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deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
I think the only reason you are moving down is because you know the guy you like best isn't going to go until later, which would be the case if you think Reinhart or Galchenyuk are the best player. Or if you are getting an absolute hell of a deal, something based around Piternagelo for the 1st.
- Lahey


I find Garth Snow is more conservative with his assets vs Burke in TOR. Burke would love the idea of picking first and select whoever he pleases vs Snow is going to stay the course and just pick at 4th. The more I look at it EDM-TOR day after day, Schenn, 5th overall for EDM 1st overall isn't all that bad. Does TOR really want Yakupov? I think they want Galchenyuk or Grigorenko, but Burke has always states publicly how drafting the best prospect is first priority, not address team immediate needs.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
I find Garth Snow is more conservative with his assets vs Burke in TOR. Burke would love the idea of picking first and select whoever he pleases vs Snow is going to stay the course and just pick at 4th. The more I look at it EDM-TOR day after day, Schenn, 5th overall for EDM 1st overall isn't all that bad. Does TOR really want Yakupov? I think they want Galchenyuk or Grigorenko, but Burke has always states publicly how drafting the best prospect is first priority, not address team immediate needs.
- deks1

I'm thinking by draft time ST should have an idea who is going to pick who and can make a calculated risk in decieding whether or not he should trade down.

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
The question is also would EDM pick another defenseman if they moved down and got a defenseman in return from the trade. It's not like the top 6 is ugly bad, just maybe missing some size. I really can't see NYI trading with EDM, more like TOR. Galchenyuk or Forsberg be nice additions. Adding either can eventually make Gagner, Hemsky, PRV expendable.
- deks1


Im not saying we SHOULD draft down and take a dman neccasarily. its still a gamble and might be a wait regardless.
But
Our defence is kinda ugly bad. Even with another solid top 4 acquisition its still probably just average.

Alot depends on a healthy whitney and petry taking furthur steps. If all these pieces fell into place AND we added another solid top 4, its a ton better.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
I find Garth Snow is more conservative with his assets vs Burke in TOR. Burke would love the idea of picking first and select whoever he pleases vs Snow is going to stay the course and just pick at 4th. The more I look at it EDM-TOR day after day, Schenn, 5th overall for EDM 1st overall isn't all that bad. Does TOR really want Yakupov? I think they want Galchenyuk or Grigorenko, but Burke has always states publicly how drafting the best prospect is first priority, not address team immediate needs.
- deks1


I'd consider it for schenn although I don't like his skating.

I'm curious how much oiler scouts saw galchenyuk last year. I wonder how much they scout for upcoming years. For example Seth jones and Nathan McKinnon. You can steal a player if you scout them early and then they sustain big injuries like Reilly, galchenyuk, and maybe even Brett Connolly from 2010 (still could turn out ok).

I'm hoping they have a good idea what a player like galchenyuk can do and become if they choose to trade down or take yak instead. I'd hate for them to be in a situation to pass on a player due to unfamiliarity.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
Im not saying we SHOULD draft down and take a dman neccasarily as its still a gamble and might be a wait regardless.
But
Our defence is kinda ugly bad. even with another solid top 4 acquisition its still probably just average.

Alot depends on a healthy whitney and petry taking furthur steps. If all these pieces fell into place AND we added another solid top 4, its a ton better.

- hugefemale dog77

At this point average is good enough. We are the 29th place team we can't just expect great defense over night. Unless of course someone demands a trade or the new CBA forces a team to move salary or an owner says (frank) this noise and cuts salary.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 23 @ 3:25 PM ET
At this point average is good enough. We are the 29th place team we can't just expect great defense over night. Unless of course someone demands a trade or the new CBA forces a team to move salary or an owner says (frank) this noise and cuts salary.
- Lahey


Cut salary? I'm on board! Horcoff, Bulin, Belanger....to where?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
At this point average is good enough. We are the 29th place team we can't just expect great defense over night. Unless of course someone demands a trade or the new CBA forces a team to move salary or an owner says (frank) this noise and cuts salary.
- Lahey


Yes.

Its alot better than what we have currently.

Im not talking 'elite', we're far from that.
But with those 2 'ifs' and another guy, we'd could reasonably hope to have a pretty solid group.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 23 @ 3:27 PM ET
I picture this guy naked on my kitchen table, lightly covered in Parmesan, and waiting for me to mount him.

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=11361

- Lahey


I'm not here to judge... I'm not here to judge.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 23 @ 3:28 PM ET
I'm not here to judge... I'm not here to judge.
- laughs2907

Sometimes you scare me when you come up with things. I mean (frank)ing a sheep or a cow is one thing, but this?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
Sometimes you scare me when you come up with things. I mean (frank)ing a sheep or a cow is one thing, but this?
- Lahey


You're the one who said it...
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

May 23 @ 4:08 PM ET
They probably took them away for your own good.
- Lahey

lol.. only got bit once amazingly.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 23 @ 4:10 PM ET
lol.. only got bit once amazingly.
- spitfire187



(frank)ing guy, funny you didn't get a bobcat.

Still married with kids?
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

May 23 @ 4:14 PM ET
At this point average is good enough. We are the 29th place team we can't just expect great defense over night. Unless of course someone demands a trade or the new CBA forces a team to move salary or an owner says (frank) this noise and cuts salary.
- Lahey


Would you be pissed if Tambo drafted Galchenyuk 1st overall?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 23 @ 4:18 PM ET
Would you be pissed if Tambo drafted Galchenyuk 1st overall?
- Starbuck


Cause he isn't Nail Yakupov...

Friday the 13th marathon? I THINK SO!!!
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 23 @ 4:21 PM ET
Would you be pissed if Tambo drafted Galchenyuk 1st overall?
- Starbuck

I don't care who they pick just as long as they think it's the right pick.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 23 @ 4:41 PM ET
I don't care who they pick just as long as they think it's the right pick.
- Lahey

Who's your daddy...
Stu's your daddy!
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 23 @ 4:43 PM ET
Who's your daddy...
Stu's your daddy!

- Ihatebrianburke



Honestly taking someone other than Yakupov and that player turning out to be the better player would take any doubt away from my mind about Stu as a head scout. I'd never question him again. Not that I question him now, I just don't know that he's proved anything just yet.
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

May 23 @ 5:07 PM ET
Cause he isn't Nail Yakupov...

Friday the 13th marathon? I THINK SO!!!

- laughs2907




Jason is my hero.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 23 @ 5:10 PM ET

Jason is my hero.

- spitfire187

Odd choice for hero.
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

May 23 @ 5:13 PM ET


(frank)ing guy, funny you didn't get a bobcat.

Still married with kids?

- Lahey


Separated. She will be back. Always does. Kids are doing goos tho. Thanks for asking.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 23 @ 5:14 PM ET

Jason is my hero.

- spitfire187


Me too I just love his attitude!

I'm watching the first right now, so I have to wait a little while for Jason to make his debut.
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

May 23 @ 5:15 PM ET
Who's your daddy...
Stu's your daddy!

- Ihatebrianburke

I
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 23 @ 5:17 PM ET
Separated. She will be back. Always does. Kids are doing goos tho. Thanks for asking.
- spitfire187

And the injuries?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 23 @ 5:17 PM ET
Me too I just love his attitude!

I'm watching the first right now, so I have to wait a little while for Jason to make his debut.

- laughs2907

You ever pass school?
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

May 23 @ 5:19 PM ET
Me too I just love his attitude!

I'm watching the first right now, so I have to wait a little while for Jason to make his debut.

- laughs2907


I like 3, when he gets the mask. I also like that he can apparently can teleport.
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