jesus, I'll be the happiest guy in the world when Luongo gets traded so I can stop hearing about that $hitty goaltender.

Seriously, if he's so damn good, keep him Vancouver. Everybody wins
- Sheppy99

Chances are you will hear about him every day for the next 8 years when he gets traded to Toronto, get used to it!

I'm just saying..

jesus, I'll be the happiest guy in the world when Luongo gets traded so I can stop hearing about that $hitty goaltender.

Seriously, if he's so damn good, keep him Vancouver. Everybody wins
- Sheppy99

Luongo is the new Forsberg.

If Berns is the real deal, he will be traded because he will never get a shot behind a young Quick.........

I'd certainly take a chance on Berns but I also wanna give Scrivens a shot too. He is the MVP in the Ahl right now as well.

The leafs are no where near being a cup contender so taking chances on young cheap goalies is what they need to do. Not over priced over hyped mid 30's goalies
- Sheppy99

Bernier wont get traded until quick signs, im sure. Bernier is solid, and has had a fair amount of chances to take the reins, but quick has outplayed him, nothing against bernier, jq was just better.

Bernier wont get traded until quick signs, im sure. Bernier is solid, and has had a fair amount of chances to take the reins, but quick has outplayed him, nothing against bernier, jq was just better.
- Deadmau55

Definitely an abundance of riches you have in goal......... I'd say your best bet would be to sign quick and give Bernier one more year to show his stuff and up his trade value even more and take a kings ransom next year for him.

Be a lot of teams that would want Bernier with Tampa Bay being #1 on that list........

Chances are you will hear about him every day for the next 8 years when he gets traded to Toronto, get used to it!

I'm just saying..
- CanuckforLife

Luongo is going to be a Canuck next year, Yzerman already came out and said he doesn't want Luongo and Gillis is already hinting he is prepared to go another year with Roberto which means every team he's talked too has told him he isn't getting what he wants for his awful contract. And rightfully so. You can't sign one of the worst contracts in the league and expect to get rewarded for it.

Luongo is going to be a Canuck next year, Yzerman already came out and said he doesn't want Luongo and Gillis is already hinting he is prepared to go another year with Roberto which means every team he's talked too has told him he isn't getting what he wants for his awful contract. And rightfully so. You can't sign one of the worst contracts in the league and expect to get rewarded for it.
- Sheppy99

Mr.Burke and Nonis will take that contract. You'll see.

Luongo is going to be a Canuck next year, Yzerman already came out and said he doesn't want Luongo and Gillis is already hinting he is prepared to go another year with Roberto which means every team he's talked too has told him he isn't getting what he wants for his awful contract. And rightfully so. You can't sign one of the worst contracts in the league and expect to get rewarded for it.
- Sheppy99

No, Yzerman said "My philosophy is I'm trying to find that Hall of Fame goaltender. But good luck trying to do that, it takes time. We'll find that guy through the draft or unrestricted free agency — that guy isn't there at this time." http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=396762

He said that guy isn't in unrestricted free agency or in the draft now. That means there are no ufa's he's interested in signing to be a #1. Through the draft can easily mean a draft day deal.

He gave up Mike Smith. Unless Darren Puppa is making a comeback he'll come calling to Vancouver.

If Berns is the real deal, he will be traded because he will never get a shot behind a young Quick.........

I'd certainly take a chance on Berns but I also wanna give Scrivens a shot too. He is the MVP in the Ahl right now as well.

The leafs are no where near being a cup contender so taking chances on young cheap goalies is what they need to do. Not over priced over hyped mid 30's goalies
- Sheppy99

Can anyone say Monster?

No, Yzerman said "My philosophy is I'm trying to find that Hall of Fame goaltender. But good luck trying to do that, it takes time. We'll find that guy through the draft or unrestricted free agency — that guy isn't there at this time." http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=396762

He said that guy isn't in unrestricted free agency or in the draft now. That means there are no ufa's he's interested in signing to be a #1. Through the draft can easily mean a draft day deal.

He gave up Mike Smith. Unless Darren Puppa is making a comeback he'll come calling to Vancouver.
- therealagent

Yzerman is one of the brilliant hockey minds in hockey. aka not wanting Luongo..........

I heard he has a dart board with Lecavillier's face on it so I doubt he wants another 10 year contract for a goalie who is getting on in years.

Gillis came out and said he's willing to keep Luongo next year, why would he say that? Cause the offers he's getting or lack there of are exactly what many have speculated. A bad contract going back the other way with a mid range prospect.

