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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 24 @ 3:40 PM ET
TO EDM:

#2 overall (Ryan Murray)
Robin Lehner
#15 overall


To Columbus:

#1 overall(Nail Yakupov)
Foligno
Zibanejad

To Ott:

Nash
Methot

- Cup 06

From an Edmonton standpoint I don't hate it. Don't love it, but don't hate it.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 3:40 PM ET
I guess the bruins are in on nash as well.... what could they offer??
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 24 @ 3:41 PM ET
TO EDM:

#2 overall (Ryan Murray)
Robin Lehner
#15 overall


To Columbus:

#1 overall(Nail Yakupov)
Foligno
Zibanejad

To Ott:

Nash
Methot

- Cup 06


Highly doubt OTT would put all their goaltending reliabilty on Anderson and Bishop for the future. It's more like Bishop gets moved.
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

May 24 @ 3:41 PM ET
TO EDM:

#2 overall (Ryan Murray)
Robin Lehner
#15 overall


To Columbus:

#1 overall(Nail Yakupov)
Foligno
Zibanejad

To Ott:

Nash
Methot

- Cup 06


Columbus might as well move to Quebec City the day after the draft if that's all they'd get for Nash.
Cup 06
Ottawa Senators
Location: Tkachuk Town, ON
Joined: 03.01.2006

May 24 @ 3:47 PM ET
Columbus might as well move to Quebec City the day after the draft if that's all they'd get for Nash.
- S Kaspar Rollins



What they would be getting for Nash/Methot is

Foligno
Zibanejad
Lehner
#15 overall

pretty good package, they move two pieces to move up in the draft or they stand pat.

Nash had 59 points last year and has a huge cap hit/contract. His value isnt as high as some may think. It is a big deal to move out that much salary.
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

May 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
From an Edmonton standpoint I don't hate it. Don't love it, but don't hate it.
- Lahey


That looks pretty solid for me, you don't give up anything other than trading 1 spot down and get a mid-1st rounder.

It's worth noting that nobody has traded down from the #1 since 2003, when Pittsburgh traded up from #3 to get Fleury (and Florida then took Horton, after Carolina took Staal at no. 2 - kind of a weird move all around in retrospect). In that trade, Pittsburgh traded the no. 3 and a 2nd for the no. 1 and a 3rd - fairly typical trade-up in other words. Granted, this was 9 years ago, but I still think it's possible people are highly overrating the value of the no. 1 in this context.
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

May 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
What they would be getting for Nash/Methot is

Foligno
Zibanejad
Lehner
#15 overall

pretty good package, they move two pieces to move up in the draft or they stand pat.

Nash had 59 points last year and has a huge cap hit/contract. His value isnt as high as some may think. It is a big deal to move out that much salary.

- Cup 06


In your previous post you had Lehner going to Edmonton.

Anyway, I agree with you on Nash being overrated and Columbus likely not getting what they want (for other reasons as well - you're taking the leap of faith that Nash would agree to go to Ottawa). However, I still think Columbus will get slightly more than that deal, and I doubt it would be necessary to merge Nash into a trade involving a trade up to #1.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
I guess the bruins are in on nash as well.... what could they offer??
- Deadmau55


You ask for it...it's the world of overpayment...Hamilton(convo starts there, otherwise CBJ hangs up), Thomas (for goaltending help if they can't land anyone else), Marchand, & 1st round pick.
TheRussian
San Jose Sharks
Location: Абакан
Joined: 03.24.2011

May 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
I guess the bruins are in on nash as well.... what could they offer??
- Deadmau55

lucic,thomas,boychuk(not all,but one of?)
TheRussian
San Jose Sharks
Location: Абакан
Joined: 03.24.2011

May 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
i would put money on nash going to boston,san jose or the rangers
Wolfpack12
Joined: 04.27.2012

May 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
But this rumor came last night

20 hours ago RUMOR:Oilers Expected to swap picks with CBJ...
http://nhlbeat.blogspot.c...d-to-swap-picks-with.html

and Gene Principe of Sportsnet had it before that..

https://twitter.com/GeneP...status/205394877993848832

Not attacking you Ek, just saying. Credit where its due

Please DONT ban me mods
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

May 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
You ask for it...it's the world of overpayment...Hamilton(convo starts there, otherwise CBJ hangs up), Thomas (for goaltending help if they can't land anyone else), Marchand, & 1st round pick.
- deks1


