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dacks
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

May 26 @ 9:39 PM ET
I'd love for the Canucks to get Connolly, but he's not worth giving up Edler.
- Fosco


You guys should do the Lu for Vinny trade and have the Sabres help out with your salary cap...
Now that AV is pissing off Kesler by calling out his heart, what about both our 1sts and either McNabb/Pysyk

or

Our 1st (12th) our 2nd and Roy

We'll keep taking your problem children that "fake" injuries.
Brandon_Lee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 11.26.2007

May 26 @ 9:45 PM ET
You guys should do the Lu for Vinny trade and have the Sabres help out with your salary cap...
Now that AV is pissing off Kesler by calling out his heart, what about both our 1sts and either McNabb/Pysyk

or

Our 1st (12th) our 2nd and Roy

We'll keep taking your problem children that "fake" injuries.

- dacks


How about you just take AV instead?
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

May 26 @ 9:59 PM ET
Seriously nobody interested in the Schneider and Jensen or shcroeder or kassian for johansen and Johnson from Columbus trade


Our d looks great
Hammy bieksa
Edler Johnson
Ballard tanev

Our forwards look great
Sedin sedin burr
Booth kes kassian or Jensen
Higgins johanson Hansen
Prospect lappy malhotra

Lu
Lack
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 10:22 PM ET
You guys should do the Lu for Vinny trade and have the Sabres help out with your salary cap...
Now that AV is pissing off Kesler by calling out his heart, what about both our 1sts and either McNabb/Pysyk

or

Our 1st (12th) our 2nd and Roy

We'll keep taking your problem children that "fake" injuries.

- dacks



AV and Kes have made up.They were reportedly seen cruising Davie St wearing tank tops and leather chaps together.
Brandon_Lee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 11.26.2007

May 26 @ 10:27 PM ET
Seriously nobody interested in the Schneider and Jensen or shcroeder or kassian for johansen and Johnson from Columbus trade


Our d looks great
Hammy bieksa
Edler Johnson
Ballard tanev

Our forwards look great
Sedin sedin burr
Booth kes kassian or Jensen
Higgins johanson Hansen
Prospect lappy malhotra

Lu
Lack

- The_Kuze


Personally, if they decide to move Schneider, I'd rather try and get Connolly and the 10th overall from Tampa.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 26 @ 10:45 PM ET
Seriously nobody interested in the Schneider and Jensen or shcroeder or kassian for johansen and Johnson from Columbus trade


Our d looks great
Hammy bieksa
Edler Johnson
Ballard tanev

Our forwards look great
Sedin sedin burr
Booth kes kassian or Jensen
Higgins johanson Hansen
Prospect lappy malhotra

Lu
Lack

- The_Kuze


Not a big Johnson fan. CLB just got him, so it's unlikely they trade him, anyway.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 27 @ 12:13 AM ET
How about you just take AV instead?
- Brandon_Lee

Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

May 27 @ 12:16 AM ET
I want to love this VL for RL trade.... but no.

The contract is too large.
TheCouv
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.22.2012

May 27 @ 3:18 AM ET
Mike Gillis would never aquire a player with that kind of price tag when he has convinced the leaders of this team being the Sedins, To take hometown discounts.

If he all of a sudden brought in some underachieving chump who makes 7+ it would destroy the locker room

VL aint going to be flossin an orca. Conversation over.
simon17
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: United States, FL
Joined: 06.17.2007

May 27 @ 6:56 AM ET
if its anything it will be malone, ohlund and one of our 2nds for lu and a dman whether its ballard or something. hell id even consider giving connolly too if we got edler. u guys get the power forward in malone (whose contract is a million less than luongos and his actual salary goes down to like 3 mill or something this yr) plus a dman whod be do for a raise anyway. ohlund will retire there prob next season if he cant give it a go. works out for everyone.
- boltsfan48



I don't see us taking on Luongo and Vinny's contract at the same time. As you pointed out, Malone is actually making less than $3 million the next two years (I think 2.5 mill, then 2 mill), so I hope we hold onto him as well. I think Edler would be great, but I can't see the Canucks trading him.
Pea-Brain
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Dubastown
Joined: 09.28.2009

May 27 @ 8:21 AM ET
I don't see us taking on Luongo and Vinny's contract at the same time. As you pointed out, Malone is actually making less than $3 million the next two years (I think 2.5 mill, then 2 mill), so I hope we hold onto him as well. I think Edler would be great, but I can't see the Canucks trading him.
- simon17

this is the thing for TB, it's not the cap hit its the cash amount that matters because of the internal cap bein so much lower than the actual NHL cap. hence, Luongo's $10M doesn't work
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 27 @ 11:17 AM ET
I don't know about you guys, but I'm starting to suspect that the market for Lu isn't as high as most of us would like to it is. Apparently Tampa will only take him if we get Vinny back and Toronto will only do it if Komisarek is included. Doesn't sound like we're going to get much back so it wouldn't surprise me if both goalies are back next season or even Schneider gets traded(I hope not).


I wonder what it's going to be like here if Lu, Malhotra, Ballard and Raymond are all back along with AV.

