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deanofnucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.08.2008

May 24 @ 2:59 PM ET
Eklund: Rumors: Edmonton/Columbus Talking? Nash? Can Suter Be Bought? Luongo...
- Eklund


On Luongo...

It looks now as if the Lightning are only willing to go after Luongo if Vancouver would be willing to take the Lecavalier contract...which the Canucks have zero interest in as of my discussions with them this morning...


who did you speak with EK? I listen to the local sports chat closely and follow the in touch reporters tweets and blogs as closely as anyone and your name never comes up... Ironically - it is true the Canucks have no interest in LeCavalier... but that is common sense not from some inside source. Vinny's contract is another millstone the Canucks cannot afford a dud contract like the lifer owned by VL

Whoever believes the Canucks will be on bended knee sucking up to a suitor for Lou ... is nuts. There are a few teams dying to resolve shaky goal tending OR replace much older keepers --- NJ - CLB - TB - TOR - BOS - CHI. So don't think this is a fire sale as the Canucks would rather keep the keeper than give him away for the need of unloading the contract.
Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 24 @ 2:59 PM ET
Eck anything new on that surprise goalie that either wants to be dealt or wil be dealt?
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

May 24 @ 3:00 PM ET
Maybe we see a 3-way deal.

Tampa Bay gets:

Roberto Luongo
Tyler Bozak

Toronto gets:

Vincent Lecavalier
Mason Raymond

Vancouver gets:

James Reimer
Ryan Malone

I'm not sure how the trade would work but it would kind of fit that Lecavalier lands in Toronto when they need a center, Canucks get Malone and another young goalie and Tampa Bay gets a younger center and a goaltender.

Well that's my piece, feel free to rip me apart

- martok2309

Good call Donkey now who plays net for Toronto?
Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 24 @ 3:01 PM ET
Whoever believes the Canucks will be on bended knee sucking up to a suitor for Lou ... is nuts. There is a few teams dying to resolve shaky goal tending and replace much older keeprs --- NJ - CLB - TB - TOR - BOS - CHI. So don't think this is a fire sale as the Canucks would rather keep the keeper than give him away for the need of unloading the contract.
- deanofnucks



Don't think Boston is hurting for a goalie. Rask is fine
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 24 @ 3:04 PM ET
So I've seen some posts about johansen and Moore to the oiler for the 1st overall and they can then grab the Sarnia duo. How about this or fun

To edm: 2013 1st, johansen, Moore

To cbj: 2012 1st and gagner.

At the end of the day Id be surprised if the oilers dont take Yakupov.
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

May 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
Good call Donkey now who plays net for Toronto?
- tmlfan17


First, what word were you typing that chanced to donkey? Doesn't sound like what you mean to say?

Second, Scrivens looks NHL ready. Then again, Lecavalier isn't going to be able to be traded. Just can't trade that contract.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
Don't think Boston is hurting for a goalie. Rask is fine
- Popcorn Kid


If anything BOS will want to trade off Thomas and look to trade or sign a top 6 forward.

So I've seen some posts about johansen and Moore to the oiler for the 1st overall and they can then grab the Sarnia duo. How about this or fun

To edm: 2013 1st, johansen, Moore

To cbj: 2012 1st and gagner.

At the end of the day Id be surprised if the oilers dont take Yakupov.

- ystoil


Alot of EDM fans be crossing fingers hope CBJ plummets so then EDM gets McKinnon or Jones.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 24 @ 3:07 PM ET
If Edmonton has to draft a d-man and CBJ has to draft a forward why would they have to flip picks? The logic behind this rumour makes absolutely no sense.
- dawgzhouse


Your missing the point.
Edm holds the cards.
If cbj really wants yakupov, theyre gonna have to pay.

ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 24 @ 3:08 PM ET
NYR: Nash
CBJ: Dubinsky, Erixon, McDonagh or Del Zotto, 1st round pick (not 100% sure would NYR still trade McDonagh after his performance during the playoffs, but regardless a team is gonna have to pay out big time for Nash)

CBJ: 1st round pick...maybe 1st round+
EDM: Moore, Johansen, Nikitin

It's overpayment from CBJ, but whoever snags Nash is overpayment for them, I would suggest EDM consider giving something extra to CBJ to make the deal happen.

Whoever gets Nash is happy as they know what they got and gave up. CBJ gets Yakupov, Galchenyk, Dubinsky, Erixon (he won't come to EDM since he didn't want to be in CGY), McDonagh or Del Zotto, 1st round pick to give up Nash, Johansen, Moore, and Nikitin? Tough tough scenario, but got to pay to play.

