15k in Winnipeg you would have to have 25k in brooklyn
80.00 for nose bleed seats and up 199.99 for lower bowl. when was the last time the Islanders got to charge those prices?
- dav12389

About thirty years ago...

the thing with todays arenas is they know how to get the most seats in to maximize $ so re-configuring wont really do much as they would be already maximizing seat-space ratio (if that makes sense- most possible seats possible) but due to the small size of the arena there will also be a limited amount of luxury boxes that can be put in

sure they will make revenue and all, but im not sure if the higher ups would like a NHL team in a small arena in a large city when they know that the isles can get crowds of 17k rather than 14k because well that would create more revenue
- dmarsden2988

It holds 14,500 people but a HUGE percentage of that would not be able to see a lot of the icce. The second level will hang over one end of the ice. When building this arena they chose to make it smaller and not build it for hockey. It save a ton of money in the space needed to build the arena and construction costs. While I am all for the Islanders playing there till something better happens with the Nassau political nonsense.. it is not a long term option by any means. (Go to the October scrimage to see for yourself)

As far as Brooklyn not being viable... Sorry Dee that is just foolish. You would get more people with access to the games .. .and it would be very viable. The issue is the size of the Arena not the location. (I am still hoping for a queens miracle). Suffolk Arena would be less viable b/c it would be THAT much further for people in Nassau, NYC Area, Conn and Jersey... and believe it or not a lot from those areas attend Isles games.

It holds 14,500 people but a HUGE percentage of that would not be able to see a lot of the icce. The second level will hang over one end of the ice. When building this arena they chose to make it smaller and not build it for hockey. It save a ton of money in the space needed to build the arena and construction costs. While I am all for the Islanders playing there till something better happens with the Nassau political nonsense.. it is not a long term option by any means. (Go to the October scrimage to see for yourself)

As far as Brooklyn not being viable... Sorry Dee that is just foolish. You would get more people with access to the games .. .and it would be very viable. The issue is the size of the Arena not the location. (I am still hoping for a queens miracle). Suffolk Arena would be less viable b/c it would be THAT much further for people in Nassau, NYC Area, Conn and Jersey... and believe it or not a lot from those areas attend Isles games.
- niteislander

Brooklyn would be great but from what I'm reading it wouldn't work long term. I can't see them changing an arena that was just built to meet the needs of a hockey team.

For me, having the Islanders in Brooklyn would be no different from having them in Kansas City, as in I have no desire to travel to either. -Dee Karl.

Really, having them maybe and hour or 2 away in the city is the same as them being over a thousand miles away in the midwest? You have any idea how (frank)ing stupid you sound by saying that? That's as stupid as the crap we hear from those morons in the TOH, and nassau county.

Really, having them maybe and hour or 2 away in the city is the same as them being over a thousand miles away in the midwest? You have any idea how (frank)ing stupid you sound by saying that? That's as stupid as the crap we hear from those morons in the TOH, and nassau county.
- The Iceman

I thought that was pretty funny myself, the hits just keep on coming

Hopefully the building could be re-configured down the line. Even with 14.5k there should be plenty of the luxury boxes in the building to help with revenue.
- ses111

My season Ticket agent said we will all see for ourself that it just will not work. the Re-config would have to make a bigger building.. he said it would have to be a complete renovation of the building not an easy Seat fix. The mezzanine was built so the first row would be very close to the court in Hoops all the way around... that is great for hoops but when u expand the playing surface for Hockey you are screwed.

You're not seriously comparing a Federal League team's ability to make hockey work to that of an NHL franchise, are you? Brooklyn is an evolving borough. Its been going through a reformation for some time. I lived there for years. I still go back all the time. There is no doubt that Brooklyn could support the Islanders, at the very least support them as well as Nassau County has (or hasn't) over the past decade-plus.

If Brooklyn weren't considered a borough of NYC, it would be one of the largest cities in the U.S. population-wise. Put something worth watching on the ice and the Barclays will be full. Corporate sponsorship in Manhattan and Bklyn that can't afford or get access to MSG will be interested in the Isles. Fans from both Manhattan and Bklyn who can't afford or get season tickets to the Rangers will certainly be candidates to go to the Barclays.

but from reports i have heard, the barclays center would only hold about 14.5k fans, in a huge metropolitan area for a sport that apparently is growing, bettman and co are going to want them to have at least a 17k arena, so unless barclays is a stop gap while another arena has been planned and approved and is in the beginning stages of being built, im not sure how viable it is

*i dont want the isles to leave, im just lookin at it from the top guys perspective
- dmarsden2988

Obviously, you'd rather have as many seats as possible, but the truth is, these arenas generate more revenue from luxury suties and corporate sponsorship than they do from cheap seats in the third levels.

