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LA_Kings6720
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Kings fan since '96 ticket holder since '98 Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.12.2010

May 24 @ 6:34 PM ET
It's so odd to see all of the success and attention, it's like living in bizzaro world. I like it.
- Deadmau55

I love it and I love the hate as well from the fans who dont want to see LA move on.

Its glorious!
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 6:38 PM ET
I love it and I love the hate as well from the fans who dont want to see LA move on.

Its glorious!

- LA_Kings6720




All the LA haters are dumbfounded, saying this was a fluke, and how the refs are on our side. That's why we need to shut them up and do it again next year. I still don't think we are elite status.... yet.
GSDIV
Boston Bruins
Location: glove_was_stuck: Long ways to go. Still have to beat the Montreal Vaneks, MA
Joined: 06.24.2011

May 24 @ 6:47 PM ET
I guess the bruins are in on nash as well.... what could they offer??
- Deadmau55


I start with offering Lucic and go from there. There are only 5 players on the Bruins roster I wouldn't trade if I were the GM: Chara, Bergeron, Rask, Siedenberg, Seguin. I don't know what it would take to include Hamilton in a deal, the Bruins just don't have any other prospects of his caliber in the system.
stoned
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A van down by the river
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 24 @ 6:50 PM ET
Ok...to be totally upfront I did not speak with the ACTUAL landmass on which the beautiful city we call Vancouver now sits. It wasn't like a spirit animal guide/shamanstic thing. I merely talked to a source who works for the Hockey team there. I see how that confused you now.
- Eklund


The food and beverage guy?
TheRussian
San Jose Sharks
Location: Абакан
Joined: 03.24.2011

May 24 @ 7:12 PM ET
All the LA haters are dumbfounded, saying this was a fluke, and how the refs are on our side. That's why we need to shut them up and do it again next year. I still don't think we are elite status.... yet.
- Deadmau55

you guys are to good to be an 8th seed.a full year of carter/brown/kopitar/richards/doughty/quick and you guys win the division
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 7:32 PM ET
you guys are to good to be an 8th seed.a full year of carter/brown/kopitar/richards/doughty/quick and you guys win the division
- TheRussian



Sharks will be there again no worries my northern friend!
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

May 24 @ 7:36 PM ET
Sharks will be there again no worries my northern friend!
- Deadmau55

In 5-6 years after a rebuild
boltsfan48
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Lithia, FL
Joined: 07.08.2009

May 24 @ 7:38 PM ET
the lightning will NEVER trade lecavalier. get that through your head ek. you have no idea what he means to this franchise. i dont even know a lightning team without him. it would be like a funeral here if he left. every fan would be in tears. luongo isnt worth losing him. he will retire a bolt and 4 will forever be in the rafters at the times forum. id rather go after bernier. but tokarski and a 2nd would easily do it for luongo. you are putting his value wayyyyyyy too high.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 7:42 PM ET
the lightning will NEVER trade lecavalier. get that through your head ek. you have no idea what he means to this franchise. i dont even know a lightning team without him. it would be like a funeral here if he left. every fan would be in tears. luongo isnt worth losing him. he will retire a bolt and 4 will forever be in the rafters at the times forum. id rather go after bernier. but tokarski and a 2nd
would easily do it for luongo. you are putting his value wayyyyyyy too high.

- boltsfan48


Bernier eh? I don't think he goes until quick signs.. But what's your offer?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 24 @ 7:44 PM ET
Bernier eh? I don't think he goes until quick signs.. But what's your offer?
- Deadmau55

their 1st round pick(10th overall) and a decent prospect (not a top one)
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 7:45 PM ET
In 5-6 years after a rebuild
- FinAddict



Jeez man, think the sharks are really in that bad of a spot? They had an off year, and could have very easily made it to 3rd. Then who knows. a couple players need to go, but you guys should be ok.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 24 @ 7:45 PM ET
Shut up Whipper
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 7:47 PM ET
their 1st round pick(10th overall) and a decent prospect (not a top one)
- Symba007



I'll keep my mouth shut on that one, don't wana come off as a homer, but I think we could get better then that...
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

May 24 @ 7:51 PM ET
Jeez man, think the sharks are really in that bad of a spot? They had an off year, and could have very easily made it to 3rd. Then who knows. a couple players need to go, but you guys should be ok.
- Deadmau55

Our team is nowhere near a contender, our core is (excluding Pavs and LC) 25+ and we have probably the worst prospect pool in the league.

Yeah, I'd say the Sharks are pretty (frank)ed
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 24 @ 7:53 PM ET
I'll keep my mouth shut on that one, don't wana come off as a homer, but I think we could get better then that...
- Deadmau55

What did Varlamov bring back last year? a 1st and a 2nd
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

May 24 @ 7:54 PM ET
I'll keep my mouth shut on that one, don't wana come off as a homer, but I think we could get better then that...
- Deadmau55


Bernier's not worth a top-10 pick and a prospect...right now. If I were the Kings I would hold onto him and do what Vancouver did with Schneider; let him establish himself as a quality tender in the league before you shop him. Right now, he's worth nothing more than a good prospect, because that's all he is. Let him play, then deal him.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 7:56 PM ET
What did Varlamov bring back last year? a 1st and a 2nd
- Symba007



Different situation. I could very easily go back down through the years and compare trades but that doesn't mean jack. Different team, different players, different situation.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 24 @ 7:58 PM ET
Different situation. I could very easily go back down through the years and compare trades but that doesn't mean jack. Different team, different players, different situation.
- Deadmau55

Halak brought back a prospect drafted in the 1st round and an average prospect.

