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stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

May 24 @ 2:36 PM ET
for realsies.
- Eklund

Come on.
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

May 24 @ 2:39 PM ET
So deplete the d-corps and trade away a NA centre with huge upside for 2 unproven talents that just happen to be Russian (remember CBJ's history with Russians)?

This seems foolish.

- dawgzhouse


If it's to get the 1st pick and keep the 2nd too, they're going to have to pay out the ass. Galchenyuk is viewed by some to be on par with Yakupov, so to get 2 guys like that (think drafting the Sedin's but with work ethic and passion). If it's just a trade to get Yakupov however then yeah, those players aren't going anywhere.
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 24 @ 2:39 PM ET
Come on.
- stormeyAlterEgo


Ok...to be totally upfront I did not speak with the ACTUAL landmass on which the beautiful city we call Vancouver now sits. It wasn't like a spirit animal guide/shamanstic thing. I merely talked to a source who works for the Hockey team there. I see how that confused you now.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

May 24 @ 2:40 PM ET
Nfph the Flyers NEEDED D last draft, any look what happened. They took the best available, which made many flyer fans not thrilled, and look what happened. We got a stud in Couts. Gotta take the best vailable.
- FLYERSROCK!

I'd suggest that while there was overlap in the needs there, there are a few differences here that trump.

First, the Flyers don't seem to approach the draft in the same way the Oil do. I get the sense that acquiring defense outside the draft seems like more of a viable option for Holmgren than it is for Tambo.

Second, I think the need in this case is a lot clearer for Edmonton than it was for Philly, especially considering the moves they had made at the Center position prior to the draft.

Third, when you're picking further down the draft BPA is probably a more solid option since it adds more doubt to the outcome of that pick than where you are a #1/#2. Murray and Yak are both probably going to be fine NHLers.
Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

May 24 @ 2:40 PM ET
I'd love to see Burke pull off a quick one.

Offer up Schenn or Franson and the 5th to Edmonton for the 1st.
Edmonton drafts one of Reinhert, Murray, Dumba or OReilly

Then flip the 1st overall to Columbus with Mac, Connolly and a mid level prospect for the second overall and Nash.

Not sure of the overall logistics of the second trade with Columbus, but it would involve getting Nash and the 2nd overall pick, for the 1st overall pick and some players (not named Jake Gardiner)

2nd overall pick, Galchenyuk or Grigs.

lineup

Nash- ? - Kessel
Lupul - Grabo - Kuli
Frattin - Bozak - Kadri
Crabb - Steckel - Brown

Phanuef - Liles
Gardiner - Franson
Gunnar - Holzer

- ILoveLamp



Wait, not only would CLB be sending their 2nd overall and Nash, they'd only get the 1st overall, a few overpaid plugs and a mid-prospect? How does that in any way sound enticing to them?
Crispo98
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mount Albert, ON
Joined: 08.19.2010

May 24 @ 2:40 PM ET
for realsies.
- Eklund

Is that an actual word ?

Hey Ek,

What if Toronto offered their # 5 pick, Schenn, and Kulemin for Edmonton's #1 pick ?
CBJ18
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 11.24.2010

May 24 @ 2:41 PM ET
Wait, not only would CLB be sending their 2nd overall and Nash, they'd only get the 1st overall, a few overpaid plugs and a mid-prospect? How does that in any way sound enticing to them?
- Conquest


It doesn't.
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 24 @ 2:42 PM ET
Is that an actual word ?

Hey Ek,

What if Toronto offered their # 5 pick, Schenn, and Kulemin for Edmonton's #1 pick ?

- Crispo98


#1. My daughter, who turns ten on Friday, uses it.
#2. That is a VERY interesting offer which I believe Edmonton would have to consider.
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 24 @ 2:43 PM ET
When you have an asset...you need to treat it as such. You owe it to yourself.
- Eklund

Given the run the Kings are on, do you see them going after a big FA or instead giving their players the raises they need and being somewhat quiet this year.

I just don't think we will have the cap space needed to sign Quick, Stoll, Penner, etc. (not all of them necessarily, but just an example) if we are paying 6-7 mil + for one player.

Unrelated topic I know.
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

May 24 @ 2:43 PM ET
I'd love to see Burke pull off a quick one.

Offer up Schenn or Franson and the 5th to Edmonton for the 1st.
Edmonton drafts one of Reinhert, Murray, Dumba or OReilly

Then flip the 1st overall to Columbus with Mac, Connolly and a mid level prospect for the second overall and Nash.