- deks1



If NYR send Dubinsky, Erixon, and MDZ for Nash that would mean NY would have $51.5M tied up in 14 players next season. Nash is hefty cap hit to be taking on.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 24 @ 3:10 PM ET
who did you speak with EK? I listen to the local sports chat closely and follow the in touch reporters tweets and blogs as closely as anyone and your name never comes up... Ironically - it is true the Canucks have no interest in LeCavalier... but that is common sense not from some inside source. Vinny's contract is another millstone the Canucks cannot afford a dud contract like the lifer owned by VL
Whoever believes the Canucks will be on bended knee sucking up to a suitor for Lou ... is nuts. There are a few teams dying to resolve shaky goal tending OR replace much older keepers --- NJ - CLB - TB - TOR - BOS - CHI. So don't think this is a fire sale as the Canucks would rather keep the keeper than give him away for the need of unloading the contract.

- deanofnucks


K. Keep him then.
Cause no ones gonna pay alot for that abortion contract.
Unless of course u take a bad one back.
How about..
Vinny for lu??

U want a big return??
Deal schneider.
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

May 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
"Over the last week or so, even back to the just after that evil pingpong ball from Edmonton (perhaps oiling the ping pong balls in Edmonton helps)"

Oh Eklund, You are delight.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 24 @ 3:13 PM ET
If NYR send Dubinsky, Erixon, and MDZ for Nash that would mean NY would have $51.5M tied up in 14 players next season. Nash is hefty cap hit to be taking on.
- ILoveLamp


Oh for sure CBJ has to take salary back from NYR. CBJ will has to resign RFA Del Zotto. After Del Zotto resigns in CBJ per say, CBJ be taking more salary back combined if they play Dubinsky, Erixon, and resigned Del Zotto. 1st round pick wouldn't make an impact anytime soon for CBJ.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 24 @ 3:16 PM ET
The guy that shakes it for Kevin Lowe and Tambo talked to Howson the other day and then today tweeted that he doesn't see why Howson would trade up.
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

May 24 @ 3:16 PM ET
So I've seen some posts about johansen and Moore to the oiler for the 1st overall and they can then grab the Sarnia duo. How about this or fun

To edm: 2013 1st, johansen, Moore

To cbj: 2012 1st and gagner.

At the end of the day Id be surprised if the oilers dont take Yakupov.

- ystoil


That seems an awful lot to trade up or down 1 spot. The assumption if the Oilers trade down is that they are not taking Yakupov, and if the Jackets know they don't want to do this then what is the point?

There is very little precedent for significant players being included in swaps like this, usually it just involves giving up another 2 or 3.
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

May 24 @ 3:18 PM ET
If NYR send Dubinsky, Erixon, and MDZ for Nash that would mean NY would have $51.5M tied up in 14 players next season. Nash is hefty cap hit to be taking on.
- ILoveLamp


That's not a whole lot when you consider that the cap is supposedly going up to $69M this offseason. (Spare me your lockout speculation, it's just that.)
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 24 @ 3:19 PM ET



Alot of EDM fans be crossing fingers hope CBJ plummets so then EDM gets McKinnon or Jones.

- deks1


I really dont want any part of more future draft deals.
This should be our last 'rebuild' draft. The kids will be in place.
Its time to go via trade and fa to fill our weaknesses.
I want immediate help or a bluechip prospect now if we deal with cbj.

Id even take a gamble and consider dealing next years first if the price was right.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 24 @ 3:19 PM ET
yes. John is outstanding. we all have different sources. My opinion comes from very close to the situation as it sits now. That may change. Anything is possible.
- Eklund



Thanks, and I never said Suter himself wants to play in Chicago (as the poster implied). I don't know that.

What I said was:

- he grew up as a Hawk fan (verified),
- some members of his family would very much like to see him in Chicago (verified)
- and the Hawks have him #1 on their list going in to UFA (numerous Chicago sources)

There is also an undeniable draw of playing with some very good players. Almost assured due to their ages and contract status) for the next 4-5 years minimum.

I also believe Nashville has a shot at keeping him based on what I've heard.

I had not heard the big market/small market angle before and there could be something to that.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 24 @ 3:22 PM ET
I really dont want any part of more future draft deals.
This should be our last 'rebuild' draft. The kids will be in place.
Its time to go via trade and fa to fill our weaknesses.
I want immediate help or a bluechip prospect now if we deal with cbj.

Id even take a gamble and consider dealing next years first if the price was right.

- hugefemale dog77


EDM can take a certain amount of risk this year, still let some of the currents grow and flourish, next year, go pedal to the metal.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 24 @ 3:23 PM ET
who did you speak with EK? I listen to the local sports chat closely and follow the in touch reporters tweets and blogs as closely as anyone and your name never comes up... Ironically - it is true the Canucks have no interest in LeCavalier... but that is common sense not from some inside source. Vinny's contract is another millstone the Canucks cannot afford a dud contract like the lifer owned by VL

Whoever believes the Canucks will be on bended knee sucking up to a suitor for Lou ... is nuts. There are a few teams dying to resolve shaky goal tending OR replace much older keepers --- NJ - CLB - TB - TOR - BOS - CHI. So don't think this is a fire sale as the Canucks would rather keep the keeper than give him away for the need of unloading the contract.