Seems to be the going price for young good netminders
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 8:00 PM ET
Bernier's not worth a top-10 pick and a prospect...right now. If I were the Kings I would hold onto him and do what Vancouver did with Schneider; let him establish himself as a quality tender in the league before you shop him. Right now, he's worth nothing more than a good prospect, because that's all he is. Let him play, then deal him.
- Michael_Stuart



If Lou played the way quick did, then schneider would be in the same spot bernier is in. Bernier hasn't got a shot unless quick walks, especially with Sutter behind the bench. But every start bernier has had, has been good. When quick wasn't pulling his weight, bernier stepped in and did fine. You under-value him, as I over-value him. Circle of life.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 8:02 PM ET
Halak brought back a prospect drafted in the 1st round and an average prospect.

Seems to be the going price for young good netminders

- Symba007



Your probably right, and that's probably what we get, just think we could get more but eh. As I said earlier, if quick walks, bernier stays.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

May 24 @ 8:06 PM ET
If Lou played the way quick did, then schneider would be in the same spot bernier is in. Bernier hasn't got a shot unless quick walks, especially with Sutter behind the bench. But every start bernier has had, has been good. When quick wasn't pulling his weight, bernier stepped in and did fine. You under-value him, as I over-value him. Circle of life.
- Deadmau55


And if Dwayne Roloson played the way Quick did the Lightning would have been in the playoffs. NHL GMs don't make trades based on all these "ifs" -- Bernier has great potential, but no track record. Bernier's NHL stats are less than impressive to this point (I believe that with time he will improve) and he is undersized. Bernier is going to be a good goaltender, perhaps even a great goaltender, but he isn't worth what you're asking. Jaro Halak, coming off an all-star playoff run, fetched that Canadiens Lars Eller and Ian Schultz. The Habs had a two-goalie system just like you do; it lowers bargaining power. Give Bernier playing time and he'll be worth what you want, but not now.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

May 24 @ 8:10 PM ET
All the LA haters are dumbfounded, saying this was a fluke, and how the refs are on our side. That's why we need to shut them up and do it again next year. I still don't think we are elite status.... yet.
- Deadmau55


You won't be elite status even if you win the cup cause I could see you missing the playoffs altogether next season.

I am not a hater though, I actually wanna see the Kings win the cup. They have a team built for the playoffs with a lot of grit and sandpaper (Canadians) So in my opinion they deserve to win. They've been the best team in these playoffs and have a great mix of guys. Reminds me of the Hurricanes when they won. Just happened to have the right mix at the right time and everybody played at their own level or above it.

I see the kings fighting next year for 6-8th spot again and hey anything can happen once you get into the playoffs.

I don't think you'd want to be labelled an elite team anyways. Teams that dominate in the regular season seem to not have the grit and desire to do anything in the playoffs most of the time anyways.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 8:15 PM ET
And if Dwayne Roloson played the way Quick did the Lightning would have been in the playoffs. NHL GMs don't make trades based on all these "ifs" -- Bernier has great potential, but no track record. Bernier's NHL stats are less than impressive to this point (I believe that with time he will improve) and he is undersized. Bernier is going to be a good goaltender, perhaps even a great goaltender, but he isn't worth what you're asking. Jaro Halak, coming off an all-star playoff run, fetched that Canadiens Lars Eller and Ian Schultz. The Habs had a two-goalie system just like you do; it lowers bargaining power. Give Bernier playing time and he'll be worth what you want, but not now.
- Michael_Stuart


For the record, I never made a bid, that was someone else, and I don't feel like checking who. And I agree with you. As much as it pains me, you are right and I'm wrong. Bernier needs playing time, hasn't gotten it, so you have to go by what you have seen so far, ok I get it.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 24 @ 8:19 PM ET
You won't be elite status even if you win the cup cause I could see you missing the playoffs altogether next season.

I am not a hater though, I actually wanna see the Kings win the cup. They have a team built for the playoffs with a lot of grit and sandpaper (Canadians) So in my opinion they deserve to win. They've been the best team in these playoffs and have a great mix of guys. Reminds me of the Hurricanes when they won. Just happened to have the right mix at the right time and everybody played at their own level or above it.

I see the kings fighting next year for 6-8th spot again and hey anything can happen once you get into the playoffs.

I don't think you'd want to be labelled an elite team anyways. Teams that dominate in the regular season seem to not have the grit and desire to do anything in the playoffs most of the time anyways.

- Sheppy99


That's what I was saying. We can't be a one and done team, we need to go on another run next year, but I disagree, I think we are stronger next year. With gagne coming back, and maybe getting parise, the youth grows, and winning becomes a culture now.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 24 @ 9:07 PM ET
If Lou played the way quick did, then schneider would be in the same spot bernier is in. Bernier hasn't got a shot unless quick walks, especially with Sutter behind the bench. But every start bernier has had, has been good. When quick wasn't pulling his weight, bernier stepped in and did fine. You under-value him, as I over-value him. Circle of life.
- Deadmau55


I can't understand how people forget how dominant Luongo has been in his tenure with Vancouver. Sure, he did not have as good a season as Quick, and even his best seasons may not have been as good as Quick's, this season, but Lou has been far more consistent than Quick.

Other than this year, Lou has been a top5 (even top3 a couple seasons) goalie in the league since he joined Vancouver, and wasn't too shabby while in Fla, either.

Schneider still had to establish himself behind quite an impressive goalie. I wouldn't say he's had an easier path than Bernier, at all.
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