Not sure of the overall logistics of the second trade with Columbus, but it would involve getting Nash and the 2nd overall pick, for the 1st overall pick and some players (not named Jake Gardiner)

2nd overall pick, Galchenyuk or Grigs.

lineup

Nash- ? - Kessel
Lupul - Grabo - Kuli
Frattin - Bozak - Kadri
Crabb - Steckel - Brown

Phanuef - Liles
Gardiner - Franson
Gunnar - Holzer

- ILoveLamp


I like where you're going, despite it being highly unlikely. Burke would have to be rid of a lot of contracts to fit Nash into the cap. But a future of Nash & Galchenyuk would be an astronomical rise in TO's power ranking.

Personally if Galy's gone by the 5th pick I think you see the Leafs trade the pick for Nash in some way.
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 24 @ 2:45 PM ET
Given the run the Kings are on, do you see them going after a big FA or instead giving their players the raises they need and being somewhat quiet this year.

I just don't think we will have the cap space needed to sign QUick, etc. if we are paying 6-7 mil + for one player.

- StayTunedMTC


I can't write about yet. but I do think the Kings are going to be the favorite for one of the TOP Ufa's...he wants to play there I have been hearing...for about a year now.
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

May 24 @ 2:45 PM ET
Ok...to be totally upfront I did not speak with the ACTUAL landmass on which the beautiful city we call Vancouver now sits. It wasn't like a spirit animal guide/shamanstic thing. I merely talked to a source who works for the Hockey team there. I see how that confused you now.
- Eklund


Now I'm disappointed. I was hoping for some sort of spiritual journey to go with this story.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 24 @ 2:45 PM ET
Hey Ek.

Any chance Thornton gets moved out of San Jose?
Crispo98
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mount Albert, ON
Joined: 08.19.2010

May 24 @ 2:46 PM ET
#1. My daughter, who turns ten on Friday, uses it.
#2. That is a VERY interesting offer which I believe Edmonton would have to consider.

- Eklund

I've got a ten year old too and she uses that word and a bunch of others I haven't heard, let alone all of the Acronym's that she uses.
I'm thinking Edmonton might just take that deal and pick up another defender to pair up with Sshenn.

Your awfully chatty today EK, is everything okay ? Joking
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

May 24 @ 2:46 PM ET
Maybe we see a 3-way deal.

Tampa Bay gets:

Roberto Luongo
Tyler Bozak

Toronto gets:

Vincent Lecavalier
Mason Raymond

Vancouver gets:

James Reimer
Ryan Malone

I'm not sure how the trade would work but it would kind of fit that Lecavalier lands in Toronto when they need a center, Canucks get Malone and another young goalie and Tampa Bay gets a younger center and a goaltender.

Well that's my piece, feel free to rip me apart

- martok2309



Great except Vancouver does not want a young probably nothing but a back up goaltender when they have a youthful back up in Lack waiting in the wings. Make that a Mathew Lombardi or Armstrong and you may have a deal.
Timeforsoup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Please don't mock me merciless, ON
Joined: 10.15.2011

May 24 @ 2:47 PM ET
I'd love to see Burke pull off a quick one.

Offer up Schenn or Franson and the 5th to Edmonton for the 1st.
Edmonton drafts one of Reinhert, Murray, Dumba or OReilly

Then flip the 1st overall to Columbus with Mac, Connolly and a mid level prospect for the second overall and Nash.

Not sure of the overall logistics of the second trade with Columbus, but it would involve getting Nash and the 2nd overall pick, for the 1st overall pick and some players (not named Jake Gardiner)

2nd overall pick, Galchenyuk or Grigs.

lineup

Nash- ? - Kessel
Lupul - Grabo - Kuli
Frattin - Bozak - Kadri
Crabb - Steckel - Brown

Phanuef - Liles
Gardiner - Franson
Gunnar - Holzer

- ILoveLamp


So the difference between the 5th overall and the 1st overall selection is Cody Franson OR Luke Schenn? Not even both? Really?
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 24 @ 2:48 PM ET
Wait, not only would CLB be sending their 2nd overall and Nash, they'd only get the 1st overall, a few overpaid plugs and a mid-prospect? How does that in any way sound enticing to them?
- Conquest


Pretty much why I added the line that I don't know the logistics of the second trade with CBJ.

I'd assume Mac would have some value as a 20 goal scorer on the second line. Some salary would have to be returned in the form of Army, Connolly, or Lombardi, so that the cap works in Toronto, so you can take your pick of one of the three. As CBJ is low on centres, that's why I said Connolly.

then after that, it's pretty much anyone's guess. If Schenn goes in the EDM trade, you can offer Franson, Gunnar, Blacker, Holzer, or Percy as a D to CBJ.

