How was Schneider's path easier than Bernier's?

Sorry but I am not seeing your point at all. I can't explain why I disagree any better than I already did.

Why do you think Bernier had the tougher path?
- GoneFullRetard

Because he is still a backup. Talking about the starter job like a finish line, he got there before bernier. Lou didn't play well enough, So Schneider got a shot to take the reins, and he did. JB had that shot and failed. Lou is still an elite goaltender, but cs outplayed him. My point being, CS had an obviously easier path, because he is there now. JB is not.

LA were picked by the hockey insiders to win this year. They woke up in the playoffs and are now doing what was expected of them.

Canucks are a very good regular season team

That is why you are still playing and we have joined the Leafs golfing.
- VANTEL

Sorry, but a team that is one win away from the cup isn't just a good regular season team.

Because he is still a backup. Talking about the starter job like a finish line, he got there before bernier. Lou didn't play well enough, So Schneider got a shot to take the reins, and he did. JB had that shot and failed. Lou is still an elite goaltender, but cs outplayed him. My point being, CS had an obviously easier path, because he is there now. JB is not.
- Deadmau55

You are joking right? If Philly had Lu they would be still playing right now.
We got steamrolled by a good team with great goaltending and finally playing to their potential. Lu is not the reson the Canucks are out.

Sorry, but a team that is one win away from the cup isn't just a good regular season team.
- Deadmau55

We were also one goalpost away from a first round exit.

You are joking right? If Philly had Lu they would be still playing right now.
We got steamrolled by a good team with great goaltending and finally playing to their potential. Lu is not the reson the Canucks are out.
- VANTEL

then why are you trading him.

We were also one goalpost away from a first round exit.
- VANTEL

Well if you want to look at it that way be my guest.

then why are you trading him.
- Deadmau55

Schneider is better. That isn't hard to figure out.Everyone can see that Schneider could be one of the best goalies in the league .

Well if you want to look at it that way be my guest.
- Deadmau55

Canuks had a lot of problems this year starting with a very average D .Goaltending was not our problem.

To CBJ 1st overall and EDM 3rd rounder, To EDM 2nd overall and Johansen. keep it simple and get the deal done

Schneider is better. That isn't hard to figure out.Everyone can see that Schneider could be one of the best goalies in the league .
- VANTEL

Thank you. Thats what im getting at. Obviously, somewhere down the line, lou did not play well, other wise Cory Schneider would be an afterthought. Schneider had an easier path then JB because Schneider is now a starter and Bernier is not. And I dont know how else to explain it. Schneider(god im sick of typing that name) took the job away from an elite goaltender. JB hasn't quite figured out how to do that yet.

Canuks had a lot of problems this year starting with a very average D .Goaltending was not our problem.
- VANTEL

Thats my point. Goaltending was great boom. Lou was awesome. CS was better. obviously, because if he wasn't you wouldnt be trading lou. He reached the finish line before JB. Still a difficult path, just easier then JB

Sorry, I totally disagree. When Schneider came into the league, Lou was just as elite and even more high profile than Quick. He had also been elite for longer than Quick, who's stardom is really just beginning. Hence, why I said Bernier's path is more difficult now, as he's going through what Schneider did starting several years ago.

Agree to disagree, I guess.
- Fosco

Bernier's also three years younger than Schneider so we'll wait three years and see what happens. The Kings could end up in a very similar situation.

Thats my point. Goaltending was great boom. Lou was awesome. CS was better. obviously, because if he wasn't you wouldnt be trading lou. He reached the finish line before JB. Still a difficult path, just easier then JB
- Deadmau55

Vancouvers goaltending stole so many games for us this year maybe 20 pts.If we had a decent D not a bunch of number 3/4 D we could have done some damage. That being said LA deserves what they have won.

