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Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 2:33 AM ET
Stewart they might get cheap, but Stastny is not going to be cheap. Really doubt Colorado wants to trade their #1 center.
- Unholy_Goalie


If they get stewart, that would be one hell of a trade, hes the pure definition of a power-forward, grit, size, height, big body, and can put the puck in the net.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
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Jun 1 @ 2:36 AM ET
Stewart they might get cheap, but Stastny is not going to be cheap. Really doubt Colorado wants to trade their #1 center.
- Unholy_Goalie


Oh and on top of that, O'Rielly had one hell of a season, he could very much move up to 2nd line centerman.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 2:36 AM ET
Stewart they might get cheap, but Stastny is not going to be cheap. Really doubt Colorado wants to trade their #1 center.
- Unholy_Goalie


Oh and on top of that, O'Rielly had one hell of a season, he could very much move up to 2nd line centerman.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 1 @ 2:40 AM ET
duchenes their number one center now just to make that clear. Colorado has alot of signings to do this summer and it starts with matt duchene. Which could very make stasny expendable. Matt duchene will get a salary close to tavares if not a bit less.
- Mapleleafs_91


You're wrong. Duchene was 3rd in ice time among centers. Stastny was #2 in average ice time but has been #1 for years. It's unlikely Duchene gets the same contract as Tavares but even if he does, that doesn't mean Stastny is gone.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 2:44 AM ET
You're wrong. Duchene was 3rd in ice time among centers. Stastny was #2 in average ice time but has been #1 for years. It's unlikely Duchene gets the same contract as Tavares but even if he does, that doesn't mean Stastny is gone.
- Unholy_Goalie


your point? hes practically the face of the franchise now sharing the spotlight with landeskog. Reminds me of joe sakic and forsberg.

Pretty sure o'rielly can take second line center with duchene taking first line center alongside landeskog and hedjuk
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 2:46 AM ET
your point? hes practically the face of the franchise now sharing the spotlight with landeskog. Reminds me of joe sakic and forsberg.

Pretty sure o'rielly can take second line center with duchene taking first line center alongside landeskog and hedjuk

- Mapleleafs_91


You aren't making any sense. Why would they just trade Stastny for no reason? He's been their #1 center for years. Just because they have Duchene and Landeskog doesn't mean they're going to dump Stastny.

Fact is, O'Reilly had a good year but he's really going to be their #3 center with Duchene and Stastny being #1 and #2 depending on how they are playing.

Depth at center is vital to success in the NHL. The Avs aren't just going to dump Stastny just because they have three solid centers. They need all three of them to succeed.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 2:49 AM ET
You aren't making any sense. Why would they just trade Stastny for no reason? He's been their #1 center for years. Just because they have Duchene and Landeskog doesn't mean they're going to dump Stastny.

Fact is, O'Reilly had a good year but he's really going to be their #3 center with Duchene and Stastny being #1 and #2 depending on how they are playing.

Depth at center is vital to success in the NHL. The Avs aren't just going to dump Stastny just because they have three solid centers. They need all three of them to succeed.

- Unholy_Goalie


well at 6.6 million with all the signings colorado has to do this summer, we will see what happens. Who knows. On the other hand i want stewart
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 2:55 AM ET
You aren't making any sense. Why would they just trade Stastny for no reason? He's been their #1 center for years. Just because they have Duchene and Landeskog doesn't mean they're going to dump Stastny.

Fact is, O'Reilly had a good year but he's really going to be their #3 center with Duchene and Stastny being #1 and #2 depending on how they are playing.

Depth at center is vital to success in the NHL. The Avs aren't just going to dump Stastny just because they have three solid centers. They need all three of them to succeed.

