Burke screwed up. Sugar coat it all you like. He can undo the mistake by trading Kessel and rebuild the way he should have from day one.
- Unholy_Goalie

Know what, this is getting tiresome. let's have a change of pace.....

Is there anything you LIKE about this team....at all? Of course I'm assuming you actually are a Leaf fan....

Lupul is a weak link, Kessel is a a great no2 on a contending team, and Phaneuf - well I'm not the biggest fan, but I'll wait for final judgement... this 'core group' is quite a mess
- Nastradamus

Stack that up against the Flyers or the Penguins or the Rangers or any true contenders. See how long they last in a playoff series.

I'm fairly certain Grigs will be available at 5, but whether he's great... well that's a whole other discussion. I would take Murray if he was still available at 5 (don't see it happening, but hey), atleast that would let us move a few of our young D for young forwards
- Nastradamus

oh man, if the leafs can get Murray at 5, plus sign Schultz to go along with gardiner.

You're right, I won't...but seriously, the best character on the show. Please please please.....let him live!
- Phenom

that didn't save poor ned .... and he's not dead there's no way

Lupul is a weak link, Kessel is a a great no2 on a contending team, and Phaneuf - well I'm not the biggest fan, but I'll wait for final judgement... this 'core group' is quite a mess
- Nastradamus

You could be right, I'm not saying you're not. BUT, I think it's still too early to tell. Once we actually have a playoff TEAM, operative word TEAM (not just 3 key members) and it fails miserably with no hope, then I will agree with you. Until then, the jury is still out, imo. And Lupul a weak link? Well, that's where you ARE wrong. He's a heart and soul guy that can produce.

oh man, if the leafs can get Murray at 5, plus sign Schultz to go along with gardiner.
- pellerin19

Lebrun said Leafs aren't in on Luongo but could sneak in there, and that they're interested in Vokoun and Lindback.

He also said Tim Thomas might take the year off.

Know what, this is getting tiresome. let's have a change of pace.....

Is there anything you LIKE about this team....at all? Of course I'm assuming you actually are a Leaf fan....
- Phenom

I like that our goaltending next year, as of right now, consists of Reimer and Scrivens and that means we have a damn good chance to tank it next year.

i think theres plenty of teams that would be interested in getting kessel. florida has huberdeau, bjugstad, howden (not saying we get them in a package, just listing their good pieces, same with rest of teams i list), rangers have kreider, erixon, even del zotto and mcdonagh, islanders with strome, nino, kabanov, dehaan, philly has schenn and bobrovsky, pittsburgh has bennett, tangradi, morrow and despres, carolina has rask, dalpe and murphy, tb has connelly, namestnikov and panik, washington has kuznetsov and neuverith, detroit has plenty of names, nashville has lindback, blum, watson, stl has tarasenko, schwartz, colorado has siemens and hishon, im getting bored of listing the names, but you get my point. im pretty sure a team would be interested and be willing to give up a nice package for kessel. it might not be a seguin, hamilton and knight, but it will be similar

Lebrun said Leafs aren't in on Luongo but could sneak in there, and that they're interested in Vokoun and Lindback.

He also said Tim Thomas might take the year off.
- jbold

war lindback.

Lebrun said Leafs aren't in on Luongo but could sneak in there, and that they're interested in Vokoun and Lindback.

He also said Tim Thomas might take the year off.
- jbold

I'd be ok with Vokoun for a year or 2.

oh man, if the leafs can get Murray at 5, plus sign Schultz to go along with gardiner.
- pellerin19

Insanely small odds of happening.

I like that our goaltending next year, as of right now, consists of Reimer and Scrivens and that means we have a damn good chance to tank it next year.
- Unholy_Goalie

wow you need to give it up...... i'm not saying you're wrong but you're over the top

I'm fairly certain Grigs will be available at 5, but whether he's great... well that's a whole other discussion. I would take Murray if he was still available at 5 (don't see it happening, but hey), atleast that would let us move a few of our young D for young forwards
- Nastradamus

Grigs definitely has question marks but he has the potential to be great and bottom line is we need that big #1 centre. He provides that and if we can get him, we gotta take him and hope that case of mono was what was holding him back.

I'm pretty sure if Murray is there at #4, which I think he will be, the Islanders would be retarded not to grab him. They NEED a force on the back end more than anything, but again, this is Garth Snow picking so that could mean anything.

Insanely small odds of happening.
- Unholy_Goalie

yah id be surprised if he doesnt go top 3

I'd be ok with Vokoun for a year or 2.
- Mr_Smokey

or 1

I think I just came
- JIMI-JAMES

I would have too...but then I saw Francis and it killed my wood instantly

I like that our goaltending next year, as of right now, consists of Reimer and Scrivens and that means we have a damn good chance to tank it next year.
- Unholy_Goalie

No chance the Leafs start the season with those two.. regardless of your imminent wet dream.

Stack that up against the Flyers or the Penguins or the Rangers or any true contenders. See how long they last in a playoff series.


- Unholy_Goalie

which is why they should deal them while they have value. kessel and lupuls values are as high as can be right now. pha9 we let him play like 20 games, do what he did last season at the beginning before his play fell off and trade when his value is high. stock the cupboards with elite prospects and picks to fill the cupboard. these guys won't want to resign with us when their contracts end if we cant be competitive. only phaneuf might but he will prob want a similar contract. kessel we will have to over pay greatly to keep him around and lupul will want a long contract to stay and we all know burke dont do no long contract

Stack that up against the Flyers or the Penguins or the Rangers or any true contenders. See how long they last in a playoff series.


- Unholy_Goalie

I know as much about it as you do....and vice versa. Why? Because you won't know until it happens. It's only speculation. Look at what happened in this year's playoffs.....nobody can predict that. End of discussion.

No chance the Leafs start the season with those two.. regardless of your imminent wet dream.
- Mr_Smokey

allright, so they can't permanately ban the boob.. got it..

can they at least automatically filter out anything that dumbass says that has the word tank in it?

.. that would help anyways..

that didn't save poor ned .... and he's not dead there's no way
- The_Vark

Yup, Ned was so cool.....but I understand why they killed him off storyline wise. But Tyrion, no way. Besides, they didn't 'show' him dying so I think he'll live.

Lebrun said Leafs aren't in on Luongo but could sneak in there, and that they're interested in Vokoun and Lindback.

He also said Tim Thomas might take the year off.
- jbold

Take a year off? Who does he think he is, Hasek?

I like that our goaltending next year, as of right now, consists of Reimer and Scrivens and that means we have a damn good chance to tank it next year.
- Unholy_Goalie

And that's why you're trashed on this site....dumb answers like that when I ask you a legit question.

I would have too...but then I saw Francis and it killed my wood instantly
- Phenom

I substituted Tucker for Francis and added Leetch and Belfour/Cujo