Vancouvers goaltending stole so many games for us this year maybe 20 pts.If we had a decent D not a bunch of number 3/4 D we could have done some damage. That being said LA deserves what they have won.
- VANTEL

Thank you for that, and I wasn't trying to knock lou or schneider or the canucks or anything, and im sorry if it came off that way

We were also one goalpost away from a first round exit.
- VANTEL

If the Devils win the Cup, that's the same as the Flyers winning it...In my humble opinion...

If the Devils win the Cup, that's the same as the Flyers winning it...In my humble opinion...
- Flyfreaky

Flyers blew their load on Pitt. I love Hartnell I was so hoping it was you or us to win.

Thank you for that, and I wasn't trying to knock lou or schneider or the canucks or anything, and im sorry if it came off that way
- Deadmau55

Because he is still a backup. Talking about the starter job like a finish line, he got there before bernier. Lou didn't play well enough, So Schneider got a shot to take the reins, and he did. JB had that shot and failed. Lou is still an elite goaltender, but cs outplayed him. My point being, CS had an obviously easier path, because he is there now. JB is not.
- Deadmau55

There really is only one important distinction between our arguements.

You feel Schneider had an easier path.
I believe Schneider had a much more difficult path, but is just simply a better goalie.

Eklund: Rumors: Edmonton/Columbus Talking? Nash? Can Suter Be Bought? Luongo...
- Eklund

FIRST!!!














Any Habs rumours?!?














'nuff said

not THAT bad, but I would mentally prepare for the possibility.
- Eklund

I did not do this for Dion Phaneuf and I wound up with diarreah.

Maybe we see a 3-way deal.

Tampa Bay gets:

Roberto Luongo
Tyler Bozak

Toronto gets:

Vincent Lecavalier
Mason Raymond

Vancouver gets:

James Reimer
Ryan Malone

I'm not sure how the trade would work but it would kind of fit that Lecavalier lands in Toronto when they need a center, Canucks get Malone and another young goalie and Tampa Bay gets a younger center and a goaltender.

Well that's my piece, feel free to rip me apart
- martok2309

I actually dont hate this trade, it makes sense for all 3 teams, but I would have to say take Reimer out as Vancouver has Lack waiting in the wings to be Schneiders back up. I think Van would like a pick to go with Malone.

I could see some variation of this 3 way trade happening with these teams, I like the way you think.

So Lecavalier will be the starting goalie and Raymond is the back up?
- VANTEL

They couldnt be any worse than what they already have
!!

jesus, I'll be the happiest guy in the world when Luongo gets traded so I can stop hearing about that $hitty goaltender.

Seriously, if he's so damn good, keep him Vancouver. Everybody wins

There really is only one important distinction between our arguements.

You feel Schneider had an easier path.
I believe Schneider had a much more difficult path, but is just simply a better goalie.
- GoneFullRetard

Not an argument, just shootin the breeze. I would never begin to tell you Schneider was a worse goalie, he has had more chances, more starts then JB has had, making it easier for him to take the starter job. It is possible for someone to have a difficult path, and still have an easier path then others. Simply put CS is a starter. and JB is not. Somewhere down the line, CS took the job. JB is trying to figure out how to do that, will CS already has figured that out. Still a difficult path. just easier then JB

Not an argument, just shootin the breeze. I would never begin to tell you Schneider was a worse goalie, he has had more chances, more starts then JB has had, making it easier for him to take the starter job. It is possible for someone to have a difficult path, and still have an easier path then others. Simply put CS is a starter. and JB is not. Somewhere down the line, CS took the job. JB is trying to figure out how to do that, will CS already has figured that out. Still a difficult path. just easier then JB
- Deadmau55

If Berns is the real deal, he will be traded because he will never get a shot behind a young Quick.........

I'd certainly take a chance on Berns but I also wanna give Scrivens a shot too. He is the MVP in the Ahl right now as well.

The leafs are no where near being a cup contender so taking chances on young cheap goalies is what they need to do. Not over priced over hyped mid 30's goalies