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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 7:50 PM ET
Those came free with the reinforced underside
- ChipBurger

Wow. GM is just giving that away? No wonder Motor City is hurting.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 31 @ 7:50 PM ET
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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 7:53 PM ET
No I don't need you to do that. That is far from the point. My point is that they are all quoting the same so called "source". They're all just repeating the same thing like parrots.
- MJL


And they're feeding the sheeple, who eat it up and pass it on with no verification.

I need to come up with a similar ploy that makes money.

Phase 1. Spread false rumor

Phase 2. ???

Phase 3. Profit

MJL, please work on Phase 2. Thanks.

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 7:54 PM ET
I've been banned for less. Just saying.
- Daman

wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 31 @ 7:55 PM ET
And they're feeding the sheeple, who eat it up and pass it on with no verification.

I need to come up with a ploy that way that makes money.

Phase 1. Spread false rumor

Phase 2. ???

Phase 3. Profit

MJL, please work on Phase 2. Thanks.


- Flyskippy


While not tasked with this assignment, I thought I'd make the pictch that for No. 2, you need to create an alterego or fake entity attacking said false rumor so as to incite public madness. Maybe that's more of a 1A.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 31 @ 7:56 PM ET
And they're feeding the sheeple, who eat it up and pass it on with no verification.

I need to come up with a ploy that way that makes money.

Phase 1. Spread false rumor

Phase 2. ???

Phase 3. Profit

MJL, please work on Phase 2. Thanks.


- Flyskippy


Phase 2 is share the same BS with your reporter buddies. That way your BS is being reported by multiple sources. Therefore the sheeple will think your BS is credible.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 7:56 PM ET
While not tasked with this assignment, I thought I'd make the pictch that for No. 2, you need to create an alterego or fake entity attacking said false rumor so as to incite public madness. Maybe that's more of a 1A.
- wilsonecho91


You're...


(Hired! er... Part II)
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 31 @ 7:56 PM ET
I really don't think people who live in the suburbs of any big city typically consider the crime in the city. Most people who live in the suburbs never even go into or through the city they live near. I just try to steer clear of post offices.
- bodiva88

well that's funny because I do live in the suburb of a city and yes when a dead body gets found within walking distance, and the occassional shooting (3) that I can think of off the top of my head, yes I consider moving and once I can I will so I don't see why since I myself consider it it is totally unreasonable to think someone else in my position would think that. Again I'm only talking from personal experience not based on what I read on a computer with the luxury while on said computer like you and Chipburger to say I don't know what I'm talking about. oh and the city I live in is nothing like Detroit.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 7:56 PM ET
Phase 2 is share the same BS with your reporter buddies. That way your BS is being reported by multiple sources. Therefore the sheeple will think your BS is credible.
- MJL


Ok. I'll start working on my project, DisgraceBook, immediately. I'll let you know when the IPO is gonna happen.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 7:58 PM ET
well that's funny because I do live in the suburb of a city and yes when a dead body gets found within walking distance, and the occassional shooting (3) that I can think of off the top of my head, yes I consider moving and once I can I will so I don't see why since I myself consider it it is totally unreasonable to think someone else in my position would think that. Again I'm only talking from personal experience not based on what I read on a computer with the luxury while on said computer like you and Chipburger to say I don't know what I'm talking about.
- JoeRussomanno


Well, he probably meant you didn't know about Detroit, not your neighborhood that he knows nothing about.

Of course, for all we know, you might be the suspect in said incidents and I am glad I live here in .... someplace else.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 31 @ 8:06 PM ET
Ok. I'll start working on my project, DisgraceBook, immediately. I'll let you know when the IPO is gonna happen.
- Flyskippy


Don't forget step 4. Confront the subject with your BS and then when he gives you a contradictory answer. Ignore it and print what you think according to your agenda anyway!

And continue on to step 5. Rage on in a personal battle with said subject.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 31 @ 8:06 PM ET
Well, he probably meant you didn't know about Detroit, not your neighborhood that he knows nothing about.

Of course, for all we know, you might be the suspect in said incidents and I am glad I live here in .... someplace else.


- Flyskippy

well if people followed the conversation and actually read what I said other than taking the luxury of throwing insults It was basically I could see how the idea of living near the most dangerous city in the country could be something a player considers, I never said Ryan SUter isn't going there, or any other specific player. There are players that have preferences on where they would like to play and they don't always disclose why they do or don't want to go. I don't think i've said I'm 100% about this either.