- Unholy_Goalie


In your opinion, which players are most likely to be traded for centerman/centermans this summer that we can acquire for our first line?
Unholy_Goalie
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Jun 1 @ 2:59 AM ET
well at 6.6 million with all the signings colorado has to do this summer, we will see what happens. Who knows. On the other hand i want stewart
- Mapleleafs_91


The Avalanche have the most cap space in the league. And they need to win to make money. So even though Stastny costs 6.6 million, he's part of a winning equation and that means keeping him and keeping the strength they have at center.
Unholy_Goalie
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Jun 1 @ 3:01 AM ET
In your opinion, which players are most likely to be traded for centerman/centermans this summer that we can acquire for our first line?
- Mapleleafs_91


You won't get a 1st line center without giving up our top prospects and draft picks. They aren't cheap.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 3:09 AM ET
Listen all you crazy people, Justin Schultz is very much heading to Toronto because of Gardiner, thank god. Next this leaves either franson or gunner expendable. I say no to schenn because hes the only tough defensive defencemen we got and i like schenn so all you guys can just shut up and leave him be. Schenn is going to destroy come playoff time so pipe down haters. I say gunner will be the most expendable since franson is a very good player.

Next note, Luongo is very much coming to the leafs, and the deal is going to go through, thus we have a goaltender that will bring us to the playoffs and shut up more than a billion leaf fans. Proof: http://www.vancitybuzz.co...eets-luongo-to-the-leafs/

Onwards: Brian Burke mentioned that we still needed a centerman and a power-forward with size, grit, and scoring abilities. For the power forward, i believe chris stewart makes the most logical sense for the leafs, he is all of that and he fights. A really good low key pick up at a good price since st louis blues are not too fond of him.

For centermans, we can go onward of getzlaf being available, jordan staal, etc etc but really guys, do you honestly think we would get those players? Ducks have so much money, they will resign both getz and perry. Jordan staal will be resigned or go to carolina. I believe Paul Stasny makes the most sense at a cheap price with salary of course going the other way to balance the trade.

Thus our line-up next season:

Lupul Stastny Kessel
Kulemin Grabo Stewart
Kadri Bozak Frattin
Brown Stecks Crabbman

Phaneuf Schenn
Gardiner Schultz
Liles Franson

Luongo
Reimer

- Mapleleafs_91


Lineup fixed. If that all happens....IF, the lineup would be more like this, although I'm trying to figure out who went where.....I actually agree with UG on this one, Kadri would most likely go the other way....but let's assume it's Colborne.

Not sure who would go where, but it becomes a total exchange of Stastny, Stewart & Luongo for Colborne, Mac, Komi, Connolly, Army, Gunnar, maybe another prospect and perhaps our 2nd rounder.
Phenom
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Jun 1 @ 3:11 AM ET
Why would the Leafs go out and get Stastny and then put him on the 2nd line?

Stastny wouldn't come cheap. In fact, it'd probably cost the Leafs Kadri, whom you have playing on his wing. And that would only be the beginning of what it would cost. The Avalanche aren't in a hurry to dump their #1 center and definitely wouldn't do it for cheap either.

- Unholy_Goalie


I agree with you, except for one thing....I think Matt Duchene has usurped Stastny as the #1 centre, which makes him and his contract kind of expendable for them.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 3:12 AM ET
You won't get a 1st line center without giving up our top prospects and draft picks. They aren't cheap.
- Unholy_Goalie


Well think about this...

Getzlaf, Jordan Staal, Stasny, marleau, thorton, parise, and patrick kane have all been thrown into rumours that are legit number one centermans. Out of all those guys stasny costs the least in my opinion. Secondly marleau and thorton are old. Jordan staal is getting resigned or moved to carolina to play with his brothers. Getzlaf and Perry will be resigned since the ducks have almost 25 mill to spend + more and only have to extend getz and perrys contract about 2 mill each which wont cost them much. Parise as you said wont come here most likely and probably will resign with the devils, if he comes here, itd be a miracle. Patrick kane on the other hand is a big ? though how does a team trade their stanely cup final game winner away? kind of stupid to get rid of a 23 year old just because he parties hard. Where lastly i believe stasny could be available for the right price.
Unholy_Goalie
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Jun 1 @ 3:14 AM ET
I agree with you, except for one thing....I think Matt Duchene has usurped Stastny as the #1 centre, which makes him and his contract kind of expendable for them.
- Phenom


Not yet he hasn't. Stastny still gets more ice time. Depth at center isn't expendable. Having Stastny, Duchene and O'Reilly up the middle is a damn good way to rekindle success in Colorado. No way they would trade that away unless it was a big overpayment.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 3:16 AM ET
Well think about this...