Again, you shouldn't get rewarded by giving out bad contracts. Unless your name is Glen Sather, unfortunately getting rid of horrid contracts is a tough task

Can anyone say Monster?
- VANTEL

Yeah, and what did we lose in taking a chance on Monster? Nothing.

For all the people who bashed our team last year and said we lacked in pretty much every area, than you would agree we certainly weren't cup contenders so it's not like we lost out on anything. We figured out what we have and we have lots of good young goalies other than Monster.

As GI Joe says.......... knowing is half the battle

Luongo is going to be a Canuck next year, Yzerman already came out and said he doesn't want Luongo and Gillis is already hinting he is prepared to go another year with Roberto which means every team he's talked too has told him he isn't getting what he wants for his awful contract. And rightfully so. You can't sign one of the worst contracts in the league and expect to get rewarded for it.
- Sheppy99

So Vancouver will have 2 quality goalies and Toronto will be looking for a goalie that is reliable. How is that any different from any other year?

excuse my typos tonight, I got a lil carried away testing out my home brews tonight

So Vancouver will have 2 quality goalies and Toronto will be looking for a goalie that is reliable. How is that any different from any other year?
- VANTEL

No, we'll be giving a chance to what is right now the MVP of the AHL in goaltending (scrivens) and a goalie who had a tough sophomore year which most players do (especially after dealing with a concussion) What happens when we take on a terrible 10 year contract and scrivens or Reimer start to outplay the veteran? We'll be in an even worse situation than you. An even older goalie who is riding the pine. No thanks

Our team is no where near being a cup contender so bringing in a contract like that for a goalie who is getting on in years, no thanks.

Yeah, and what did we lose in taking a chance on Monster? Nothing.

For all the people who bashed our team last year and said we lacked in pretty much every area, than you would agree we certainly weren't cup contenders so it's not like we lost out on anything. We figured out what we have and we have lots of good young goalies other than Monster.

As GI Joe says.......... knowing is half the battle
- Sheppy99

Has GI Joe ever hear of a word called Playoffs?

If the last piece of our puzzle was goaltending like say how Philadelphia felt, than yes maybe I would take a chance on a veteran goalie if I thought he would push us over the edge to win a cup but our team is 3-5 years away from being a cup contender if everything under the sun goes well which is probably won't so taking on such a long term risk is irresponsible and ridiculous.

If our team was a cup contender and I thought Luongo was that goalie who could push us over the edge (which I wouldn't feel that way anyways cause I think he's a choker in high pressure situations) than yes, I would take your terrible contract cause winning the cup is all that matters.

Has GI Joe ever hear of a word called Playoffs?
- VANTEL

Gi Joe said making the playoffs and handicapping your team for the next ten years is not worth it. You wouldn't think they guy would know hockey but hey, pretty smart man.

No, we'll be giving a chance to what is right now the MVP of the AHL in goaltending (scrivens) and a goalie who had a tough sophomore year which most players do (especially after dealing with a concussion) What happens when we take on a terrible 10 year contract and scrivens or Reimer start to outplay the veteran? We'll be in an even worse situation than you. An even older goalie who is riding the pine. No thanks

Our team is no where near being a cup contender so bringing in a contract like that for a goalie who is getting on in years, no thanks.
- Sheppy99

So in tree years you will be ready to bring in a rookie goalie

Gi Joe said making the playoffs and handicapping your team for the next ten years is not worth it. You wouldn't think they guy would know hockey but hey, pretty smart man.
- Sheppy99

And yet you gave up two firsts and a second for a one dimensional player

So in tree years you will be ready to bring in a rookie goalie
- VANTEL

If our team progresses quicker than our young goalies do, than yes maybe we will be in the market for a veteran goalie. But our goaltending is on par with the rest of our team so focusing on that position when we have legitimate up and comers is pointless. Let them progress at the rate of the rest of the team. If the team progresses faster than we will cross that bridge when it comes.

Would you put a 600 horsepower engine in a car before you knew the car had a rotten frame or not? God no. You'd wait to find out the status of the frame cause there's no point in having that engine if your frame isn't safe. And you can take that as a compliment to LUongo if you wnat cause it's as much of one as you'll ever get outta me.

And yet you gave up two firsts and a second for a one dimensional player
- VANTEL

Who is 23 years of age and has his whole career ahead of him. Had he been 33 and sucked a$$ in the playoffs numerous years. You could compare the two.