I will say, NO Detroit isn't like any other city and yes there are other hellhole metropolitan areas.

I think I even mentioned this is something I really don't feel that inclined to continue to discuss but then I come back on here and I read it continuing and mentioning of me specifically "not knowing what I'm talking about" when I don't think I've ever singled anyone out for insult on this board especially when they mention something a dead issue if I did I'm sorry.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 31 @ 8:10 PM ET
Don't forget step 4. Confront the subject with your BS and then when he gives you a contradictory answer. Ignore it and print what you think according to your agenda anyway!

And continue on to step 5. Rage on in a personal battle with said subject.

- MJL


until said subject is forced with the decision to either go to dry island or Ohio State University

edit: i think i lost the script
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 31 @ 8:11 PM ET
And I'm going to go out on a limb and say that JoeRussomanno and RooNosHockey don't know what they're talking about.
- ChipBurger

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're full of crap with your story or live in a bubble with a false sense of security how's that.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 8:12 PM ET
until said subject is forced with the decision to either go to dry island or Ohio State University

edit: i think i lost the script

- wilsonecho91



You guys are killing me here!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 8:12 PM ET
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're full of crap with your story or live in a bubble with a false sense of security how's that.
- JoeRussomanno

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 31 @ 8:12 PM ET
until said subject is forced with the decision to either go to dry island or Ohio State University

edit: i think i lost the script

- wilsonecho91


That's okay. Just make it up. That's what they do!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 31 @ 8:13 PM ET
So the Cap is going to be 70.3M? Interesting.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 31 @ 8:16 PM ET
S. Baicker reporting on twitter:

Multiple reports have Pronger moving to St Louis. I do know a moving fan was at his house and movers said he was "going out of state."

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 8:18 PM ET
S. Baicker reporting on twitter:

Multiple reports have Pronger moving to St Louis. I do know a moving fan was at his house and movers said he was "going out of state."

- wilsonecho91


JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 31 @ 8:22 PM ET
S. Baicker reporting on twitter:

Multiple reports have Pronger moving to St Louis. I do know a moving fan was at his house and movers said he was "going out of state."

- wilsonecho91

if he's just gonna ride out the LTIR thing until his contract is out, does he have to live in the Philadelphia area? I know he has to report of an annual physical and all but I don't see a problem with him moving to where he's comfortable.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 31 @ 8:24 PM ET
if he's just gonna ride out the LTIR thing until his contract is out, does he have to live in the Philadelphia area? I know he has to report of an annual physical and all but I don't see a problem with him moving to where he's comfortable.
- JoeRussomanno


I don't see why he has to live in Philly.
ChipBurger
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The D, MI
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 31 @ 8:27 PM ET
well that's funny because I do live in the suburb of a city and yes when a dead body gets found within walking distance, and the occassional shooting (3) that I can think of off the top of my head, yes I consider moving and once I can I will so I don't see why since I myself consider it it is totally unreasonable to think someone else in my position would think that. Again I'm only talking from personal experience not based on what I read on a computer with the luxury while on said computer like you and Chipburger to say I don't know what I'm talking about. oh and the city I live in is nothing like Detroit.
- JoeRussomanno


Well all I'm saying is I live 10 minutes from downtown Detroit, and my town of 20,000 hasn't had a murder since I've been a live.
People like to talk about how dangerous Detroit is, and all I'm saying is the "danger" is confined to a couple residential parts of the actual city of Detroit. Parts that no one will ever have any reason to go to.
Look, I found a list that says St. Loius is more dangerous then Detroit. And Troy, where the Wings practice 15 minutes from downtown, is one of the safest cities of the country.
http://www.morganquitno.com/cit07pop.htm

I could see a warzone like Detroit being an area a player/person would not want to live in
i'd rather not live with Vietnam in my backyard

What personal experience are you basing this on?
Talk to anyone from this area, and they'll tell you how wrong that is.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 31 @ 8:28 PM ET
S. Baicker reporting on twitter:

Multiple reports have Pronger moving to St Louis. I do know a moving fan was at his house and movers said he was "going out of state."

- wilsonecho91


A moving fan at his house? Does it oscillate and have three speeds? Or does it mean a Flyers fan was moving out of state, too?

ChipBurger
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The D, MI
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 31 @ 8:28 PM ET
So the Cap is going to be 70.3M? Interesting.
- MJL


That's funny, seeing as how there's no CBA for next year.
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