Only if an unexpected bidding war arises between teams that KNOW Nash will agree to go (remember, LA pulled out and settled for Carter in part because they never were sure if LA was actually on his list). I've said this ever since Columbus idiotically made it public that he asked out, I think it's likely it ends like the Heatley saga. (Mind you, that worked out OK in the end for Ottawa, but it sure wasn't on purpose.)
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
lucic,thomas,boychuk(not all,but one of?)
- TheRussian



I was thinking dougie hamiltion, and maybe tim thomas. Or maybe rask?
TheRussian
San Jose Sharks
Location: Абакан
Joined: 03.24.2011

May 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
i wonder if the devils win the cup,does parise stay with them,or would he still leave?i think no matter what,if he wants to stay he may have to take a significant paycut
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
Only if an unexpected bidding war arises between teams that KNOW Nash will agree to go (remember, LA pulled out and settled for Carter in part because they never were sure if LA was actually on his list). I've said this ever since Columbus idiotically made it public that he asked out, I think it's likely it ends like the Heatley saga. (Mind you, that worked out OK in the end for Ottawa, but it sure wasn't on purpose.)
- S Kaspar Rollins


Cbj wanted two top six players and a prospect. thats what I heard.
TheRussian
San Jose Sharks
Location: Абакан
Joined: 03.24.2011

May 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
I was thinking dougie hamiltion, and maybe tim thomas. Or maybe rask?
- Deadmau55

i think timmy would be the one because he isnt signed and rask has proven to be a solid NHL goalie and IMO is ready to be a starter.if boston,i wouldnt be surprised to see a deal of thomas,hamilton,1st and possible prospect or another draft pick thrown in the mix
Cup 06
Ottawa Senators
Location: Tkachuk Town, ON
Joined: 03.01.2006

May 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
In your previous post you had Lehner going to Edmonton.

Anyway, I agree with you on Nash being overrated and Columbus likely not getting what they want (for other reasons as well - you're taking the leap of faith that Nash would agree to go to Ottawa). However, I still think Columbus will get slightly more than that deal, and I doubt it would be necessary to merge Nash into a trade involving a trade up to #1.

- S Kaspar Rollins



Basically the first step of a three team trade. He would end up in Edmonton as part of a swap of picks.

I think a young and upcoming team and getting the chance to play with Spezza and Karlsson on the powerplay would be enticing.
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

May 24 @ 3:59 PM ET
Cbj wanted two top six players and a prospect. thats what I heard.
- Deadmau55


IIRC, the Rangers were the team closest to getting him, but they refused to put McDonagh, Del Zotto and/or Kreider in the deal so it died. Can't remember which player specifically was the dealbreaker, I think it was Kreider though.
TheRussian
San Jose Sharks
Location: Абакан
Joined: 03.24.2011

May 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
Cbj wanted two top six players and a prospect. thats what I heard.
- Deadmau55

they over priced them selves
from the rangers they wanted(in one big deal)
dubinsky,kreider,1st,erixon and stepan

from san jose(so i heard) they wanted
clowe,couture,1st,1st
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
i would put money on nash going to boston,san jose or the rangers
- TheRussian



Not the sharks
TheRussian
San Jose Sharks
Location: Абакан
Joined: 03.24.2011

May 24 @ 4:01 PM ET
IIRC, the Rangers were the team closest to getting him, but they refused to put McDonagh, Del Zotto and/or Kreider in the deal so it died. Can't remember which player specifically was the dealbreaker, I think it was Kreider though.
- S Kaspar Rollins

kreider and somewhat stepan
TheRussian
San Jose Sharks
Location: Абакан
Joined: 03.24.2011

May 24 @ 4:01 PM ET
Not the sharks

- Deadmau55

why not?they were in the nash sweepstakes until the final minutes
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 24 @ 4:01 PM ET
IIRC, the Rangers were the team closest to getting him, but they refused to put McDonagh, Del Zotto and/or Kreider in the deal so it died. Can't remember which player specifically was the dealbreaker, I think it was Kreider though.
- S Kaspar Rollins


It was Kreider and I don't think NYR regret passing on it looking at it today.
TheRussian
San Jose Sharks
Location: Абакан
Joined: 03.24.2011

May 24 @ 4:02 PM ET
It was Kreider and I don't think NYR regret passing on it looking at it today.
- deks1

the kids a stud.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 4:02 PM ET
IIRC, the Rangers were the team closest to getting him, but they refused to put McDonagh, Del Zotto and/or Kreider in the deal so it died. Can't remember which player specifically was the dealbreaker, I think it was Kreider though.
- S Kaspar Rollins


But now they know he himself asked to leave so his value went down. Funny how that works out. poor cbus. always getting the poop end of the stick.
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