CLIT blows
- QuebecPride

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Why would Edmonton do that, if they can just draft Murray at #1?
- mcmanmat

Because they know Yakupov is a coveted player. They can get a better/extra pick if they trade down. That said they would have to make Columbus isn't taking him.

Why would Edmonton do that, if they can just draft Murray at #1?
- mcmanmat

In his proposal they also get a 33rd pic for their first.

So 1st overall for 3rd and 33rd overall

Why would Edmonton do that, if they can just draft Murray at #1?
- mcmanmat

Becuae Montreal would have to send Tinordi with the Picks.

I wouldn't want to draft a player the Colombus scouting staff considers the best prospect available.
- _nay_

Who?

And source or just your speculation?

Somehow I don't see Columbus taking a defenseman. They'll get some good d propsects in the Nash trade so they would take Galchenyuk/Forsberg/Grigorenko.

I think Murray goes #4 to NYI if Edmonton doesn't take him.
- Apples

Problem is they need everything If I was Edmonton I'd just take Yakupov go into the season with their squad, if they suck again get Seth Jones (D) and figure which of their many young stars could be moved for a star dman.

Yakupov >>>>>> #3 and #33
- Apples

Galchenyuk and Grigorenko have a higher ceiling than him, and will most likely both be avi at #3. Thing is Yakupov can play right away, while I'm not sure for the other 2.

And at between 15 to 50, there's not much difference. At 32nd (most likely) you'll have a pretty good player, a guy who is probably a 1st rounder in the Habs mind.

CLIT blows
- QuebecPride

it's an aquired taste, the more you get the more you learn to love it.

Problem is they need everything If I was Edmonton I'd just take Yakupov go into the season with their squad, if they suck again get Seth Jones (D) and figure which of their many young stars could be moved for a star dman.
- AdamFrench

Seth Jones will be amazing... Should've made Team USA U-20... at 16

Who?

And source or just your speculation?
- Apples

Anyone.

I'd do the same as Burkie, but reverse.

Galchenyuk and Grigorenko have a higher ceiling than him, and will most likely both be avi at #3. Thing is Yakupov can play right away, while I'm not sure for the other 2.

And at between 15 to 50, there's not much difference. At 32nd (most likely) you'll have a pretty good player, a guy who is probably a 1st rounder in the Habs mind.
- QuebecPride

Speculation.

Problem is they need everything If I was Edmonton I'd just take Yakupov go into the season with their squad, if they suck again get Seth Jones (D) and figure which of their many young stars could be moved for a star dman.
- AdamFrench

Too many top forwards will not be a great thing in a few years when they each cost $5M-$7M.
You're looking at like $25M+ for your top 4 forwards.

Problem is they need everything If I was Edmonton I'd just take Yakupov go into the season with their squad, if they suck again get Seth Jones (D) and figure which of their many young stars could be moved for a star dman.
- AdamFrench

Eberle for Subban

Problem is they need everything If I was Edmonton I'd just take Yakupov go into the season with their squad, if they suck again get Seth Jones (D) and figure which of their many young stars could be moved for a star dman.
- AdamFrench

But, but that makes sense.

Too many top forwards will not be a great thing in a few years when they each cost $5M-$7M.
You're looking at like $25M+ for your top 4 forwards.
- Apples

I'd love to have this TERRIBLE problem...

I'd love to have this TERRIBLE problem...
- AdamFrench

Speculation.
- mr.peanut

Their ceiling is higher, and they both can play Defensively already. While Yakupov is a scoring machine and is ready physically, he's not responsible defensively. And the other two are centers. So that's added value.

You know what I mean by ceiling right?

Means they have a bigger potential, it doesn't necessarily means they will reach it though. You have to take into account the Grigo is 6'3 and Galchenyuk is 6'1, while Yakupov is 5'10, once they are both matured out, it will be a huge difference.

it's an aquired taste, the more you get the more you learn to love it.
- Oilhab

No way, it's crap...just like every lime beer out there.

Beer doesn't need to be changed, stop adding stuff to beer. Anything in a bottle or can other then regular beer, stout, lager, pilsner is plain and simple a woman's drink or the drink of fist pumpers.

Too many top forwards will not be a great thing in a few years when they each cost $5M-$7M.
You're looking at like $25M+ for your top 4 forwards.
- Apples

They already have that problem with2 of their top 3's contracts expiring at the same time, and the 3rd within a year of the other 2.

They wouldn't even have to bring Yakupov up next year, they could let him play a year in the AHL, bring him up for a few games but not enough to waste a year of his ELC. And at the end of the next year or the year after trade one of them for a star Dman.
This year they could trade someone like Gagner for a 2nd tier dman.

They have many options, giving up on the clear no. 1 draft pick shouldn't be one of them.

- mr.peanut

I should clarify...unless it's a top-4 of Drury, Gomez, Naslund and Zherdev

Their ceiling is higher, and they both can play Defensively already. While Yakupov is a scoring machine and is ready physically, he's not responsible defensively. And the other two are centers. So that's added value.

You know what I mean by ceiling right?

Means they have a bigger potential, it doesn't necessarily means they will reach it though. You have to take into account the Grigo is 6'3 and Galchenyuk is 6'1, while Yakupov is 5'10, once they are both matured out, it will be a huge difference.
- QuebecPride

And potential is largely based on speculation.

Their ceiling is higher, and they both can play Defensively already. While Yakupov is a scoring machine and is ready physically, he's not responsible defensively. And the other two are centers. So that's added value.

You know what I mean by ceiling right?

Means they have a bigger potential, it doesn't necessarily means they will reach it though. You have to take into account the Grigo is 6'3 and Galchenyuk is 6'1, while Yakupov is 5'10, once they are both matured out, it will be a huge difference.
- QuebecPride

He is a really (frank)ing tall 5'10?

Their ceiling is higher, and they both can play Defensively already. While Yakupov is a scoring machine and is ready physically, he's not responsible defensively. And the other two are centers. So that's added value.

You know what I mean by ceiling right?

Means they have a bigger potential, it doesn't necessarily means they will reach it though. You have to take into account the Grigo is 6'3 and Galchenyuk is 6'1, while Yakupov is 5'10, once they are both matured out, it will be a huge difference.
- QuebecPride

Yes I know what's a 'ceiling' but that's what potential is, it's speculation on how well they'll be in the future.

I'd love to have this TERRIBLE problem...
- AdamFrench

You can't play your first and second lines 60 minutes a game.

You need money for other players.

No way, it's crap...just like every lime beer out there.

Beer doesn't need to be changed, stop adding stuff to beer. Anything in a bottle or can other then regular beer, stout, lager, pilsner is plain and simple a woman's drink or the drink of fist pumpers.
- Juice

True, but it doesn't mean a womens drink can't taste adequate