What was his problem anyways ? I know he couldn't stay healthy and then he got the illegal substance suspension.

Seems like I remember somewhere that he had drug issues. Any truth to this ?
- Pairo11

http://www.buffalobills.c...3e-46e4-8e1b-9ef8da7e53e5

this leads to believing that he flunked 2 drug tests

he was released from the jets for illness reasons


perhaps depression or some other illness was the "medicine" taken that failed the tests.

Either way, we have not had a legit TE since big Pete and 20 years is long enough

http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Shawn-Nelson-Statement-on-Suspension/8f89be33-c83e-46e4-8e1b-9ef8da7e53e5

this leads to believing that he flunked 2 drug tests

he was released from the jets for illness reasons


perhaps depression or some other illness was the "medicine" taken that failed the tests.

Either way, we have not had a legit TE since big Pete and 20 years is long enough
- homiedclown

I thought Jay Riemersma was pretty good, but point taken.

sabres lack top end talent, at all positions on the ice

they play a soft game and are average at best on the pp

it should surprise nobody that they had 8th place in their grasp with a few games to go and dropped the ball
- homiedclown

^This

I thought Jay Riemersma was pretty good, but point taken.
- Gunner Staal

he had a few good years, did the bills lose him to free agency?

I know he left to play for the steelers and did not do crap there

^This
- Rally_Shots

this sums it up



pommer got out worked along the boards

coho was a tad late

vanek did nothing

Miller lets in a goal that he should stop 19/20 times (out of position)

this sums it up



pommer got out worked along the boards

coho was a tad late

vanek did nothing

Miller lets in a goal that he should stop 19/20 times (out of position)
- homiedclown

Vanek afraid to hit someone
Pommer having no presence along the boards
Coho turning the puck over

I cant wait for the day that Vanek and Pomminville are no longer the best players on our team

this sums it up



pommer got out worked along the boards

coho was a tad late

vanek did nothing

Miller lets in a goal that he should stop 19/20 times (out of position)
- homiedclown

Trade Miller. Trade Vanek.


Yes. ... Yes I did just do that...

this sums it up



pommer got out worked along the boards

coho was a tad late

vanek did nothing

Miller lets in a goal that he should stop 19/20 times (out of position)
- homiedclown

Your asking an awful lot, do you feel shame?

Trade Miller. Trade Vanek.


Yes. ... Yes I did just do that...
- Pairo11

the sabres have some big decisions to make

miller, vanek, leopold, roy, sekera, pommer, staff


I like leopold, it's a numbers game back there
I like pommer's all around play

I could care less on the other 5 guys

Your asking an awful lot, do you feel shame?
- SABRES 89

nope, hungover

I feel great

off to look at buying a new truck today
gm discount equals about 7 grand off a silverado or gmc sierra

Not that I'm expecting them to be able to compete for a Super Bowl but IMO Fitz = weak link.

I'm usually wrong and I hope I'm wrong again..
- Pairo11

The 2006 Bears made it to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman and Brian Griese.... Anything can happen.

nope, hungover

I feel great

off to look at buying a new truck today
gm discount equals about 7 grand off a silverado or gmc sierra
- homiedclown

Nothing better then a Chevy or GMC, I got a GMC and a 70 Camaro.

Speaking of Vanek being unable to play the body or any kind of defense, does anyone remember this gem?

nope, hungover

I feel great

off to look at buying a new truck today
gm discount equals about 7 grand off a silverado or gmc sierra
- homiedclown

Gm... I think your still drunk

Gm... I think your still drunk
- cabin

I have a Silverado. Think my next one will be a Ford.

#16 The Casey
Grilled Chicken, Portabello Mushrooms, Lettuce, Tomato, melted Mozarella and Pesto Mayo on a toasted sub.

I have a Silverado. Think my next one will be a Ford.
- keptupl8

Wait till 2013 models . they are changing the ugly front end .

#16 The Casey
Grilled Chicken, Portabello Mushrooms, Lettuce, Tomato, melted Mozarella and Pesto Mayo on a toasted sub.
- sambarugh

Sounds great Sam. is it lunch time already ?

Sounds great Sam. is it lunch time already ?
- cabin

Since I started this numbers challenge, lunch can't come soon enough. Pretty much the highlight of my day.

You guys been enjoying the camping weather? I'm going up to Watertown this weekend with a few of my buddies from work.

I have a Silverado. Think my next one will be a Ford.
- keptupl8

I've owned two Fords and a Chevy. IMO the Chevy is a much smoother, more comfortable truck. It also has more detail on the interior. Both ran fine IMO.

I've owned the Chevy since '05 and it runs like a champ with little maintenance. My Fords tended to need more TLC. Going forward I'll probably buy whichever truck catches my eye if I get a good deal on it..

Since I started this numbers challenge, lunch can't come soon enough. Pretty much the highlight of my day.

You guys been enjoying the camping weather? I'm going up to Watertown this weekend with a few of my buddies from work.
- sambarugh

Leaving for Hamlin Beach State Park tonight. Coming home Monday.

Beer is on ice and vodka is in the freezer. Also got some Bailey's for my morning coffee...

Since I started this numbers challenge, lunch can't come soon enough. Pretty much the highlight of my day.

You guys been enjoying the camping weather? I'm going up to Watertown this weekend with a few of my buddies from work.
- sambarugh

Missed last weekend but looking forward to leaving friday. Starting to get that concrete poisoning feeling again. need to get in the woods .

Leaving for Hamlin Beach State Park tonight. Coming home Monday.

Beer is on ice and vodka is in the freezer. Also got some Bailey's for my morning coffee...
- Pairo11

Sorta kinda my neck of the woods, have fun, weather should be pretty good albeit hot.

6 or 7 years away? You might as well say 50 or 60.

With cap constraints, free agency, trades, the draft and dumb luck the dynamics of the league change so fast that you really can't say a team is that far away. Sure there are perennial powerhouses. Sure there are the Isles, Leafs and Blue Jackets. But teams can go from nothing to contender fairly quickly.

NJ was #2 in the East 2 years ago, missed the playoffs last year and now they're one game from the cup. The Rags were the 8 seed last year, missed the playoffs the year before.
- keptupl8

Well Kept... I am basing my opinion on Ryan Miller. Until he plays out his career the Sabres will not be contenders.......... That means at least 5 years........ Yes he was fantastic the last 2 1/2 months of the season but he showed how fragile his psyche is after the Lucic hit.... If he was playing with a concussion then shame on the Sabres but if not then his mental weakness was evident.....

Sorta kinda my neck of the woods, have fun, weather should be pretty good albeit hot.
- Gunner Staal

Forecast has isolated thunder storms on Sunday in Watertown. White water rafting and lightning don't mix...