- Nucker101


Then Tampa can sign Hasek and Leafs can continue with a 3 AHL goalie rotation. If the market isn't there this summer, I guarantee it will be there by the end of November.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 27 @ 11:18 AM ET
this is the thing for TB, it's not the cap hit its the cash amount that matters because of the internal cap bein so much lower than the actual NHL cap. hence, Luongo's $10M doesn't work
- Pea-Brain

Luongo doesn't make 10 million per year in actual dollars, educate yourself!
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 27 @ 11:40 AM ET
Luongo doesn't make 10 million per year in actual dollars, educate yourself!
- LeftCoaster


His name is Pea-Brain, what do you expect?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 27 @ 11:46 AM ET
Then Tampa can sign Hasek and Leafs can continue with a 3 AHL goalie rotation. If the market isn't there this summer, I guarantee it will be there by the end of November.
- Scooby_Doo

This

At the latest TDL
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 27 @ 11:47 AM ET
His name is Pea-Brain, what do you expect?
- 1970vintage

IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

May 27 @ 11:58 AM ET
this is the thing for TB, it's not the cap hit its the cash amount that matters because of the internal cap bein so much lower than the actual NHL cap. hence, Luongo's $10M doesn't work
- Pea-Brain


Lu has about 47 million left, Vinnie has 55 million left.

i'd say an 8 million dollar savings would be something Tampa would want.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

May 27 @ 12:00 PM ET
Wow Corrado's slap shot was clocked at 100 mph. He's gonna be a player.
Vagabond
Location: Quebec City, QC
Joined: 11.09.2011

May 27 @ 12:28 PM ET
Vinny is soft and overrated ...he belongs in Vancouver
- broadstreet11



...or Philly.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 27 @ 1:01 PM ET
Wow Corrado's slap shot was clocked at 100 mph. He's gonna be a player.
- Boinker


Jiri Slegr had a pretty hard shot too...
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

May 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
Jiri Slegr had a pretty hard shot too...
- 1970vintage


.....thanks...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 27 @ 1:25 PM ET
This

At the latest TDL

- VANTEL


Vokoun is a decent option for a team like Chicago or Detroit. There's also the possibly Calgary could move Kipper, who doesn't have a long-term contract and is in the same tier of goalies as Luongo, some would argue that he's even better considering the teams they play with. Minny will have to decide between Backstrom and Harding because both want to start, Harding is a UFA I believe. Or a team likes the Isles might want to go for a younger goalie for the future like a Bernier, Lindback, etc. There's only about 5 or 6 teams that really could use a goalie and some of them aren't even in high pressure situations where they have to win now so they'll be looking for a younger goalie(CBJ, NYI). There are some other options out there besides Lu and I know that he's more proven than most of the names I mentioned, but none of those guys have such long-term contracts. And in a long-term contract a lot can go wrong for a GM/Owner, a decline in play, constant injuries, etc.
Pea-Brain
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Dubastown
Joined: 09.28.2009

May 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
Lu has about 47 million left, Vinnie has 55 million left.

i'd say an 8 million dollar savings would be something Tampa would want.

- IanEsplen

oh for sure, no one anywhere has said they wouldn't JUMP at this trade. That's why it's so stupid to be proposed by Vancouverites. That said, no sane GM in the league would take on the Vinny contract so they'd be stuck with both.

Again, I've already said I see nothing wrong with Luongo's cap hit, its not a bad deal at all since we all know he will retire well before he is an anchor.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
Vokoun is a decent option for a team like Chicago or Detroit. There's also the possibly Calgary could move Kipper, who doesn't have a long-term contract and is in the same tier of goalies as Luongo, some would argue that he's even better considering the teams they play with. Minny will have to decide between Backstrom and Harding because both want to start, Harding is a UFA I believe. Or a team likes the Isles might want to go for a younger goalie for the future like a Bernier, Lindback, etc. There's only about 5 or 6 teams that really could use a goalie and some of them aren't even in high pressure situations where they have to win now so they'll be looking for a younger goalie(CBJ, NYI). There are some other options out there besides Lu and I know that he's more proven than most of the names I mentioned, but none of those guys have such long-term contracts. And in a long-term contract a lot can go wrong for a GM/Owner, a decline in play, constant injuries, etc.
- Nucker101

Everything you said is true. All those teams will make moves before the season starts and then their will be two or three teams around TDL fighting to make the playoffs like the Leafs were.Then Lu basically has 1 mil left on this year and 5 more years at 5.3 ,That is when I think we get the best deal.
Pea-Brain
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Dubastown
Joined: 09.28.2009

May 27 @ 1:51 PM ET
Vokoun is a decent option for a team like Chicago or Detroit. There's also the possibly Calgary could move Kipper, who doesn't have a long-term contract and is in the same tier of goalies as Luongo, some would argue that he's even better considering the teams they play with. Minny will have to decide between Backstrom and Harding because both want to start, Harding is a UFA I believe. Or a team likes the Isles might want to go for a younger goalie for the future like a Bernier, Lindback, etc. There's only about 5 or 6 teams that really could use a goalie and some of them aren't even in high pressure situations where they have to win now so they'll be looking for a younger goalie(CBJ, NYI). There are some other options out there besides Lu and I know that he's more proven than most of the names I mentioned, but none of those guys have such long-term contracts. And in a long-term contract a lot can go wrong for a GM/Owner, a decline in play, constant injuries, etc.
- Nucker101

Not to mention whatever degree of NTC Lu has. CBJ would love him I'm sure but there's no way he waives to go from penthouse to outhouse.

Teams I'm guessing that would both be interesting to him and interested in him:
TBL
FLA
CHI
DET but only if they are cray enough to not believe in Howard
NJD if Fatty retires
TOR
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