No, we'll be giving a chance to what is right now the MVP of the AHL in goaltending (scrivens) and a goalie who had a tough sophomore year which most players do (especially after dealing with a concussion) What happens when we take on a terrible 10 year contract and scrivens or Reimer start to outplay the veteran? We'll be in an even worse situation than you. An even older goalie who is riding the pine. No thanks

Our team is no where near being a cup contender so bringing in a contract like that for a goalie who is getting on in years, no thanks.
- Sheppy99

Sorry bud. Scrivens is having a great playoffs, and is a good goalie, could be a decent starter one day, but there are a handful of goaltenders in the AHL who are better.

Sorry bud. Scrivens is having a great playoffs, and is a good goalie, could be a decent starter one day, but there are a handful of goaltenders in the AHL who are better.
- Fosco

beauty of the world. We are all entitled to our opinions. Fact is he's young and he's playing fantastic. You're right, he may not be the best goalie in the ahl. But winning in pressure situations in convincing style means a lot as a young goalie.

Definitely it's still a roll of the dice one way or another as everything is in the NHL but I'll take my chances on two young promising goalies in Reimer and Scrivens before I take on a ten year commitment is all I'm saying.

If we had 0 goaltending prospects and our team was farther along in our development and goaltending was our achilles heal. Than I'd potentially consider taking a bad contract. But thankfully that isn't the case

If our team progresses quicker than our young goalies do, than yes maybe we will be in the market for a veteran goalie. But our goaltending is on par with the rest of our team so focusing on that position when we have legitimate up and comers is pointless. Let them progress at the rate of the rest of the team. If the team progresses faster than we will cross that bridge when it comes.

Would you put a 600 horsepower engine in a car before you knew the car had a rotten frame or not? God no. You'd wait to find out the status of the frame cause there's no point in having that engine if your frame isn't safe. And you can take that as a compliment to LUongo if you wnat cause it's as much of one as you'll ever get outta me.
- Sheppy99

I will say this and don't take it the wrong way. Part of what you said here made sense,

As a Vancouver fan I could not care less if Van/Tor made a trade.As you stated TO does not have a lot to offer so if there is no deal it is not like we are missing out on anything.

Secondly as you are probably aware it brings pleasure to Vancouver fans to see the Leafs fail. So seeing them with a quality goalie ,would be hard for us to swallow. As a Canuck fan I have no problem if Lu is our back up for the next two years until some team realizes they want to make the playoffs.

Thirdly if I was you I would read what cap circumvention is,it will help you understand Luongo/Hossa type contracts.

I will say this and don't take it the wrong way. Part of what you said here made sense,

As a Vancouver fan I could not care less if Van/Tor made a trade.As you stated TO does not have a lot to offer so if there is no deal it is not like we are missing out on anything.

Secondly as you are probably aware it brings pleasure to Vancouver fans to see the Leafs fail. So seeing them with a quality goalie ,would be hard for us to swallow. As a Canuck fan I have no problem if Lu is our back up for the next two years until some team realizes they want to make the playoffs.

Thirdly if I was you I would read what cap circumvention is,it will help you understand Luongo/Hossa type contracts.
- VANTEL

Well we'd only offer Komiserek and a second rounder so you are right on that. You aren't missing out on too much. We'll keep our youth and you guys can keep your mid 30's goalie. Everybody wins

Odd situation. Be a comical situation at a garage sale. A person bragging up how great their merchandise is and how impossible it is to live without it and how the other person must take it and the buyer saying god no, I do not want that thing. All the makings of an SNL skit

Yzerman is one of the brilliant hockey minds in hockey. aka not wanting Luongo..........

I heard he has a dart board with Lecavillier's face on it so I doubt he wants another 10 year contract for a goalie who is getting on in years.

Gillis came out and said he's willing to keep Luongo next year, why would he say that? Cause the offers he's getting or lack there of are exactly what many have speculated. A bad contract going back the other way with a mid range prospect.

Again, you shouldn't get rewarded by giving out bad contracts. Unless your name is Glen Sather, unfortunately getting rid of horrid contracts is a tough task
- Sheppy99

One of the brilliant minds. Really?

He inherited a team with stars. Name me one he drafted or signed that makes an impact.

He let Mike Smith go.

He let Steve Downie go (huge error).

He let Bergenheim go (huge error).

He has very little experience and in Detroit would have been far down the depth chart in management.

You won't find a bigger fan of Yzerman the hockey player but as an executive he's a rookie and is unproven.

I guess Feaster is a genius b/c he won a cup. Ask Flames fans if they wish he had not made any changes.