walk?

also, was there any reason the flyers didn't talk to couturier at the combine? did they think they had no chance of drafting him??
- Don'tForgetTocchet

I'm dubious of whether Ranford can make it to the NHL but at the least, I think he can be a 30-goal AHL scorer. Couldn't hurt to give him an ELC and take a look at him as a pro. However, I can't recall the last time the Flyers didn't get a player they really wanted signed to an ELC well before the deadline. So I don't think it's happening.

Not sure exactly why the Flyers passed on the chance to interview Couturier at last year's combine. I suspect they had done quite a bit of homework on him already -- he was one of the most high-profile invitees to the Combine -- and there were other players they wanted to talk to whom they didn't have as much information about. But I don't know for sure. I'm just glad they were able to draft him, because I think we only saw the tip of the iceberg his rookie year.

how do you figure? couturier was obviously the best player on the board starting at #5 at the latest.
- OrangeBlack27

My point is you take the best available player on the period regardless of when you draft. You may reach if you put blinders on with focusing on a single position.

that's BS. you typically get the most value in the first round by drafting forwards. less so for dmen and almost completely worthless drafting a goalie in the first round.
- OrangeBlack27

Most goalies don't get selected in the first round. I would expect more forwards to be drafted as their are more of them. I do agree with selecting the best player available and I dont care what position it is at that time.

My point is you take the best available player on the period regardless of when you draft. You may reach if you put blinders on with focusing on a single position.
- ob18

i agree with that completely.

but if it's a tossup between a forward and a dman, i'm going forward every day.

i agree with that completely.

but if it's a tossup between a forward and a dman, i'm going forward every day.
- OrangeBlack27

They may if they have equal draft grades.

I'm dubious of whether Ranford can make it to the NHL but at the least, I think he can be a 30-goal AHL scorer. Couldn't hurt to give him an ELC and take a look at him as a pro. However, I can't recall the last time the Flyers didn't get a player they really wanted signed to an ELC well before the deadline. So I don't think it's happening.

Not sure exactly why the Flyers passed on the chance to interview Couturier at last year's combine. I suspect they had done quite a bit of homework on him already -- he was one of the most high-profile invitees to the Combine -- and there were other players they wanted to talk to whom they didn't have as much information about. But I don't know for sure. I'm just glad they were able to draft him, because I think we only saw the tip of the iceberg his rookie year.
- bmeltzer

couldn't it have something to do with the fact that they didn't have a pick before round 3 of 2015 until 28 hours before the draft last year?

I'm dubious of whether Ranford can make it to the NHL but at the least, I think he can be a 30-goal AHL scorer. Couldn't hurt to give him an ELC and take a look at him as a pro. However, I can't recall the last time the Flyers didn't get a player they really wanted signed to an ELC well before the deadline. So I don't think it's happening.

Not sure exactly why the Flyers passed on the chance to interview Couturier at last year's combine. I suspect they had done quite a bit of homework on him already -- he was one of the most high-profile invitees to the Combine -- and there were other players they wanted to talk to whom they didn't have as much information about. But I don't know for sure. I'm just glad they were able to draft him, because I think we only saw the tip of the iceberg his rookie year.
- bmeltzer

thanks bill. i'd rather they sign ranford on the off chance that he could progress.

and couturier, just wow. can't wait to see the rest of the iceberg.

thanks bill. i'd rather they sign ranford on the off chance that he could progress.

and couturier, just wow. can't wait to see the rest of the iceberg.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

code?

I'm dubious of whether Ranford can make it to the NHL but at the least, I think he can be a 30-goal AHL scorer. Couldn't hurt to give him an ELC and take a look at him as a pro. However, I can't recall the last time the Flyers didn't get a player they really wanted signed to an ELC well before the deadline. So I don't think it's happening.
- bmeltzer

Rob Schremp

To be fair, he's been very good thus far, just not world-class as expected. However, put Johnson on a team with some depth and he could really hit his stride. He's got all the size, right-shot, game, demeanor and youth that you'd want -- would cost a hell of a lot less to re-sign him then to chase Suter or Weber, that's for sure.
- Tomahawk

i would do jvr for e johnson straight up

code?
- OrangeBlack27

I use the first round pick on a goalie if he warrants that spot and is the best player on the board at that pick. Its not so much of "you dont know what can happen" and more based on the talent (potential) of the goalie.
- stveshdy

Goalies, even more so than d-men, are all projects at draft-eligible age. You can draft the biggest, most athletic kid who put up gaudy number in Juniors and during IIHF events, but very rarely does any of that translate into NHL success. For every Cam Ward or Carey Price, there's dozens of Al Montoyas, Pascal Leclaires, Maxime Ouellets, Dan Blackburns, etc. Like QB, it's a cerebral position, more than a physical one.

code?
- OrangeBlack27

crim started it.

- bradleyc4

three? really?