From what I know, the Barclays has plenty of luxury suites, enough to rival any competitor's arena. The Jets play at MTS Centre and it only holds 14,500 for hockey, yet it works for them just fine. The NHL didn't place any restrictions on True North to build another bigger arena in place of the MTS Centre when allowing Atlanta to be relocated to Winnipeg. The Isles can't draw more than 10K now at the NVMC. They'd be lucky to sell out 14,500 seats. As long as the arena generates enough revenue for the team to turn a profit, it doesn't matter how many seats are inside.

15k in Winnipeg you would have to have 25k in brooklyn
80.00 for nose bleed seats and up 199.99 for lower bowl. when was the last time the Islanders got to charge those prices?
- dav12389

Winnipeg's arena doesn't make money off its nose bleed seats. Its money is generated from luxury suites and its lower bowl seats, just like all other arenas. The money is in luxury boxes, not seats. That's why professional sports team owers are hell-bent on getting new arenas and stadiums: they want more luxury boxes. Both CitiField and Yankee Stadium hold considerably less fans than their predecessor stadiums, yet they generate more money for their teams because of the luxury suites.

It holds 14,500 people but a HUGE percentage of that would not be able to see a lot of the icce. The second level will hang over one end of the ice. When building this arena they chose to make it smaller and not build it for hockey. It save a ton of money in the space needed to build the arena and construction costs. While I am all for the Islanders playing there till something better happens with the Nassau political nonsense.. it is not a long term option by any means. (Go to the October scrimage to see for yourself)

As far as Brooklyn not being viable... Sorry Dee that is just foolish. You would get more people with access to the games .. .and it would be very viable. The issue is the size of the Arena not the location. (I am still hoping for a queens miracle). Suffolk Arena would be less viable b/c it would be THAT much further for people in Nassau, NYC Area, Conn and Jersey... and believe it or not a lot from those areas attend Isles games.
- niteislander

The further away from a major city you go, the less viable a team is. That's why nobody is starting up major professional sports franchises in the suburbs and you only see minor league baseball teams wind up out there.

Obviously, you'd rather have as many seats as possible, but the truth is, these arenas generate more revenue from luxury suties and corporate sponsorship than they do from cheap seats in the third levels. From what I know, the Barclays has plenty of luxury suites, enough to rival any competitor's arena. The Jets play at MTS Centre and it only holds 14,500 for hockey, yet it works for them just fine. The NHL didn't place any restrictions on True North to build another bigger arena in place of the MTS Centre when allowing Atlanta to be relocated to Winnipeg. The Isles can't draw more than 10K now at the NVMC. They'd be lucky to sell out 14,500 seats. As long as the arena generates enough revenue for the team to turn a profit, it doesn't matter how many seats are inside.
- Jethro09

This is definitely true in the short term, but in the long term, the best way to get new fans into the sport is to be there live, the excitement and the live sound of a packed NHL game is unreal.

The more fans you get into the game/team, the more fans you have out there giving the isles website hits, hearing the ads from sponsors, and buying licensed merchandise - all of which combined has the capacity to be worth FAR more than ticket revenue alone.

You want that extra capacity for these reasons - even 16k with 1k standing room would be enough, really.

It holds 14,500 people but a HUGE percentage of that would not be able to see a lot of the icce. The second level will hang over one end of the ice. When building this arena they chose to make it smaller and not build it for hockey. It save a ton of money in the space needed to build the arena and construction costs. While I am all for the Islanders playing there till something better happens with the Nassau political nonsense.. it is not a long term option by any means. (Go to the October scrimage to see for yourself)

As far as Brooklyn not being viable... Sorry Dee that is just foolish. You would get more people with access to the games .. .and it would be very viable. The issue is the size of the Arena not the location. (I am still hoping for a queens miracle). Suffolk Arena would be less viable b/c it would be THAT much further for people in Nassau, NYC Area, Conn and Jersey... and believe it or not a lot from those areas attend Isles games.
- niteislander

driving from connecticut..i pretty much have to take the day off to go to a weekday game. brooklyn or queens would work..suffolk would be a pain..but honestly as long as they are in NY i don't care

Really, having them maybe and hour or 2 away in the city is the same as them being over a thousand miles away in the midwest? You have any idea how (frank)ing stupid you sound by saying that? That's as stupid as the crap we hear from those morons in the TOH, and nassau county.
- The Iceman

Gotta agree 100%

XxNYIxX

Really, having them maybe and hour or 2 away in the city is the same as them being over a thousand miles away in the midwest? You have any idea how (frank)ing stupid you sound by saying that? That's as stupid as the crap we hear from those morons in the TOH, and nassau county.
- The Iceman

Agree 100%...

