Not that any of them are bad players, but Pittsburgh cant afford to take chances on unknown commodities if they trade Staal (which until the new CBA is ratified nobody has a clue how it will play out). Pittsburgh regardless of their round 1 follies this year are still a threat to win it all. They cant lose big piece like Staal and take on draft picks and younger unknowns.
- Gunner Staal

I completely agree Gunner but it seems like they are at least entertaining the idea of moving him. If you don't want draft picks then you are going to have to take on guys that are relative unknowns because it wouldn't make any sense to move him for a guy with the same experience and contract.

We are bad trade partners
- Gunner Staal

what do we even have that you would want..... a winger? stafford, ennis, vanek.... i don't see buffalo and pitt making good trade partners for that reason.. unless it is some low level move that doesn't matter.

What everyone misses with this guy is that in a way you'd be buying low in that he's been playing 3rd line minutes. He is a younger, faster, more physical version of Drury. You notice this guy every time he plays.

Any trade would have to involve real players and not the garbage we want to get rid of. Staff and Roy? Laughable. They'd want guys like Hodgson or Foligno of McNab. If I am Pittsburgh I wouldn't move this guy.
- Slump Buster

He's avg almost 20min per game the last 5 seasons.

I completely agree Gunner but it seems like they are at least entertaining the idea of moving him. If you don't want draft picks then you are going to have to take on guys that are relative unknowns because it wouldn't make any sense to move him for a guy with the same experience and contract.
- Slump Buster

The only people entertaining a trade right now are fans. Shero has consistently said he wants to sign Staal long term.

The only people entertaining a trade right now are fans. Shero has consistently said he wants to sign Staal long term.
- Gunner Staal

Garth isn't a fan he is a journalist

Garth isn't a fan he is a journalist
- SabresFaninIndiana

Picks aren't what the Pens need or want. D and forwards. Only name that comes to mind from Buff is Vanek, other than that they are a non playoff team.

goat-mez, y'all

He's avg almost 20min per game the last 5 seasons.
- dadeadhead

many equate points to line designation...50 pts equals third-liner

*shrugs*

- dadeadhead

They really hit a homerun with that movie. That is not easy acting.

They really hit a homerun with that movie. That is not easy acting.
- Gunner Staal

It's in my top 10.

GARTH: Staalin?
- garth

If we're going to have a Staal fantasy, let's throw in some Victoria's Secrets models.



my first round draft pick...

Leino had 19 points in 21 playoff games, that doesnt make him a good player
- Rally_Shots

especially on a team that can't make the playoffs

If we're going to have a Staal fantasy, let's throw in some Victoria's Secrets models.
- Purple Eagle

we are not to page 10 yet

we are not to page 10 yet
- SabresFaninIndiana

Premature comes to mind.

Leino had 19 points in 21 playoff games, that doesnt make him a good player
- Rally_Shots

If you want to compare Staal to Leino that is your prerogative.

If you want to compare Staal to Leino that is your prerogative.
- Gunner Staal

(adds gas to the fire)


Well Leino has 28 playoff points in 37gp compaired to Staal's 36 in 73.

I realize Staal is the better player, by far. But you implied his 6 goals in the playoffs this year make him a good player, I'm just reminding people that 1 good playoff run doesnt make you a good player.
- Rally_Shots

The one good playoff run doesn't apply to Jordan Staal. He has been excellent every post season because he doesn't need the goals to be dominating force on the ice.

He scored the biggest goal of the Penguins 2009 Cup run. Game 4 down 2-1 with Detroit on the PP about to make it 3-1 and put the game out of reach given how awesomely dominate Detroit was at shutting things down in both the 2008 and 2009 Final.

If any Sabre could get us out of the first round of the playoffs I would be happy
- Rally_Shots

This is a problem IMO.


The goal is to win the cup, not just get past the 1st rd.

baby steps
- Rally_Shots

Thats all we've been doing since 1970.



Just saying.

baby steps
- Rally_Shots

baby steps are for people who accept failure

baby steps are for people who accept failure
- SabresFaninIndiana

Or quitters.

Or quitters.
- dadeadhead

or babies

Garth isn't a fan he is a journalist
- SabresFaninIndiana

you're kidding, right?

Or people who dont think this current roster can compete for a cup, I'm just being realistic at this point.
- Rally_Shots

i know you are i am just saying i want more than baby steps.. it seems like the management is willing to accept this crap though as baby steps