Getzlaf, Jordan Staal, Stasny, marleau, thorton, parise, and patrick kane have all been thrown into rumours that are legit number one centermans.

- Mapleleafs_91


None of them are coming to Toronto. Marleau, Parise and Kane aren't centers.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 3:17 AM ET
None of them are coming to Toronto. Marleau, Parise and Kane aren't centers.
- Unholy_Goalie


oh but they can very much play center.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 3:18 AM ET
Not yet he hasn't. Stastny still gets more ice time. Depth at center isn't expendable. Having Stastny, Duchene and O'Reilly up the middle is a damn good way to rekindle success in Colorado. No way they would trade that away unless it was a big overpayment.
- Unholy_Goalie


Duchene will eventually be #1 and will command #1 money this summer. I can't see Colorado wanting to keep both of them when Stastny is making $6.6 up until he becomes a UFA. That $6.6 salary will prevent overpayment imo.
Unholy_Goalie
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Jun 1 @ 3:18 AM ET
oh but they can very much play center.
- Mapleleafs_91


Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 3:20 AM ET
Lineup fixed. If that all happens....IF, the lineup would be more like this, although I'm trying to figure out who went where.....I actually agree with UG on this one, Kadri would most likely go the other way....but let's assume it's Colborne.

Not sure who would go where, but it becomes a total exchange of Stastny, Stewart & Luongo for Colborne, Mac, Komi, Connolly, Army, Gunnar, maybe another prospect and perhaps our 2nd rounder.

- Phenom


I dont see us giving away our top prospects, if it costs our top prospects for stasny than id say forget it haha id rather keep colborne and kadri. And maybe he has a point there. But i would have kadri on the second line over kulemin, kulemin is more of a third line type player in my opinion.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 3:20 AM ET
Yeah, but he's truculent!

Biggs is going to play in the OHL next season, which is where he should have been this season. Hopefully he improves. But I wouldn't bet on it.

- Unholy_Goalie


Haven't heard a thing about him this season. Progress???
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 3:22 AM ET
Duchene will eventually be #1 and will command #1 money this summer. I can't see Colorado wanting to keep both of them when Stastny is making $6.6 up until he becomes a UFA. That $6.6 salary will prevent overpayment imo.
- Phenom


He won't get big money on this one. Maybe the next one, but not this one. This contract will be affordable for the Avalanche. The 6.6 million isn't as a big a problem as people are trying way too hard to make it seem.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 3:24 AM ET

- Unholy_Goalie


Pretty sure kane is pretty much a playmaker and was used center for chicago this past season, parise has played center before, and marleau has played wing but has played center...

implying that having a line like kessel parise lupul wont dominate

or kessel kane lupul... as long as u can set up the damn play, win faceoffs, and backcheck i could care less. They can play center, alot of players can heck kessel and lupul could be center if they really wanted too. Its not like these players have not ever played center before. Just because they play one way now on certain teams does not mean they are not versatile.

EDIT: but for us, kessel is 100 times better on the wing. Depends who fits the category, players make adjustments, these players have played center before, its not a big deal. If you have a kick ass line that dominates, you cant really say anything about that. EDIT: Just as some centermans get shifted to the wing, does not mean a centerman cannot play wing.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 3:27 AM ET
None of them are coming to Toronto. Marleau, Parise and Kane aren't centers.
- Unholy_Goalie


Marleau is....at least he was before thrown in with Thornton....and he takes a lot of faceoffs.
Unholy_Goalie
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Jun 1 @ 3:29 AM ET


EDIT: but for us, kessel is 100 times better on the wing.

- Mapleleafs_91


And so are those other players because they either suck at faceoffs or back-checking or both. They aren't centers for the same reasons Kessel isn't a center.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 1 @ 3:29 AM ET
Marleau is....at least he was before thrown in with Thornton....and he takes a lot of faceoffs.
- Phenom


kane played center before for chicago, marleau played center before for sanjose, parise has played center before in his life, kessel played center before in his life but his better a winger and sniper, lupul has played center before like all can play center technically.
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