You guys have to kidding me.
Brooklyn is pretty much just a suburb of Kansas City.

For me, having the Islanders in Brooklyn would be no different from having them in Kansas City, as in I have no desire to travel to either

Possibly one of the dumbest things I have ever read. I can guarantee you that if the Islanders play in Brooklyn and our winning you will go to games unless you for whatever reason you against the team playing anywhere but Uniondale.

For me, having the Islanders in Brooklyn would be no different from having them in Kansas City, as in I have no desire to travel to either

Possibly one of the dumbest things I have ever read. I can guarantee you that if the Islanders play in Brooklyn and our winning you will go to games unless you for whatever reason you against the team playing anywhere but Uniondale.
- latorrem1

Dee write something dumb? Never! She's just a Wanger fueled propaganda machine, cut her some slack.

You guys have to kidding me.
Brooklyn is pretty much just a suburb of Kansas City.
- potvin05

LOFL...

XxNYIxX

From the Oilers Blog:


- Who threw it out there...I think it was on Twitter again...that Doug Weight is interested in the Oilers Head Coaching job? I don't think so. Last time I heard an interview with Weight (about 4 months ago) he was talking about how new he was to coaching, and how much he needed to learn. Would love to see Weight be an Oiler again, but I don't think he's ready. I don't think he thinks he's ready either, which is perhaps more important.

From the Oilers Blog:


- Who threw it out there...I think it was on Twitter again...that Doug Weight is interested in the Oilers Head Coaching job? I don't think so. Last time I heard an interview with Weight (about 4 months ago) he was talking about how new he was to coaching, and how much he needed to learn. Would love to see Weight be an Oiler again, but I don't think he's ready. I don't think he thinks he's ready either, which is perhaps more important.
- LetsGoIsles

read that too

I think hockey would work in Brooklyn.

Games during the week would be attended by Nassau/Queens/Brooklyn residents and Suffolk residents who are taking the LIRR home from work. A few here and there will take the ride from Suffolk during the week.

The weekends will include fans from all over the area.

I could see the NHL making most of our games at 730pm to allow people a little extra time to make it to the game.

As for LIRR prices - a lot of people from Suffolk/Nassau who would be attending these games work in NYC and have a monthly pass so they will utilize that. Brooklyn/Queens people would take the subway which is $5 roundtrip.

I would enjoy the Islanders in Brooklyn because they wouldn't be in Nassau anymore
- kcNYI

i love how people think having the islanders in a more centralized location would result in the NHL feeling the need to make a later start time.....

from last blog:

I agree, Capuano is not the right man for the job. Some people on here say we aren't ready for a "real" coach which I find hysterical(I say on here bcs I hear this shat no where else)? You need a real coach to teach and develop your high draft picks and "high end" talent. It is so damn important I have no idea how some brush it off like it's no big deal? Just what I see from a fans (a rabid fan) point of view I wouldn't let this guy near my players, draft picks, anyone for that matter. He so clearly doesn't have a clue it's obvious to even the casual hockey fan. The coaching situation is an absolute disgrace, Wang and Snow lost whatever little credibility they may have had in some peoples eyes by giving him the vote of confidence for another season. What was their reasoning for keeping him on another season?

you know i cant let this comment go without commenting on it....who the HELL has said that??????

For me, having the Islanders in Brooklyn would be no different from having them in Kansas City, as in I have no desire to travel to either

Possibly one of the dumbest things I have ever read. I can guarantee you that if the Islanders play in Brooklyn and our winning you will go to games unless you for whatever reason you against the team playing anywhere but Uniondale.
- latorrem1

Stick around.. We'll try and top it before the draft.

You guys have to kidding me.
Brooklyn is pretty much just a suburb of Kansas City.
- potvin05

from last blog:


you know i cant let this comment go without commenting on it....who the HELL has said that??????
- LetsGoIsles

I honestly think I recall you saying it ? I've heard it a few times on here, "we aren't ready for a real coach". Many times even, boggles the mind. Shocking to hear such blatant stupidity on here.