- deanofnucks


CLB, TB and TOR are possibilities. In Boston, see: Rask, T.

Chicago will never give a bag of pucks for Luongo and his contract.

His contract, whether you like it or not, is a huge pill for any team to swallow under the cap. He is a very good goalie. But the Nucks screwed the pooch on that. They might get a nice return from Columbus, Tor or the Devils.

I don't think they will get Rick Nash.

Problem is, he makes $5 million a year and relatively speaking, he's probably not worth it in terms of a safe bet.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 24 @ 3:24 PM ET
Thanks, and I never said Suter himself wants to play in Chicago (as the poster implied). I don't know that.

What I said was:

- he grew up as a Hawk fan (verified),
- some members of his family would very much like to see him in Chicago (verified)
- and the Hawks have him #1 on their list going in to UFA (numerous Chicago sources)

There is also an undeniable draw of playing with some very good players. Almost assured due to their ages and contract status) for the next 4-5 years minimum.

I also believe Nashville has a shot at keeping him based on what I've heard.

I had not heard the big market/small market angle before and there could be something to that.

- John Jaeckel

So really what you are telling us is that someone put two and two together because it fits on the map and because CHI would be interested in a top d-man, that this would make sense?
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 24 @ 3:24 PM ET
Don't think Boston is hurting for a goalie. Rask is fine
- Popcorn Kid


Exactly
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

May 24 @ 3:27 PM ET
NYR: Nash
CBJ: Dubinsky, Erixon, McDonagh or Del Zotto, 1st round pick (not 100% sure would NYR still trade McDonagh after his performance during the playoffs, but regardless a team is gonna have to pay out big time for Nash)

CBJ: 1st round pick...maybe 1st round+
EDM: Moore, Johansen, Nikitin

It's overpayment from CBJ, but whoever snags Nash is overpayment for them, I would suggest EDM consider giving something extra to CBJ to make the deal happen.

Whoever gets Nash is happy as they know what they got and gave up. CBJ gets Yakupov, Galchenyk, Dubinsky, Erixon (he won't come to EDM since he didn't want to be in CGY), McDonagh or Del Zotto, 1st round pick to give up Nash, Johansen, Moore, and Nikitin? Tough tough scenario, but got to pay to play.

- deks1


He has no control over being traded, and from what I've heard and read, it's not really clear why he refused to sign in Calgary. The first reports said he was pissed off he would never get playing time in the NHL (ended up being a bad bet for him if true, since he ended up in the AHL anyway) but it's still unclear what exactly happened. I'm not sure it had all that much to do with the attractiveness of Calgary as a location, if that's what you're implying.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 24 @ 3:30 PM ET
So really what you are telling us is that someone put two and two together because it fits on the map and because CHI would be interested in a top d-man, that this would make sense?
- Lahey


One more time, since I like you so much.

- family would like to see him in Chicago
- chance to be on a (proven) very good (and still young) team
- his agent represents his likely partner in Chicago
- he grew up a Hawk fan
- also went to high school about 90 miles from Chicago with tons of Chicago kids
Chicago is th eclosest NHL city to his hometown and I'm told geography (proximity to Madison specifically) weighs into his choice
- and, yeah, the Hawks want him


Does that put his name on a contract? No. If he has an aversion to big markets as Ek says, that would be a huge issue.

But you seem to ignore a lot of reasons the Hawks could be players for him. Whatever, your choice.

I think it is highly dubious to believe he and his agent—who represents Nick Leddy— would not consider an offer from what is essentially his hometown team. But that's just me.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 24 @ 3:37 PM ET
One more time, since I like you so much.

- family would like to see him in Chicago
- chance to be on a (proven) very good (and still young) team
- his agent represents his likely partner in Chicago
- he grew up a Hawk fan
- also went to high school about 90 miles from Chicago with tons of Chicago kids
Chicago is th eclosest NHL city to his hometown and I'm told geography (proximity to Madison specifically) weighs into his choice
- and, yeah, the Hawks want him


Does that put his name on a contract? No. If he has an aversion to big markets as Ek says, that would be a huge issue.

But you seem to ignore a lot of reasons the Hawks could be players for him. Whatever, your choice.

I think it is highly dubious to believe he and his agent—who represents Nick Leddy— would not consider an offer from what is essentially his hometown team. But that's just me.

- John Jaeckel

It doesn't put his name on a contract and doesn't even really make it rumor worthy. you know how many NHLers were born and raised in Edmonton let alone 90 miles away? You know how many still have family here? Should Richard Cloutier start making a blog on everyone and call it a rumor?
Cup 06
Ottawa Senators
Location: Tkachuk Town, ON
Joined: 03.01.2006

May 24 @ 3:37 PM ET
TO EDM:

#2 overall (Ryan Murray)
Robin Lehner
#15 overall


To Columbus:

#1 overall(Nail Yakupov)
Foligno
Zibanejad

To Ott:

Nash
Methot

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