Add in a prospect (Colborne, D'Amigo, etc)

The number one overall pick has more value than the number 2 overall pick, and Toronto still needs to draft highly. As Yakupov is considered far and away the top pick, CBJ would covet that pick.

On top of that, there's obviously hostility between Nash and Howson, so Nash has to move but has a NMC in his contract giving Nash power.

So CBJ gets the number one overall pick (potential franchise player in Yakupov), a 20+ goal scorer, a young D to help rebuild, and a prospect

for Nash (disgruntled player that was thrown under the bus by management)
and second overall. seems fair to me
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

May 24 @ 2:49 PM ET
Great except Vancouver does not want a young probably nothing but a back up goaltender when they have a youthful back up in Lack waiting in the wings. Make that a Mathew Lombardi or Armstrong and you may have a deal.
- SMP8719


There are some concerns with Lack and his ability to play an NHL game. I'm hoping someone will tweak that trade but then again I realize how untradeable Lecavalier is.
Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

May 24 @ 2:50 PM ET
Great except Vancouver does not want a young probably nothing but a back up goaltender when they have a youthful back up in Lack waiting in the wings. Make that a Mathew Lombardi or Armstrong and you may have a deal.
- SMP8719


You can have lombo not to mention, Toronto wouldn't have any goalies.. we'd actually be giving reimer away, not getting luongo and if the monster walks, all we'd have is scrivens
FredoXV
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: OH
Joined: 06.23.2010

May 24 @ 2:53 PM ET
problem is Suter is not interested in big markets. now you can argue Detroit is a big market, but it is easier to disappear in Detroit. The history could add pressure to him in Chicago...which apparently he wants nothing of...just what I am hearing.
- Eklund



Something doesn't seem to jive with wanting the premeir money but shying away from the spotlight. If this is the case, I'm not so sure he's the type of player that I'd want on my team, making $7M +
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 24 @ 2:53 PM ET
Maybe we see a 3-way deal.

Tampa Bay gets:

Roberto Luongo
Tyler Bozak

Toronto gets:

Vincent Lecavalier
Mason Raymond

Vancouver gets:

James Reimer
Ryan Malone

I'm not sure how the trade would work but it would kind of fit that Lecavalier lands in Toronto when they need a center, Canucks get Malone and another young goalie and Tampa Bay gets a younger center and a goaltender.

Well that's my piece, feel free to rip me apart

- martok2309



So Lecavalier will be the starting goalie and Raymond is the back up?
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 24 @ 2:54 PM ET
So the difference between the 5th overall and the 1st overall selection is Cody Franson OR Luke Schenn? Not even both? Really?
- Timeforsoup


Hard to tell what the value will really be. Schenn would make the most sense as he's a young D that would mature the same time as Hall, Eberle, RNH, etc. He constantly is in the top of the league in hits and blocked shots.

I'm sure EDM would want more than that, so it's a matter of what. If it's Schenn and Franson, I would still do it.

The chance to add both Nash and Galchenyuk in one off season would be phenomenal.
cracka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fomalhaut b
Joined: 11.04.2007

May 24 @ 2:54 PM ET
not chicago.
- Eklund


A blogger who uses his real name on this website says Chicago has a great chance. I believe him more than you.
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

May 24 @ 2:55 PM ET
So Lecavalier will be the starting goalie and Raymond is the back up?
- VANTEL


Naw that's stupid... Leafs go with six skaters all the time.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 24 @ 2:56 PM ET
agreed.
- Mapleleafs_91


NYR: Nash
CBJ: Dubinsky, Erixon, McDonagh or Del Zotto, 1st round pick (not 100% sure would NYR still trade McDonagh after his performance during the playoffs, but regardless a team is gonna have to pay out big time for Nash)

CBJ: 1st round pick...maybe 1st round+
EDM: Moore, Johansen, Nikitin

It's overpayment from CBJ, but whoever snags Nash is overpayment for them, I would suggest EDM consider giving something extra to CBJ to make the deal happen.

Whoever gets Nash is happy as they know what they got and gave up. CBJ gets Yakupov, Galchenyk, Dubinsky, Erixon (he won't come to EDM since he didn't want to be in CGY), McDonagh or Del Zotto, 1st round pick to give up Nash, Johansen, Moore, and Nikitin? Tough tough scenario, but got to pay to play.
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